Shooting porn in countries where it is illegal?

[windycityxx]

I've seen a few websites in countries where it is illegal to film and watch, how do they get away with shooting with local girls?

Philippines, Thailand.. and I'm sure a lot more countries?

[ZENRA]

If you look at my paysites that shoot in South Asia, it looks like the productions are small and mainly take place in hotel rooms. That along with keeping a low profile and probably blocking IP addresses from those countries is probably how they do what they do.

[Jigster715]

I think the days of amateurs getting away with it are numbered. At least in SE Asia and E Asia.

China - very illegal. Probably execute you for it.

Points south...bring lots of bribe money and pray you don't fuck the local constabularies daughters.

Blocking IP addresses is half a cure unfortunately. People abroad can join, download then upload to sites you have no control over that cater to those markets where adult is blocked.

The UN is doing its best to kill the AV business in Japan through efforts of NGO's. Uncensored could very well be a thing of the past except in small quantities. Sad really.

A bi-product of populism as exhibited by UK and US' new leadership is not being very friendly to porn. It'll change in a few years most likely. Vice can never be destroyed 100%. After all, we are lowly humans.

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Jigster715

I think the days of amateurs getting away with it are numbered. At least in SE Asia and E Asia.

China - very illegal. Probably execute you for it.

Points south...bring lots of bribe money and pray you don't fuck the local constabularies daughters.

Blocking IP addresses is half a cure unfortunately. People abroad can join, download then upload to sites you have no control over that cater to those markets where adult is blocked.

The UN is doing its best to kill the AV business in Japan through efforts of NGO's. Uncensored could very well be a thing of the past except in small quantities. Sad really.

A bi-product of populism as exhibited by UK and US' new leadership is not being very friendly to porn. It'll change in a few years most likely. Vice can never be destroyed 100%. After all, we are lowly humans.

Gotta go to Columbia!!

[Jigster715]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Gotta go to Columbia!!

I'm with you!

[ZENRA]

Originally Posted by Jigster715

The UN is doing its best to kill the AV business in Japan through efforts of NGO's. Uncensored could very well be a thing of the past except in small quantities. Sad really.

But uncensored Japanese AV distribution has never been legal (from a Japanese standpoint). Uncensored may have hit a big hurdle this week, but I don't think censored at least is going anywhere. The industry has some pretty strong self-regulation along with a police connection (the higher-ups at ethics companies).

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Jigster715

I'm with you!

Johnny clips rolling in rambo style to COLOMBIA

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by windycityxx

I've seen a few websites in countries where it is illegal to film and watch, how do they get away with shooting with local girls?

Philippines, Thailand.. and I'm sure a lot more countries?

I occasionally work with a guy that films and distributes in Saudi Arabia. When I asked how he gets away with it his response is simply "I went there and made some contacts."

And that was my 1000 post

[faxxaff]

Originally Posted by Jigster715

I think the days of amateurs getting away with it are numbered. At least in SE Asia and E Asia.

China - very illegal. Probably execute you for it.

These days they go after the models rather than producers. Numerous models have been fined, put in prison or thrown out of work/school for modeling. That way the number of models available to producers has fallen sharply. It's getting very difficult to recruit any talent at all.

[Jigster715]

Originally Posted by faxxaff

These days they go after the models rather than producers. Numerous models have been fined, put in prison or thrown out of work/school for modeling. That way the number of models available to producers has fallen sharply. It's getting very difficult to recruit any talent at all.

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Through the efforts of Jake Adelstein's (The ass-prick who wrote Tokyo Vice) Lighthouse and the NGO "Human Rights Now" they've managed to get almost 2 dozen models to come forward with claims of being forced/coerced to do AV. The first model came back to Av several times having shot more than 400 movies. Her case was more related to new boyfriend no-likey. The other girls, could very well be true. Probably is true.

This affects the entire business as agencies, soaplands, everyone is under fire. There is no censored and uncensored agency differentiation only models who will and will not shoot uncensored.

There are even calls for studios to relinquish their copyrights after just a few years, meaning the videos go away. Except for pirate sites.

Their is also a call for and some production companies, and some are doing it now to their regret, to have a recap of the shoot and a signing of a new document by the models saying they agree to everything to be shot on the day. This doc was already done before shoot day but the NGO's know that some girls will get cold feet and say fuck it and leave set.

People should be careful of folks who claim all is well or just a bump in the road. If you are planning to head to Japan and try and shoot...think twice. Good chances it won't be a happy ending. Shooting might be ok, maybe. But getting the content out...is a whole other story.

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Jigster715

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and here
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Through the efforts of Jake Adelstein's (The ass-prick who wrote Tokyo Vice) Lighthouse and the NGO "Human Rights Now" they've managed to get almost 2 dozen models to come forward with claims of being forced/coerced to do AV. The first model came back to Av several times having shot more than 400 movies. Her case was more related to new boyfriend no-likey. The other girls, could very well be true. Probably is true.

This affects the entire business as agencies, soaplands, everyone is under fire. There is no censored and uncensored agency differentiation only models who will and will not shoot uncensored.

There are even calls for studios to relinquish their copyrights after just a few years, meaning the videos go away. Except for pirate sites.

Their is also a call for and some production companies, and some are doing it now to their regret, to have a recap of the shoot and a signing of a new document by the models saying they agree to everything to be shot on the day. This doc was already done before shoot day but the NGO's know that some girls will get cold feet and say fuck it and leave set.

People should be careful of folks who claim all is well or just a bump in the road. If you are planning to head to Japan and try and shoot...think twice. Good chances it won't be a happy ending. Shooting might be ok, maybe. But getting the content out...is a whole other story.

lol relax...everyone knows the risk/reward!

[Paul Markham]

Stay in one place and never shoot there. Shoot in random hotel rooms. Never let the girls know who you are or where you live. Avoid having more gear than the average tourist would have.

And move around the country.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Bring big bail and big payoff money -- you may need it. I know a camsite operator that had to payoff a Philippine General to get out of prison (10+ years ago).

[CaptainHowdy]

Why don't you try abiding the law??

[just a punk]

In my country the illegal production of porn for distribution is... illegal Unfortunately nobody knows what does "illegal porn" mean. For example, the pornhub.com site is officially blocked in Russia while Brazzers porn channel is included into packets of major digital TV providers. So the Brazzers site in the Internet is somehow illegal, while their porn channel with almost the same movies on TV is absolutely ok

[MiamiBoyz]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Gotta go to Columbia!!

As I have stated before you can't go wrong with Colombia for sluts and the cheapest whores around the planet.

In FACT, every Colombian woman is either a slut a whore or (and most likely) BOTH!

[NatalieK]

sex is so open here in Spain

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Stay in one place and never shoot there. Shoot in random hotel rooms. Never let the girls know who you are or where you live. Avoid having more gear than the average tourist would have.

And move around the country.

This ^^ and, always cross jurisdictional lines at the last minute. In the US, that means move the shoot to another state or at least county at the last minute, unless the locale is swamped with bigger issues.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Stay in one place and never shoot there. Shoot in random hotel rooms. Never let the girls know who you are or where you live. Avoid having more gear than the average tourist would have.

And move around the country.

if you want them to sign a model release, I guess it will contain your name

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by ZENRA

But uncensored Japanese AV distribution has never been legal (from a Japanese standpoint). Uncensored may have hit a big hurdle this week, but I don't think censored at least is going anywhere. The industry has some pretty strong self-regulation along with a police connection (the higher-ups at ethics companies).

How about shooting uncensored then publishing it outside Japan as an European company? ..on English site with Japanese traffic blocked ? still illegal?

[Jigster715]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

lol relax...everyone knows the risk/reward!

Enjoy Russian sausages?

[Jigster715]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

How about shooting uncensored then publishing it outside Japan as an European company? ..on English site with Japanese traffic blocked ? still illegal?

It will be illegal taking it from the country. On a plane, FEDEX or upload. I avoid risk. Penalty not worth it.
Easier to fly girls out and shoot them elsewhere.

[ZENRA]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

How about shooting uncensored then publishing it outside Japan as an European company? ..on English site with Japanese traffic blocked ? still illegal?

As the Jigster wrote, it's illegal from a Japanese perspective. However, if uncensored porn distribution is legal where your company/server is, then it's legal there. This is how there are uncensored Japanese porn paysites. None are hosted in Japan. The only thing Japan about them is that their content is shot there and stars Japanese people.

[cordoba]

Originally Posted by Jigster715

A bi-product of populism as exhibited by UK and US' new leadership is not being very friendly to porn. It'll change in a few years most likely. Vice can never be destroyed 100%. After all, we are lowly humans.

VR might be a catalyst. If it lives up to the hype it will be 100 times better than any porn we've ever known, within a few years, maybe better than sex for the average Joe (who probably isn't getting great sex in the real world). Certain groups will seek to ban porn with ever more zeal, but maybe it will be harder to do so when it's so damned good.

There are lots of conflicting currents in society meeting head on over the next decades. For example, a whole generation reared on tube porn on tap will be starting to move into positions of power. On the other hand, the influence of Islam will continue to grow in the West.

I'm not sure the new porn conservatism is a result of populism. Porn filters in the UK were supported by both Conservatives and Labour and are actually pretty unpopular to the public it seems. More to do with the hypocritical conservatism of the elites who run us, as well as the power of NGOs and lobby groups.

Is Donald Trump against porn himself? The pussy grabber who made some of his fortune from beauty contests? I mean he is pro Russia but he appointed a hawk as his defence chief. I doubt if he would let him start a war against Putin, and I doubt he would let the religous nuts he's appointed ban porn.

[BestOnlinesex]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

Why don't you try abiding the law??

^^ THIS! ^^
Isn't there enough places where it's legal to shoot?

[cordoba]

Originally Posted by Jigster715

I think the days of amateurs getting away with it are numbered. At least in SE Asia and E Asia.

China - very illegal. Probably execute you for it.

Real shame China still is so anti-porn. What a potential market that would be, and growing every year. Funny thing is they have absolutely no problems with sex toys.

Is it dangerous to even be an affiliate adult webmaster in Russia? I was thinking of spending a month there this year but maybe I should limit it to a weekend.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by cordoba

Real shame China still is so anti-porn. What a potential market that would be, and growing every year. Funny thing is they have absolutely no problems with sex toys.
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The potential *mass* Chinese porn market would be at Chinese price levels.

We currently sell some Chinese customers our cams -- upper end businessmen and government officials (I am assuming), some are from Hong Kong. Wealthy Chinese have western bank accounts with western bank Master Card and VISA

I would love to have 400 Chinese cam performers ...

[cordoba]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

The potential *mass* Chinese porn market would be at Chinese price levels.

We currently sell some Chinese customers our cams -- upper end businessmen and government officials (I am assuming), some are from Hong Kong. Wealthy Chinese have western bank accounts with western bank Master Card and VISA

I would love to have 400 Chinese cam performers ...

It might be decades before the average income in China is up to that of the West, but the fact is China has a population the size of the USA and Europe combined...and then some. I would assume that, for example, there are already more people in China with the incomes to purchase porn than there are in the UK, and the UK market isn't something to be ignored.

Well I wouldn't be surprised at all if government officials in China are fapping away to their memberships of hardcore webcam sites then passing laws to execute Chinese webmasters or to have the homes of thousands of ordinary Chinese raided for doing the same.

[windycityxx]

Just wondering the details on how they are doing it..

Originally Posted by BestOnlinesex

^^ THIS! ^^
Isn't there enough places where it's legal to shoot?

[nikki99]

yes I will explain this to you on a public board like GFY

[Jigster715]

Originally Posted by cordoba

Real shame China still is so anti-porn. What a potential market that would be, and growing every year. Funny thing is they have absolutely no problems with sex toys.

Is it dangerous to even be an affiliate adult webmaster in Russia? I was thinking of spending a month there this year but maybe I should limit it to a weekend.

I agree. the sex toy thing is weird. Maybe because it is a psychical product?

[Jigster715]

Originally Posted by cordoba

VR might be a catalyst. If it lives up to the hype it will be 100 times better than any porn we've ever known, within a few years, maybe better than sex for the average Joe (who probably isn't getting great sex in the real world). Certain groups will seek to ban porn with ever more zeal, but maybe it will be harder to do so when it's so damned good.

There are lots of conflicting currents in society meeting head on over the next decades. For example, a whole generation reared on tube porn on tap will be starting to move into positions of power. On the other hand, the influence of Islam will continue to grow in the West.

I'm not sure the new porn conservatism is a result of populism. Porn filters in the UK were supported by both Conservatives and Labour and are actually pretty unpopular to the public it seems. More to do with the hypocritical conservatism of the elites who run us, as well as the power of NGOs and lobby groups.

Is Donald Trump against porn himself? The pussy grabber who made some of his fortune from beauty contests? I mean he is pro Russia but he appointed a hawk as his defence chief. I doubt if he would let him start a war against Putin, and I doubt he would let the religous nuts he's appointed ban porn.

I think porn will flourish under Trump/

[just a punk]

Speaking about porn... http://www.jamonshop.es/ is now officially blocked in Russia. Do you think I'm kidding?

[windycityxx]

Of course it will, he will make America Great Again!

Originally Posted by Jigster715

I think porn will flourish under Trump/

[Jigster715]

Originally Posted by windycityxx

Of course it will, he will make America Great Again!

Its back to animal sex for Americans.