Business Please tell me why you don't promote AWE :)

[LarsAWE]

Hi everyone,

I'd like to collect some opinions from those of you not promoting AWE, about why you don't, and why you choose to promote others instead. We have a great product, awesome tools, and I dare say good support, yet some of you decide to promote some other sites.

I know there can be many different reasons, but would love it if you took the time to share your reasons.

What are the real reasons? And who do you choose to promote instead?

Thank you in advance,
Lars

[Klen]

A lot of negative threads about AWE. Xlovecam

[CurrentlySober]

I dont promote them because I'm retired, and no longer promote anything

[babeterminal]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

I dont promote them because I'm retired, and no longer promote anything

then why don't you fuck off you shit sniffing cunt

[JuicyBunny]

Negative threads
MLM
Tiered payouts...

Same reasons I avoid crak...

[MrMaxwell]

AWE really pissed me extremely off in several ways very much.
I don't have traffic or matter but I would not fuck much with y'all

Best wishes though I suppose, no hard feelings
I have no IDEA of what may have changed since years ago
To be clear, though, that being said shouldn't necessarily dissuade anyone from promoting their programs as I don't know if AWE is good or bad, these days

Just be sure and do your DD is all I can say
Like with anything these days

[MrMaxwell]

Originally Posted by babeterminal

then why don't you fuck off you shit sniffing cunt

That's a good point you made.
That guy he was always involved with shit at all times, as far as I'm aware.
It's a bad idea and it doesn't make any sense.
I put him on my forum blacklist and now I can't see things he says or writes or posts
I don't see why some people are so obsessed with things most people dislike. Maybe it's an elaborate hoax/ruse and he's making fortunes of money generating all of that attention
One never knows I suppose

[faxxaff]

There are too may ads throwing cookies into the air with popups, popunders, etc. It's very unlikely an affiliate who drives the customer to the site will be credited with the sales. It's a concern with many other programs, too. That's why I don't bother. Just my 2 Cents.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by faxxaff

There are too may ads throwing cookies into the air with popups, popunders, etc. It's very unlikely an affiliate who drives the customer to the site will be credited with the sales. It's a concern with many other programs, too. That's why I don't bother. Just my 2 Cents.

Yeah, almost every big tube have AWE popups, so there is a big chance how tube will be created instead, one of more reasons why is bad idea to send to AWE.

[PornMySex]

No free signups in stats. Support told me years ago it will be done very soon.

[Klen]

On the other hand , almost every cam sponsor have a bad reputation lately , so it's now only about layers, who is screwing webmasters more lol

[brassmonkey]

the generated links are a mess!

[LarsAWE]

Guys, I really appreciate your responsiveness here!

Let me address these concerns one by one:

KlenTelaris - A lot of negative threads about AWE -

Yes, there used to be some negative threads about us, unless I'm mistaken these would have aged significantly now, and shouldn't be relevant any longer. But if you have questions, do not hesitate.

- Yeah, almost every big tube have AWE popups, so there is a big chance how tube will be created instead, one of more reasons why is bad idea to send to AWE.

Please see my comment on this below.

JuicyBunny - Negative threads - see above
MLM - Should we call it an affiliate program? :D
Tiered payouts... - What is it that bothers you about tiered payouts exactly? In my opinion it's an incentive to promote more, and a rewarding system, maybe I'm wrong?


MrMaxwell - I'm sorry you would have gotten pissed off in the past, unfortunately this is something that happens from time to time, as it's hard to always satisfy everyone. However, I can tell you quite a few things have changed since a couple years ago. The most significant changes which you should consider is a change of product owner, a fresh set of affiliate managers, and a systematic improvement of our tools, whitelabels, and general level of support. Ask me anything specific, and I'll address it with pleasure.

faxxaff - There are too may ads throwing cookies into the air with popups, popunders, etc. It's very unlikely an affiliate who drives the customer to the site will be credited with the sales. It's a concern with many other programs, too. That's why I don't bother. Just my 2 Cents.

- An understandable point, indeed our company is known for buying quite a bit of media, as we need to keep the worldwide addiction to our service alive ;) However, in reality, I still have lots of webmasters who signed up last year, who are continuously growing their lifetime revshare member base, period after period. Which tells me, there is still a huge amount of users out there, who will be new to our services, and therefore grant you commissions. If you're not convinced, we also have the whitelabels tracking on a domain basis, meaning you get credited for all sales made on the signup whitelabels.

PornMySex - No free signups in stats. Support told me years ago it will be done very soon.

- We understand the necessity for this, and I'm personally lobbying to implement this. I'll make sure to let everyone know when it's deployed. In the meantime, you should know that I send signup reports to webmasters all the time, it's just a matter of reaching out to me on skype (larsawe1) and be nice to me

brassmonkey - the generated links are a mess!

- You mean the linkcode is too long and ugly? I kind of agree with you, and will see what we can do about this. But is it really a reason for not promoting a program?


Keep em coming guys, please keep it objective and factual, feelings are not important here, business is.

Thank you,

[Spunky]

Was good back in the day, a lot of negatives in the past few years

[CPA-Rush]

examining at the present , and feeling positive .
a newsletter needed .

[AllAboutCams]

I have 2 WL there but dont seem to get any traffic if you have any idea im all ears.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

A lot of negative threads about AWE. Xlovecam

You must be one of the guys who's traffic didn't buy -- yet we do millions of dollars a year.

Some of our affiliates do well sorry you didn't.

[LarsAWE]

@Spunky - It sounds a little vague, I'm not sure what the big negatives would be, although every cam company has its weaknesses of course.

@CPArush - I'm glad you're seeing things brightly! Newsletters are being worked on, first for the brand, and after for the Whitelabels. (so needed, I know!)

@AllAboutCams - Add me on skype (larsawe1) and let's see what can be done. I may have an idea or two for you. Who knows ;)

@Barry - Indeed I would agree with you here, the only way to find out is by trying..

[faxxaff]

Originally Posted by LarsAWE

faxxaff - There are too may ads throwing cookies into the air with popups, popunders, etc. It's very unlikely an affiliate who drives the customer to the site will be credited with the sales. It's a concern with many other programs, too. That's why I don't bother. Just my 2 Cents.

- An understandable point, indeed our company is known for buying quite a bit of media, as we need to keep the worldwide addiction to our service alive ;) However, in reality, I still have lots of webmasters who signed up last year, who are continuously growing their lifetime revshare member base, period after period. Which tells me, there is still a huge amount of users out there, who will be new to our services, and therefore grant you commissions. If you're not convinced, we also have the whitelabels tracking on a domain basis, meaning you get credited for all sales made on the signup whitelabels.

Thanks for commenting. Sad to hear you believe your product "affiliate program" needs no improvement. Why don't you just close the affiliate program and expand the media buying? Your customer base would still be expanding and your expenses would decrease.

[TheDynasty]

Will shoot you a mail now

[Colmike9]

All I see are Live Jasmin pops everywhere. I don't like promoting things that are over-saturated..

[Klen]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

You must be one of the guys who's traffic didn't buy -- yet we do millions of dollars a year.

Some of our affiliates do well sorry you didn't.

Huh ?

[PornMySex]

The problem with livejasmin, streamate or xlovecam on the french market is most the whales consumers already subscribed.

We need to find the new streamate, ie a lot of models online and a good converting website.

[CPA-Rush]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Huh ?

his high horse

[e-god]

Bring back 30-day cookie thing and you will get all the traffic and even more back from affiliates.

Livejasmin is too saturated. It was impossible to convert after you started promos on all major tubes who has all the traffic and 30-day cookie policy was canceled. Of course life-time revshare was great at the start... and it still brings pretty nice income for me each month, but I was making way more money with 30-day cookie.

You guys are asking the wrong question, it should be WHAT IS UNIQUE from others?

[JFK]

Lars on the Job

[Farang]

Got no traffic, that's why.

[Kittens]

Your logo is shitty.

[sarettah]

MATURESCAM

You might want to reconsider that domain name. No matter how many times I look at it I see Mature Scam and not Matures Cam.

Just my

.

[cybermike]

Free signup info would be great
Htlm5 live iframes of popular rooms would be nice

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by sarettah

MATURESCAM

You might want to reconsider that domain name. No matter how many times I look at it I see Mature Scam and not Matures Cam.

Just my

.

thats why germans love hyphens in their domains...

[InfoGuy]

Originally Posted by LarsAWE

What are the real reasons? And who do you choose to promote instead?

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

A lot of negative threads about AWE. Xlovecam

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

You must be one of the guys who's traffic didn't buy -- yet we do millions of dollars a year.

Some of our affiliates do well sorry you didn't.

Barry, you read this wrong. KlenTelaris says he prefers to promote Xlovecam.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Just for the record I read

^^@infoguy

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris View Post
A lot of negative threads about AWE. Xlovecam

as

A lot of negative threads about AWE. Xlovecam --with the . as a , or the word 'and' ... If our business was not mentioned I would have said nothing.

[LizardKing]

I do promote LJ and it does pretty good. It gets outperformed by others though.

[TBFS]

We promote LJ, but our 'free' cams do way better (+- 6* more per person send, revshare based)
might just be my traffic, but it's our reason for not promoting LJ more

[Relic]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

If our business was not mentioned I would have said nothing.

Why so defensive Barry? Chill out.

[LarsAWE]

faxxaff - Thanks for commenting. Sad to hear you believe your product "affiliate program" needs no improvement. Why don't you just close the affiliate program and expand the media buying? Your customer base would still be expanding and your expenses would decrease.

I'm sorry, you lost me here. Not to be rude but did you think the purpose of this thread was exactly?


TheDynasty - Will shoot you a mail now

- Didn't receive anything so far. You can reach me at [email protected].


Colmike7 - All I see are Live Jasmin pops everywhere. I don't like promoting things that are over-saturated..

Alright, fair enough. That is your choice to make. Just don't forget the new whitelabels which are domain based tracked. ex: Live Sex & Live Porn Streaming on Free Live Sex Cams | livesex.com.


PornMySex - The problem with livejasmin, streamate or xlovecam on the french market is most the whales consumers already subscribed. We need to find the new streamate, ie a lot of models online and a good converting website.

Whales come and go, there is no finite list of whales, otherwise we wouldn't be in business. We have about 1800 models online any given time, with high quality feeds in HD and the site converts good, especially if the traffic is targeted. But everyone has their own experience, I realize and accept that.


e-god - Bring back 30-day cookie thing and you will get all the traffic and even more back from affiliates.
Livejasmin is too saturated. It was impossible to convert after you started promos on all major tubes who has all the traffic and 30-day cookie policy was canceled. Of course life-time revshare was great at the start... and it still brings pretty nice income for me each month, but I was making way more money with 30-day cookie.
You guys are asking the wrong question, it should be WHAT IS UNIQUE from others?

Well, the only thing I can say is that it certainly isn't impossible to convert We still have 30 day cookie on PPS if you want! I'm happy you're still earning with us though. Please don't hsitate to get in touch if you would like help with something.


sarettah - MATURESCAM. You might want to reconsider that domain name. No matter how many times I look at it I see Mature Scam and not Matures Cam.

Thanks for the good laugh


cybermike - Free signup info would be great. Htlm5 live iframes of popular rooms would be nice

I can get you free signup info, no probz. Html5 promo tools being deployed in a few weeks!

[Ferus]

Two reasons;

The tons of cash your company have paid to pirates.. Dont try to spin it. It will never go away.

The cookiestuffing

[k33n]

How about SSL for whitelabels??
IMO,this and HTML5 live feeds should be implemented asap

[Andreweb]

I have one WL and I promote my WL on a blog with some traffic I sent somewhere up to 50 hits a day targeted traffic since January and I don't see even one free signup with the same amount of traffic and the mase traffic source I make money and I see daily free sign ups! I always start in this way to test a program those who convert I keep push them and those who don't I just switch to other programs, but I guess is too early for a conclusion!

[MrMaxwell]

I appreciate the response but it sounds like a lot of the same concerns from the old days still exist. I didn't like that it was so leaky in so many ways, and, I was buying traffic managing to convert some of it pretty steadily and then I couldn't get a sale counted when I was about to reach the bonus / payout
Ever again
That's what had made me mad

I think everyone just needs to remember to always keep doing simple ab testing and if you've got can traffic try it with all the cam sponsors you can to see which one pays the most for your traffic
Nothing the fuck else matters

All you need to know is
Who pays me the most $$$
Forget ratios and payout rates and all of it if you ask me
$$$$$$ is what counts I say

[JuicyBunny]

Start a thread seeking advice on why people do not promote you.
Get advice/thoughts including comments you do not like.
Attack affiliates giving said advice.

Sounds like a plan.

[lezinterracial]

Just started to promote you guys. I was hesitant because I see your pop-ups everywhere for years. But I am trying one of your new white labels.

[CPA-Rush]

Originally Posted by Andreweb

I have one WL and I promote my WL on a blog with some traffic I sent somewhere up to 50 hits a day targeted traffic since January and I don't see even one free signup with the same amount of traffic and the mase traffic source I make money and I see daily free sign ups! I always start in this way to test a program those who convert I keep push them and those who don't I just switch to other programs, but I guess is too early for a conclusion!

do u use wl v3 or v4? what the average bounce/session on awe wl and does your traffic stay more on other webcams?

[Andreweb]

Originally Posted by CPA-Rush

do u use wl v3 or v4? what the average bounce/session on awe wl and does your traffic stay more on other webcams?

I use WL4 , the bounce rate is decent pretty similar like on other cam programs but there is no conversion and on other programs I had my first sale after no more than a month ! On AWE after 4 full months not even a tiny sale! Maybe it's to early I dunno what to say. The same traffic is converting very well on other programs !

[VforVendetta]

A big problem of awe is adblock that block all your promo tools

[CPA-Rush]

Originally Posted by Andreweb

I use WL4 , the bounce rate is decent pretty similar like on other cam programs but there is no conversion and on other programs I had my first sale after no more than a month ! On AWE after 4 full months not even a tiny sale! Maybe it's to early I dunno what to say. The same traffic is converting very well on other programs !

could be the buying process ... i hope every sale is counted and there is no problem reporting this . not sure how much money they keep for themselves ? 40-60/40-60 affiliate + model
i can't see free signup completion page , maybe u are tracking button trigger .

[xsabn]

Originally Posted by faxxaff

There are too may ads throwing cookies into the air with popups, popunders, etc. It's very unlikely an affiliate who drives the customer to the site will be credited with the sales. It's a concern with many other programs, too. That's why I don't bother. Just my 2 Cents.

and the promo tools are highly outdated.. actually the old promo tools was better than these new ones

[The Porn Nerd]

I don't promote anyone based in fucking Luxembourg.

[C H R I S]

Can of worms, I would word your questions differently like - what would it take to get you to promote AWE?

2 cents