Are immigration raids result of Trump policy?

[brassmonkey]

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Advocacy groups say that Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers are rounding up people in large numbers around the country as part of stepped-up enforcement under President Donald Trump.



They say a roundup in Southern California was especially heavy-handed and cite arrests in places such as Atlanta, Chicago, New York, Texas and North Carolina that have rattled immigrants. The government says it's simply enforcing the laws and conducting routine enforcement targeting immigrants in the country illegally with criminal records. Authorities say it's no different than what happened during the Obama years on a regular basis.

The truth lies somewhere in between. Here are some of the facts surrounding what's happening with immigration enforcement: TRUMP VS. OBAMA As a candidate, Donald Trump vowed to take a hard line on immigration. Five days after taking office, he signed a sweeping executive order that made clear that just about any immigrant living in the country illegally could be a priority for deportation, particularly those with outstanding deportation orders. The president's order also said enforcement priorities would include convicted criminals, immigrants who had been arrested for any criminal offense, those who committed fraud, and anyone who may have committed a crime.

Under President Barack Obama, the government focused on immigrants in the country illegally who posed a threat to national security or public safety and recent border crossers. But despite the narrower focus, more than 2 million people were deported during Obama's time in office, including a record of more than 409,000 people in 2012. At one point, he was dubbed the "Deporter in Chief" by his critics.

The record was reached with the help of the Secure Communities program that helped the government identify immigrants in the country illegally who had been arrested. In the latter half of Obama's tenure, deportations plummeted to lows matching those of former President George W. Bush's term.

Immigration officials say they aren't.

David Marin, Immigration and Customs Enforcement's field office director for enforcement and removal operations in greater Los Angeles, said the agency carries out these operations two or three times a year in his region. He says the California operation was in the planning stages "before the administration came out with their current executive orders."

But immigrant rights groups say the actions are harsher than in the past.

Advocates began fielding calls Thursday from immigrants and their lawyers reporting raids at homes and businesses in the greater Los Angeles area. In one instance, agents showed up at the home of a 50-year-old house painter named Manuel Mosqueda in the Los Angeles suburbs, looking to arrest an immigrant who wasn't there. In the process, they spoke with Mosqueda, arrested him and put him on a bus to Mexico - though lawyers were able to halt his deportation and bring him back.

In all, Immigration and Customs Enforcement arrested about 160 people during a five-day sweep in Southern California aimed at immigrants with criminal histories and deportation orders, including a Salvadoran gang member wanted in his country and a Brazilian drug trafficker. Marin acknowledged that five of those arrested would not have met the Obama administration's enforcement priorities.

The agency called it an "enforcement surge" that was no different than enforcement actions carried out in the past and said a "rash of recent reports about purported ICE checkpoints and random sweeps are false, dangerous, and irresponsible." In a statement, the agency said "officers frequently encounter additional suspects who may be in the United States in violation of the federal immigration laws. Those persons will be evaluated on a case by case basis and, when appropriate, arrested by ICE."

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[Bladewire]

They've had warning for over a year! No excuses.

Too early to tell if the raids are a result of Trump, the article you posted said it's not a result of Trump, so....

[Just Alex]

[TCLGirls]

Originally Posted by tjjones

If only we could deport all the faggots, faghags, liberals and keyboard cowards off GFY also then the USA would be a better and safer more enjoyable place.

Come at me bruh, i got my MP5 waiting for you.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by Just Alex

dindu nuffiin

[brassmonkey]

[Paul Markham]

Obama does something and gets praised. Trump steps that up and gets condemned.

You really have to know the elite are after him.

[Matt 26z]

This part of the story is sickening:

"In one instance, agents showed up at the home of a 50-year-old house painter named Manuel Mosqueda in the Los Angeles suburbs, looking to arrest an immigrant who wasn't there. In the process, they spoke with Mosqueda, arrested him and put him on a bus to Mexico - though lawyers were able to halt his deportation and bring him back."

There should be no legal recourse for these illegals to take. If they are here illegally, THEY GO BACK.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Obama does something and gets praised. Trump steps that up and gets condemned.

You really have to know the elite are after him.

Speak in specifics with links, otherwise you're spewing propaganda yet AGAIN

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Obama does something and gets praised. Trump steps that up and gets condemned.

You really have to know the elite are after him.

paul he does not step that up.

i think you will find NOBODY in this forum who speaks for ILLEGALS.
here both parties are on the same position.

but what weaselhead does is something completely else. he does NOT ONLY go against illegals - he goes against all and everybody just to produce numbers.
at the end he will present numbers but no individual drames and for sure not the number of ILLEGAL deportations.
i am pretty sure that hitler also killed a few jews who where really bad.
if someone kills all americans he will also find a huge number of "guilty" in that.

if you make groups guilty you force them into that role. this is a VERY VERY BIG MISTAKE !!

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by thommy

paul he does not step that up.

i think you will find NOBODY in this forum who speaks for ILLEGALS.
here both parties are on the same position.

but what weaselhead does is something completely else. he does NOT ONLY go against illegals - he goes against all and everybody just to produce numbers.
at the end he will present numbers but no individual drames and for sure not the number of ILLEGAL deportations.
i am pretty sure that hitler also killed a few jews who where really bad.
if someone kills all americans he will also find a huge number of "guilty" in that.

if you make groups guilty you force them into that role. this is a VERY VERY BIG MISTAKE !!

what?????

[jelly.ford]

Well.. i don`t think this dictatorship comes with benefits.. but.. who am i to judge trump ?

[thommy]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

what?????

is my english that bad ?

[beerptrol]

Thank god they didn't go after the gang bangers, murderers, rapists and dealers here illegally.

Lets go after the small fish and make sure to get our photo ops! See we got Maria homemaker, while the cholos down the road deal and gangbang

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

Thank god they didn't go after the gang bangers, murderers, rapists and dealers here illegally.

what?? they made a special unit that tracks them down. obama was letting them free.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by thommy

is my english that bad ?

sounds like you want illegals to be safe in america.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

sounds like you want illegals to be safe in america.

He lost me when he started dropping Hitler.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

Thank god they didn't go after the gang bangers, murderers, rapists and dealers here illegally.

Lets go after the small fish and make sure to get our photo ops! See we got Maria homemaker, while the cholos down the road deal and gangbang

David Marin, ICE's field director in the Los Angeles area, said in a conference call with reporters Friday that 75 percent of the approximately 160 people detained in the operation this week had felony convictions; the rest had misdemeanors or were in the U.S. illegally. Officials said Friday night that 37 of those detained in Los Angeles have been deported to Mexico.

They rounded up 160 and 75% were convicted felons and the rest had misdemeanors or were in the U.S. illegally. Yeah, so cuntswaylo got got up in the dragnet and the media ran with that. Why didn't the media focus on the 75% convicted felons they caught?

[Rochard]

Obama deported more illegal aliens than any other president.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Obama deported more illegal aliens than any other president.

COMPLETE HORSE SHIT!

High deportation figures are misleading - LA Times

Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009.

On the other side of the ledger, the number of people deported at or near the border has gone up ? primarily as a result of changing who gets counted in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency's deportation statistics.

Until recent years, most people caught illegally crossing the southern border were simply bused back into Mexico in what officials called "voluntary returns," but which critics derisively termed "catch and release." Those removals, which during the 1990s reached more 1 million a year, were not counted in Immigration and Customs Enforcement's deportation statistics.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

sounds like you want illegals to be safe in america.

would you READ what i wrote ????? or do you just look the pictures ?

i think you will find NOBODY in this forum who speaks for ILLEGALS.
here both parties are on the same position.

so what what ???

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

COMPLETE HORSE SHIT!

High deportation figures are misleading - LA Times

Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009.

On the other side of the ledger, the number of people deported at or near the border has gone up ? primarily as a result of changing who gets counted in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency's deportation statistics.

Until recent years, most people caught illegally crossing the southern border were simply bused back into Mexico in what officials called "voluntary returns," but which critics derisively termed "catch and release." Those removals, which during the 1990s reached more 1 million a year, were not counted in Immigration and Customs Enforcement's deportation statistics.

Sure sure.

Or we could go directly to the source for information....
https://www.ice.gov/removal-statistics/2016

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

COMPLETE HORSE SHIT!

Your tongue is so deep in Trumps mud that the tip of your tongue is tickling your masters prostate. How musty do his balls smell? Does Trumps cum taste bitter or sweet? Guys like you with no political integrity can't admit anything right your opponent does and that's your downfall.

[Just Alex]

We should be deporting every nignog with felony conviction instead of ball busting mexicans.

[Just Alex]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

COMPLETE HORSE SHIT!

High deportation figures are misleading - LA Times

Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009.

On the other side of the ledger, the number of people deported at or near the border has gone up ? primarily as a result of changing who gets counted in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency's deportation statistics.

Until recent years, most people caught illegally crossing the southern border were simply bused back into Mexico in what officials called "voluntary returns," but which critics derisively termed "catch and release." Those removals, which during the 1990s reached more 1 million a year, were not counted in Immigration and Customs Enforcement's deportation statistics.

2000' numbers, dumb ass

U.S. immigrant deportations down in 2014, but still near record high | Pew Research Center

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by thommy

would you READ what i wrote ????? or do you just look the pictures ?



so what what ???

pictures???

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

*illegal immigration raids

[Barry-xlovecam]

Stricter enforcement of select laws.

Thanks Trump and AG Sessions.

It's 'legal'.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Just Alex

2000' numbers, dumb ass

U.S. immigrant deportations down in 2014, but still near record high | Pew Research Center

This is where Republicans in general and Trump supports specifically ignore reality, and cherry pick stats that fits what they want to believe.

This is from Vendizilla's own article:

During the first two years after coming to office, Obama administration officials touted the record-setting deportation figures, hoping that strict enforcement at the border would convince Republicans to come to the negotiating table on immigration reform.

Here is an article by ABC News that says Obama has deported more people than any other president:
Obama Has Deported More People Than Any Other President - ABC News

This is what our country has become. We are now completely divided. The Republicans believe that Hillary Clinton should go to jail for something that just isn't illegal, but sees no reason to look into how the Russian government might be able to blackmail or otherwise influence our current President. Why is it that we had nine investigations into a small scale terrorist attack, but yet Congress is not standing up and speaking with one voice demanding an investigation into this?

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Speak in specifics with links, otherwise you're spewing propaganda yet AGAIN

Try reading the article monkeyman posted

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by baddog

Try reading the article monkeyman posted

It's not in the article he posted, that's why I asked you to post links to proof, which you won't, because you're lying... again

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Just Alex

We should be deporting every nignog with felony conviction instead of ball busting mexican thieves. send the anchor babies with them!

guess you are clueless

[Just Alex]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

guess you are clueless

would rather have hard working mexicans with their us citizen babies than unemployed drug pushing nig thug.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Just Alex

would rather have hard working mexicans with their us citizen babies than unemployed drug pushing nig thug.

no fuking way illegals bring drugs!

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Speak in specifics with links, otherwise you're spewing propaganda yet AGAIN

I was talking about the media.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by thommy

paul he does not step that up.

i think you will find NOBODY in this forum who speaks for ILLEGALS.
here both parties are on the same position.

but what weaselhead does is something completely else. he does NOT ONLY go against illegals - he goes against all and everybody just to produce numbers.
at the end he will present numbers but no individual drames and for sure not the number of ILLEGAL deportations.
i am pretty sure that hitler also killed a few jews who where really bad.
if someone kills all americans he will also find a huge number of "guilty" in that.

if you make groups guilty you force them into that role. this is a VERY VERY BIG MISTAKE !!

All illegqal migrants have broke the law by crossing the border illagally.

Originally Posted by thommy

is my english that bad ?

Yes. Install a grammar and spelling program. Try Grammarly.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Just Alex

would rather have hard working mexicans with their us citizen babies than unemployed drug pushing nig thug.

Not needed, the US has enough citizens already doing that.

The solution is to drop them back just South of the Border Post and let Mexico deal with them. Giving Americans more jobs, prosperity and taxes.

[Paul Markham]

Is she one of the illegals crying over the police doing their job?

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

All illegqal migrants have broke the law by crossing the border illagally.



Yes. Install a grammar and spelling program. Try Grammarly.

hmmm... that might be the reason why some people do not understand my logic :-)
but at least I can fairly communicate in 4 languages while the majority here is just able to understand information written in english

thanks for the tip with Grammarly (it found THREE mistakes in YOUR text above :-)

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by thommy

hmmm... that might be the reason why some people do not understand my logic :-)
but at least I can fairly communicate in 4 languages while the majority here is just able to understand information written in english

thanks for the tip with Grammarly (it found THREE mistakes in YOUR text above :-)

no. your logic is flawed because you are arguing for illegal immigrants while at the same time stating nobody supports them. you do. & so does the liberal civil rights industry, several state governments & sanctuary cities, & the democratic party.

& what good is knowing 4 languages when you suck at the only one that matters.

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by Just Alex

We should be deporting every nignog with felony conviction instead of ball busting mexicans.

We should kick a negro off welfare for every employed illegal immigrant deported.

win/win

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by escorpio

We should kick a negro off welfare for every employed illegal immigrant deported.

win/win

clearly you are in line with Salvador Reza. that is ok asshole. you are blind to the word citizen. people are stealing social security numbers! we need states to adopt the employee sanctions law!! that way illegal aliens will not be dipping in the money anymore. I will be pushing this issues in 2017!! you do know illegals were getting welfare right? sure you do! while the men go work under the table! you know that as well! in the end a bunch of illegals will be deported because they have a court order to be deported and can never come back legally. if they do it's a long prison sentence and deported again.

[King Mark]

We should kick at least one negro and 3 cracker families off welfare for every illegal deported.

[Just Alex]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

clearly you are in line with Salvador Reza. that is ok asshole. you are blind to the word citizen. people are stealing social security numbers! we need states to adopt the employee sanctions law!! that way illegal aliens will not be dipping in the money anymore. I will be pushing this issues in 2017!! you do know illegals were getting welfare right? sure you do! while the men go work under the table! you know that as well! in the end a bunch of illegals will be deported because they have a court order to be deported and can never come back legally. if they do it's a long prison sentence and deported again.

None of illegals use welfare because they do not have valid #SS. And if you want to talk abut their children - they are US citizens. I'd value them 10 times higher of a citizen than any of your EBT consuming asses. And yes, the men work. You don't. 13% of our population compose 25% of welfare recipients. What does it tell you mental handicapped monkey?

[Just Alex]

Originally Posted by escorpio

We should kick a negro off welfare for every employed illegal immigrant deported.

win/win

That would start the riots everywhere. Then we can just shoot them same way Korean store owners did during LA riots. Also win/win

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Dead Eye

We should kick at least one negro and 3 cracker families off welfare for every illegal deported.

believe or not welfare creates government jobs. so you want to harm children? did you know some celebs used welfare b4 they made it big? some of those welfare kids will be doctors lawyers etc... it cracks me up when trying to clean up america some of you attack others!!

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Just Alex

None of illegals use welfare because they do not have valid #SS. And if you want to talk abut their children - they are US citizens. I'd value them 10 times higher of a citizen than any of your EBT consuming asses. And yes, the men work. You don't. 13% of our population compose 25% of welfare recipients. What does it tell you mental handicapped monkey?

i have family in the government! many levels! even a senator. they were getting welfare b4 finger printing. i witnessed it myself! how do you think i know what they do? oh and the dropout rate is over 80% for anchor babies. what do you do for work? has nothing to do with the raids! who is mental? you say racial slurs and anger towards blacks! you are nuts! who is stalking who?

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Sure sure.

Or we could go directly to the source for information....
https://www.ice.gov/removal-statistics/2016

Sometimes I wonder if you can read.

Look at the link you provided, they counted Border removals, before Obama, no one counted those. Which your link doesn't provide dates previous to Obama.

Deportation Numbers Unwrapped | Center for Immigration Studies

Deportations come mostly from border, DHS chief says - Washington Times

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Rochard

This is where Republicans in general and Trump supports specifically ignore reality, and cherry pick stats that fits what they want to believe.

This is from Vendizilla's own article:

During the first two years after coming to office, Obama administration officials touted the record-setting deportation figures, hoping that strict enforcement at the border would convince Republicans to come to the negotiating table on immigration reform.

Which means the Obama Administration fucking lied! They changed the rules about counting returns to include border returns, please read the whole article!

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Sometimes I wonder if you can read.

Look at the link you provided, they counted Border removals, before Obama, no one counted those. Which your link doesn't provide dates previous to Obama.

Deportation Numbers Unwrapped | Center for Immigration Studies

Deportations come mostly from border, DHS chief says - Washington Times

Hard for you to give Obama credit for anything possitive because your conditioned to think he's not American, stole the presidency and destroyed America to the point that Trump needs to Make America Great Again