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Old 01-27-2017, 05:40 PM   #1
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Your Trump is not that stupid

He's going to do the same that my country was doing for years: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...gees.html?_r=0: refugees are not welcome here.
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Refugees should not be welcome here

If you are so concerned with refugees, I am not, then you can help a lot more by resettling them over there
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Not much of a surprise, and an expected disappointment, to the board anti Islamists; the words Islam or Muslim are not to be found in the document -- only the banning of entrance of certain high risk countries.

Also today I read displaced Iraqi persons from the War on ISIS are now only to receive half rations -- who gives a fuck at GFY -- right?

Most #altrepublicans would be banned too

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He's going to do the same that my country was doing for years: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...gees.html?_r=0: refugees are not welcome here.
You fell for the old Executive Order trick

Executive orders are like a speech, it's saying what you want in writing. Things might not happen for months and when they do they often are very watered down.

Trump asks for "extreme vetting" which already happens it takes about 1-2 years of research & getting before/if a refugee is approved.

Trumps executive order on immigration doesn't even stop immigration from any of the 911 bombers countries
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It should be said that this is a leaked DRAFT document and subject to revision.
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and Trump does back step quite a bit...


atm, the wall dilemmaīs actually good for Mexico, Iīve just read that the Mexicans are all cheering for their president, which is not a usual scene.

"Mr. Peņa Nieto?s cancellation of the meeting, a gambit that was widely applauded here by a population that has been clamoring for him to take a forcible stand against Mr. Trump?s provocations."

Usually disliked by many Mexicans...

Hey Trumpīs good for bringing other countries together, uniting other lands & people
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Not much of a surprise, and an expected disappointment, to the board anti Islamists; the words Islam or Muslim are not to be found in the document -- only the banning of entrance of certain high risk countries.
And that is ok. We also don't separate people as Muslims, Christians, Buddhists etc. That's at least anti-constitutional here. But we also have a list of countries the refugees and even legal migrants from are not welcome. And Syria is one of them.
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You fell for the old Executive Order trick

Executive orders are like a speech, it's saying what you want in writing. Things might not happen for months and when they do they often are very watered down.

Trump asks for "extreme vetting" which already happens it takes about 1-2 years of research & getting before/if a refugee is approved.

Trumps executive order on immigration doesn't even stop immigration from any of the 911 bombers countries
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the words Islam or Muslim are not to be found in the document -- only the banning of entrance of certain high risk countries.
As it should be.
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And that is ok. We also don't separate people as Muslims, Christians, Buddhists etc. That's at least anti-constitutional here. But we also have a list of countries the refugees and even legal migrants from are not welcome. And Syria is one of them.
As it should be.
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As is practically every other thing you snowflakes cry about on a daily basis.

Truth be told, you are the only one that surprised me. I never realized how badly Trump would trigger you.
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"we expect you to fight for our mickey mouse politics, stimulate our war economy and not run away from the rubble we leave you in, because we do not like the smell of our own shit"

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Not much of a surprise, and an expected disappointment, to the board anti Islamists; the words Islam or Muslim are not to be found in the document -- only the banning of entrance of certain high risk countries.
FYI: Christians are exempt from the rule on grounds that they are at high risk of religious persecution. So, yes, it is in effect a muslim ban without actually calling it that.

Nobody wants them in the US anyway. The muslims arriving in europe think europeans have too much freedom. What happens when muslims pop out seven kids per family and those kids grow up to have voting rights? They are going to vote according to sharia law.

We here in the US are already dealing with something similar with Mexican anchor children who are now of voting age. They vote according to Mexican ideals, not American. We don't need to deal with that AND the muslim voters in 20 years. The mexicans and muslims will vote the USA into third world status.
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Easy solution would be for the US ( and their NATO buddies ) to stop creating refugees ...


... and am very happy that Saudia Arabia is not on that list ... after all, they are of no risk ....
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We here in the US are already dealing with something similar with Mexican anchor children who are now of voting age. They vote according to Mexican ideals, not American. We don't need to deal with that AND the muslim voters in 20 years. The mexicans and muslims will vote the USA into third world status.
yep...they so perverted california, in 1 generation the state went from red to deep blue. so bad, over 3 million illegals voted for hilary there. & dumb libs like bladewire lap it up & claim hilary won the popular.

not american voters she didnt...she lost to real USA voters not illegal fake voters from mexican takers in california.

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He's going to do the same that my country was doing for years: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...gees.html?_r=0: refugees are not welcome here.
can i ask you what your country is ?

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... and am very happy that Saudia Arabia is not on that list ... after all, they are of no risk ....
That Saudi Arabia is not on that list really makes you wonder. Saudi Arabia is one of the biggest exporters of violent radicalism and conflict in the Middle East. 9/11 was a one time event? The San Bernardino attack is a more recent event. Chechnya nationals from Russia are better? Ask the people that died or lost their legs in the Boston Marathon Bombing.

I mean if you want to group people from countries that are generally hostile to the USA -- Trump was narrow mindlessly selective.
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Monday we will see if a Writ of Habeas Corpus issues ...
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, Petitioners and other members of the proposed class pray that this Court grant the following relief:

(1) Issue a Writ of Habeas Corpus requiring Respondents to release Petitioners and other members of the proposed class forthwith;

(2) Issue an injunction ordering Respondents not to detain any individual solely on the basis of the EO;

(3) Enter a judgment declaring that Respondents? detention of Petitioners and other members of the proposed class is and will be unauthorized by statute and contrary to law;

(4) Award Petitioners and other members of the proposed class reasonable costs and attorney?s fees; and

(5) Grant any other and further relief that this Court may deem fit and proper.

DATED: January 28, 2017

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Respectfully submitted, /s/ Michael J. Wishnie Michael J. Wishnie (MW 1952) Elora Mukherjee Amit Jain, Law Student Intern Natalia Nazarewicz, Law Student Intern My Khanh Ngo, Law Student Intern Yusuf Saei, Law Student Intern
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That Saudi Arabia is not on that list really makes you wonder. Saudi Arabia is one of the biggest exporters of violent radicalism and conflict in the Middle East. 9/11 was a one time event? The San Bernardino attack is a more recent event. Chechnya nationals from Russia are better? Ask the people that died or lost their legs in the Boston Marathon Bombing.
You continue to call the Boston bombers "Chechnya nationals from Russia", but they were not from Russia. Well, the older brother was as Russian as Sergey Brin for example - he has left the country when he was 2 years old or so. The second brother was born in Kazakhstan so he has never even had a Russian citizenship or had no relation to my country. For you those guys were "brave Chechen rebels" as your own CNN and NBC were used to call them during the Russian counter terror military operations in Chechnya (in case if you have a short memory). The US government left them in "to protect from evil Russians" and gave them the US citizenship. So yes man, they were as American as your self. You are not one of Apaches or Comanches, right? All of you have came to America from Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia etc. You are not natives, you are immigrants or sons of immigrants.

And one more thing about the Boston bombers. The older brother has visited Chechnya when was an adult. He was suspected here in relation with radical Islamists and the Russian secret service has reported him to FBI (since he was an American). What your feds did about it? Right, they said they don't give a flying fuck. The result of such an attitude is well known...

You guys always support various scum and you always suffer of it. You so loved Saudis and they have destroyed the WTC in NYC. You supported "Chechen rebels" and they have "thanked" you in Boston. You have raised Taliban and Al Quaeda and they started Jihad against you. You have killed Saddam and there is ISIS now. If you forgot, the second men after Saddam in Iraq was a prime minister and he was Christian. Man there was even a synagogue in Baghdad. Now you support radical Islamists that fight against a secular regime of Assad. What's about Libya? You have killed Gaddafi and the "grateful rebels" ass-raped and killed your ambassador. Are you masochists? Why all the time you are trying to hurt yourself?
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Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Boston bombing suspect, was born in Kyrgyzstan, says minister. Bishek: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the surviving suspect in the deadly bombing of the Boston marathon, was born in Kyrgyzstan but left the country in 2001, a minister said. Apr 23, 2013.

not Kazakhstan -- you are mixing up your stans or trying to lie you way out of a corner.

The USSR is the government that 'owed' you(s).

The Russian Federation owns the USSR's deeds whether you like it or not.

To us Americans all central Asia is Chechen land or something similar to it.
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not Kazakhstan -- you are mixing up your stans or trying to lie you way out of a corner.
I don't try to lie. Kazakhstan or Kyrgyzstan is the same shit to me - some country in Asia which citizens storm Russia to work here illegally for food. If I've made a mistake, it was unintentionally.

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The Third Reich 'owed' the modern Germany. The Great Britain 'owed' the USA. So what?

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The Russian Federation owns the USSR's deeds whether you like it or not.

To us Americans all central Asia is Chechen land or something similar to it.
To us Russians all the US and Canadian citizens are immigrants from Europe, Asia and Africa. And you think you don't own the deeds of your grandpas who has slaughtered the natives during the Great Genocide and who used Africans as slaves to build the country... but we know you do. So what?

And as about your statement that Russians are responsible for all the former Soviet republics. So why your taxpayers pay the salary to Georgian government members? Why do you train and supply their army? Why you are so worried about Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania? Why your troops are deployed there? Aren't they are former Soviet republics too? What about the Ukraine BTW?

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You are asking a wrong person about Putin. During the latest elections Putin has got 63,6% of votes. I was among the rest 36.4% who don't like him as a president. In other words, I'm not a fan of Putin and I don't give a shit about him, his life, his stupid politic and I don't care that others think of him.

As about life in Russia... Come visit Moscow and you'll see that NYC and LA are just boring villages compared to it I've been to the USA (actually to 9 or 10 States + DC) and I currently live in Moscow, so I've seen enough to compare.



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Hope traitor Merkel got some Emperor style words her way
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Wow now usa not like new "freedom fighters on road peace from Chechnya"
Now we talk about neo Nazi in ukraine, but for USA they freedom fighters too(now).
What will be tomorrow no one don't know - they have nuke power plants. We not controlled they, usa too, eu too.
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The Russian Federation owns the USSR's deeds whether you like it or not.
Russian Federation was one of more poor republic USSR.
Because Big Bosses in USSR was Ukrainian - biggest part money they send in ukraine(Stalin in georgia ofcourse).

Brezhnev was born in Kamenskoye (now Kamianske, Ukraine) into a Russian worker's family in 1906. After graduating from the Dniprodzerzhynsk Metallurgical Technicum, he became a metallurgical engineer in the iron and steel industry, in Ukraine.
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Khrushchev was born in the village of Kalinovka in 1894, close to the present-day border between Russia and Ukraine. He was employed as a metalworker in his youth, and during the Russian Civil War was a political commissar. With the help of Lazar Kaganovich, he worked his way up the Soviet hierarchy. He supported Joseph Stalin's purges, and approved thousands of arrests. In 1938, Stalin sent him to govern Ukraine, and he continued the purges there. During what was known in the Soviet Union as the Great Patriotic War (Eastern Front of World War II), Khrushchev was again a commissar, serving as an intermediary between Stalin and his generals. Khrushchev was present at the bloody defense of Stalingrad, a fact he took great pride in throughout his life. After the war, he returned to Ukraine before being recalled to Moscow as one of Stalin's close advisers.
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no he isn`t...

every intelligent person knows not to try to prove themselves through social media, and just to prove themselves.

Making it happen & not spilling the beans, those people are too egotistic
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Wait 'till Trump and Putin get in a spat and Russians are banned from the USA.

Central Asia and southern Russia are hot beds of Islamic terrorist /separatist activity with large Muslim populations -- why doesn't Trump ban any visas or refugees from there?

It's the logical extension of his argument ...

Hezbollah, Hammas, Muslim Brotherhood are not very active in the countries he selected to ban.
Also dual citizenship counts. If you are a dual citizen with Syria and another Western Country you can come to the USA. This whole thing is a Trump cluster fuck. No wonder most of the senior management of the US State Department, both Dem and Rep, quit last week.
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Wait 'till Trump and Putin get in a spat and Russians are banned from the USA.

Central Asia and southern Russia are hot beds of Islamic terrorist /separatist activity with large Muslim populations -- why doesn't Trump ban any visas or refugees from there?

It's the logical extension of his argument ...
I thought Trump and Putin were secretly best friends and Trump works for Russia?

Now Trump and Putin will get into a spat and war will break out? Russia is a hotbed for islamic terrorists? What world do you people live in??
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Never heard of Chechnya or Dagestan you mental midget?
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To us Americans all central Asia is Chechen land or something similar to it.
You do not speak for all Americans. Not all of us make ignorant and stupid assumptions that all countries or lands in a region are the same.
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Mr Sophistication -- 90% of Americans are internationally ignoramuses.

If you are in the other 10% congratulations you can count past potato.
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We keep Eastern Europeans out. Same problems like those brown and black people.
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I thought Trump and Putin were secretly best friends and Trump works for Russia?

Now Trump and Putin will get into a spat and war will break out? Russia is a hotbed for islamic terrorists? What world do you people live in??
they can never be best friends - maybe brickie might think that.

yes there where many people interessted to assist trump - but these are not his friends these are americas enemies.

with brickie and his actions in the first week US lost already so much sympathy in the westren world and it secured that a lot more future islamic terrorists where born.
people who did not act yet will act and they will have an easy game against a country what is internally that splitted as US is now.

result ist that you have to fight with

a. the old terrorists (marokko and tunisia with the MOST terrorists are not on brickieīs list)
b. the new terrorists (what bricky produced in just a week)
c. the rest of the western world what can only shake heads about such dumpness
d. your own american fellows who can see a,b and c and donīt want to go on like that.

with other words: the best situation for all US enemies to destroy america.

donīt overestimate the power of US. america is the country with the highest depts in the world. US owes money to eveyone of this planet and especially to this natirons who fight now. "america first" is a stupid campiagn exept it means "we pay first and then we talk".

tell me WHAT america has what is nowehere else in the world available and tell me WHAT you can produce on such a fair price that people can buy it without countries than china and mexico.
you canīt even produce vegetables on a fair price in US (even WITH illegale foreign workers) because if US would not import that from outsite it would be so expensice that the average american have to have 5 jobs to just get fed up.

and than explain me another thing of your stupid campiagn:

foreigners come to america and steal their jobs and houses?

WHAT jobs are you talking abot ?
do you mean the jobs as taxidrivers? Waste collectors or the jobs as doctors in US hospitals who work cheap enough that you can afford a broken arm?

and WHAT houses do you mean? the houses they can afford to rent (and pay the rent to AMERICANS) because NO AMERICAN want to live there?
or the houses they BUILD and beeing constructed by american companies who give also americans work and food. and believe me - if americans would be able to spend more money on a new house they would even be able to construct them with JUST AMERCIAN WORKERS. for the price you buy a house in USA you do not even get a garage in Germany and yes there are also a few foreign workers in the game because if not you would get a doggy house only.

the us dept-clock is not running that fast because of the rest of the world. it is running so fast because ALL your goverments in the past made dept and dept to make you THINK you are rich.
all of you owns 10 or 15 creditcards and spended the value of the work you are going to do NEXT MONTH already last year. THAT IS YOUR FUCKING PROBLEM. dont blame the world or anybody else for that as yourself.

and now you have brickie as your president - a guy who is known to be the best in making dept. one of the last banks who give him money is "deutsche bank" a corrupt and unpopular bank who was even sued for beeing one of the main responsables of the last economic crisis. deutsche bak is one of the last who give him money (and they estimate his value on under one billion) while morgan stanley and morgan chase do not lend him a penny anymore.

if people like you do not wake up you will walk hand in hand with bricky against the fucking wall you want to build. and this will deifinatly hurt.

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Actually I was skeptical about his orders. The US president has not much power actually and he's just a front man - a poster.
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What a sane European will travel to your always frozen, sad and gloomy hole? I've just imagined a person who has looked at these pictures and said: "wow, these guys definitely know how to party!"











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Actually I was skeptical about his orders. The US president has not much power actually and he's just a front man - a poster.
well they stopped this decrete already by cour because it is against the US constitution.
god thanks that thre eare still some thinking jufges in US. i donīt know what will be after brickie have replaced them for his own mafia.

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What's a 'brickle'?
Ah, you mean: "brick-head"
or the saying from the Jethro Tull song: Thick as a brick

The judiciary in the USA (usually) upholds constitutional law wither they are conservative or liberal.
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Central Asia and southern Russia are hot beds of Islamic terrorist /separatist activity with large Muslim populations -- why doesn't Trump ban any visas or refugees from there?
Because we not have refugees? We take them from Ukraine and from syria to, not terrorists, but soldiers families etc
Usa take terrorists from chechnya who war against us - like Tsarnaev.
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What problems with Eastern Europeans you're have?
They are constantly raping the Norwegian women. You know, the Latvian women and Polish women and Czech women (not even mention the Russian women) are so ugly in comparison to the Norwegian ones, so all the Eastern European rapists go to Norway (God please tell me how to find it on the map)
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Ah, you mean: "brick-head"
or the saying from the Jethro Tull song: Thick as a brick

The judiciary in the USA (usually) upholds constitutional law wither they are conservative or liberal.
no i mean BRICKIE - short for BRICKLAYER because thatīs what he is for me - not a president.

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I was a Mason contractor for years stone, block, brick and cement (in that order)-- Trump has never worked an honest day in his life.
Brick-head is a better moniker ;)
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