Why is the board dying?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

how the fuk do u know what "people" need? you are the former owner of a failed biz right?

No. I'm the former owner of a successful business that was in porn for nearly 40 years.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Paul there's nothing in that long post of mine that even hints at keepin most of my business tactics or strategies a secret and I don't need luck selling anything I have 18 years of creating my own content and selling it online my first paysite was in 1999 and it's still active, but thanks for the well wishes

I give info on GFY all the time and I contribute all the time and I'm not gonna nag a poster and say "Hey did you follow my advice?" "Hey you never said thank you" "Hey I see all your domains are dead" etc. etc. Shap and many others and I have had great back and fourths.

GFY could do surfers a favor and put a copy of great business threads in a separate forum or mark them somehow so they don't get lost in the muck, just an idea.

OK. I think by promoting your site you might have more credibility. But you think otherwise. It would at least get you out of the crazies category who keeps posting anti-Trump threads.

I will say your content and sites that you did link us to, to prove you had a large studio, didn't look so great.

[EddyTheDog]

This thread is fast becoming ironic...

[Mickey_]

Too many anons+too much hate+too much nonsense+many moved on from adult+the convenience of fb = current state

[MatureKing]

May be new epoch is coming

[CPA-Rush]

aids

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by MatureKing

May be new epoch is coming

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

No. I'm the former owner of a successful business that was in porn for nearly 40 years.

Cause you are Markham.

[CPA-Rush]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

To the viewer every video he hasn't seen is exclusive, he doesn't give a flying fuck if it's on 1 site or 1,000. To him it's new.

Of course - as long as he HASN'T SEEN it.

Surfers interested in a particular niche are very familiar with all sites in this niche, with girls they offer and scenes with their favorite girl since they spend hours surfing, collecting and jerking off - they are fans and remember which scenes they have already seen. And the smaller niche, the easier to remember scenes already seen.

THEY CAN TELL EXCLUSIVE TO NON EXCLUSIVE - just by looking on the free stuff on tubes shared by different paysites. Seeing the same video on 10 different channels, even if they havent seen it yet, that itself creates 10 competitors.. and makes the content look cheap cause it's everywhere.

Exclusive content does matter a lot, even if it's just another couch fucking scene.

This is not 1999 Paul, we have tubes now.

[CamsEtc]

Originally Posted by Relentless

Too many useless people are allowed to post, and that causes the useful people not to post.

[Nitzer Ebb]

I come here once a week or so. Nothing but political bullshit and one black guy crying. Dead.

[Steve Rupe]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

No. I'm the former owner of a successful business that was in porn for nearly 40 years.

Depends upon the definition of successful.

[hornycash]

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

Depends upon the definition of successful.

Oh look the Steve Rupe the new nic pillar of our community

Go create a business thread asshole or shut the fuck up

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Oh look the Steve Rupe the new nic pillar of our community

Go create a business thread asshole or shut the fuck up

says the boards most active, self important and hypocritical troll.....

[Steve Rupe]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Oh look the Steve Rupe the new nic pillar of our community

Go create a business thread asshole or shut the fuck up

You are one of the worse insulting persons on this board. I do not take orders from you and to my way of thinking you are one of a half dozen people that needs to be banned. You will now, not be put on ignore at this point, but will be ignored by me.

[The Porn Nerd]

Some business still gets done here on GFY:

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...lls-joins.html

I have profited from being a Member of this Forum and hope to continue doing good business here.

As for the rest of you bickering back-and-forth: what the hell else would you do with your time? LOL

Carry on.

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Some business still gets done here on GFY:

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...lls-joins.html

I have profited from being a Member of this Forum and hope to continue doing good business here.

As for the rest of you bickering back-and-forth: what the hell else would you do with your time? LOL

Carry on.

I agree with this! Whether or not the forum has slowed down, another possibility of less site owners, as sadly the UK lost many over the past 5 years.

However, good business is still created from this forum & i´m also pleased to be one of these people PN. Over the past few months I´ve continued to pick up new affiliates & sales from these new affiliates

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

You are one of the worse insulting persons on this board. I do not take orders from you and to my way of thinking you are one of a half dozen people that needs to be banned. You will now, not be put on ignore at this point, but will be ignored by me.

You insulted Paul Markham who's been here for over a decade, and in the industry for decades.

I insulted you back, new nic.

Go make a business thread. You complained about no business threads on GFY, you complain about people in porn posting on GFY.

Oh wait, you're not in the porn business!

So you insult people in the industry here, complain about no business threads, and you're not even in the business. What a negative waste of time. You contribute nothing but complaining and putting down real members. Contribute threads or STFU.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by CPA-Rush

[brassmonkey]

we are talking of of a forum dying and you guys are are attacking each other?????? bunch of tards!

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

we are talking of of a forum dying and you guys are are attacking each other?????? bunch of tards!

It's true.

The only way GFY could die is by suicide.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

we are talking of of a forum dying and you guys are are attacking each other?????? bunch of tards!

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

It's true.

The only way GFY could die is by suicide.

Let us hold hands brothers and pray. Melania, please lead us in prayer...

[Look Chang]

Many GFY threads, including this one, are filled with insults. I don't understand why moderators are willing accomplice with the vulgarity of some members.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Look Chang

Many GFY threads, including this one, are filled with insults. I don't understand why moderators are willing accomplice with the vulgarity of some members.

[Spunky]

It is what it is,take it or leave it. GFY won't die unless it costs to run it. As long as it makes money GFY will always be here.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by NewNick

Cause you are Markham.

My success was based on learning lessons from being in porn, then businesses outside porn and coming in at a different time when one did not need to be a programmer to be a pornographer.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Of course - as long as he HASN'T SEEN it.

Surfers interested in a particular niche are very familiar with all sites in this niche, with girls they offer and scenes with their favorite girl since they spend hours surfing, collecting and jerking off - they are fans and remember which scenes they have already seen. And the smaller niche, the easier to remember scenes already seen.

THEY CAN TELL EXCLUSIVE TO NON EXCLUSIVE - just by looking on the free stuff on tubes shared by different paysites. Seeing the same video on 10 different channels, even if they havent seen it yet, that itself creates 10 competitors.. and makes the content look cheap cause it's everywhere.

Exclusive content does matter a lot, even if it's just another couch fucking scene.

This is not 1999 Paul, we have tubes now.

You have touched on the reason porn is dying in terms of making money. 99% or maybe more of porn consumers don't spend hours looking at it. They find it, jerk off and get on with their lives. It's not a subject that one needs to spend hours looking at. Back in the day, they had to buy it to jerk off, today a 30-minute visit to a Tube and it's all done.

So thinking they're going to be surfing for hours on different tubes and upset because the same scenes are on different tubes is flawed.

Of course, if you spend all day skipping from one tube site to another and expecting to never see the same video twice. Don't judge the whole market by that.

The exception is the micro niche sector, where there are limited production and demand from a few for new material. Sadly the economics rarely support high numbers of production.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

Depends upon the definition of successful.

Always paid the bills, lives a very comfortable life and ended up, owning a home, bill free and enough investments to never worry about money.

But above all, enjoyed most of it.

[loreen]

Originally Posted by BigFurry

And there should be active moderation.

I've always admired GFY's freedom but sometimes too much is too much, indeed.

[Paul Markham]

In my 50 years the business has done a 360 turn and then gone around again.

The consumer, once hooked, is addicted to it. In 1966 they would travel many miles to visit a porn shop or jerk off to lingerie catalogue. Production, distribution and publishing were tough, 25 years ago production, distribution and publishing were still hard and supply limited. The earnings were astronomical.

20 years the Internet became user-friendly for porn. Slow and people selling discs mail order were still able to make a living. The biggest problem was content. Either people couldn't find it or couldn't afford it. Earnings weren't that great.

12 years ago opening a site or pushing traffic was the easiest part of the business and there were 10,000s of people working online from weekend hobbyists to full-timers. Earnings were that great.

Now opening a site and pushing traffic is dead easy. The problem is very few can make a living at it anymore. There's no new traffic that will pay, no new people able to get a foothold and experienced people dropping out. Earnings are abysmal and if one takes Dating out of the "Porn business" there would be far fewer people.

The saddest part is there have never been so many porn consumers.

Debate the numbers but the principle is right. We live in an age where giving stuff away for free is profitable. Just not very profitable for porn. If the Nike, Coco-Cola, Calvin Klien, Ford level of companies start advertising on porn sites, the income will soar again.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

You have touched on the reason porn is dying in terms of making money. 99% or maybe more of porn consumers don't spend hours looking at it. They find it, jerk off and get on with their lives. It's not a subject that one needs to spend hours looking at. Back in the day, they had to buy it to jerk off, today a 30-minute visit to a Tube and it's all done.

So thinking they're going to be surfing for hours on different tubes and upset because the same scenes are on different tubes is flawed.

Of course, if you spend all day skipping from one tube site to another and expecting to never see the same video twice. Don't judge the whole market by that.

The exception is the micro niche sector, where there are limited production and demand from a few for new material. Sadly the economics rarely support high numbers of production.

Paul, I didn't say porn was dying. I said affiliate part of this business was dying.

You clearly doesn't have any experience marketing on tubes. You should check out xhamster to see some of those male profiles .. doubt those perverts with hundreds of favorited+their own videos spend just 30 minutes a day on porn. Sorry dude, you are wrong.

We aren't talking about those who jerk off and go. They wouldn't buy porn anyway.

You claimed surfers won't know a scene is not exclusive as long as they haven't seen it. That's true. But they can easily find out and most likely they will... since they surf porn regularly.

[CaptainHowdy]

I died a little today ...

[CPA-Rush]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

I died a little today ...

I die a little every time I see a great pair of tits I cannot suck on.

Anyway...

[MatureKing]

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Paul, I didn't say porn was dying. I said affiliate part of this business was dying.

I said the business is dieing financially.

You clearly doesn't have any experience marketing on tubes. You should check out xhamster to see some of those male profiles .. doubt those perverts with hundreds of favorited+their own videos spend just 30 minutes a day on porn. Sorry dude, you are wrong.

Hundre3ds won't replace millions.

We aren't talking about those who jerk off and go. They wouldn't buy porn anyway.

They used to when they had to.

You claimed surfers won't know a scene is not exclusive as long as they haven't seen it. That's true. But they can easily find out and most likely they will... since they surf porn regularly.

Of course they will know it if they've seen it. I never said otherwise. They just move onto the next video. Surfing regularly can be once a week. As you say those 100s of guys liking videos isn't going to replace the millions buying videos.

You clearly know nothing about porn, why men use it and thinking they surf for hours and hours just watching porn videos is wrong. 30 minutes, jerk off and get on with doing whatever they were doing. Porn isn't that interesting after people have jerked off.

[JesseQuinn]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

I died a little today ...

La petite mort I assume?

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by MatureKing

and don´t forget lots of dick too

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

and don´t forget lots of dick too

That is a beautiful dick! You & Gary are lucky to play with such specimens

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

That is a beautiful dick! You & Gary are lucky to play with such specimens

That looks like something I saw on Ancient Aliens last night.

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

That is a beautiful dick! You & Gary are lucky to play with such specimens

Gary´s very straight, we play with other girls sometimes, but more so monogamy for him...

how ever, you´re right about being lucky for me to play with this cock, he was a big 10 to 12 inches & yes, I did take a creampie from this stranger on this night´s gloryhole party

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

That looks like something I saw on Ancient Aliens last night.

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

ewww fuck, those images just are not pretty

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Dude I gotta sleep tonight wtf? LOL

[Spunky]

Once they let the gay people in ,it started to go down hill

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

You clearly know nothing about porn, why men use it and thinking they surf for hours and hours just watching porn videos is wrong. 30 minutes, jerk off and get on with doing whatever they were doing. Porn isn't that interesting after people have jerked off.

Well, I have been running a very successful tube campaign for years + I often spend time on tubes jerking off as well.. But you are right, I don't know anything about porn, tubes and surfers. If Paul says porn is dead, then it must be dead, got it.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Spunky

Once they let the gay people in ,it started to go down hill

Not true and your ass loves dick

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Well, I have been running a very successful tube campaign for years + I often spend time on tubes jerking off as well.. But you are right, I don't know anything about porn, tubes and surfers. If Paul says porn is dead, then it must be dead, got it.

That makes you biased in wanting new exclusive content.

Porn isn't dead it's still alive and being viewed by 100s of millions. For free. So how does a site afford shooting new exclusive content?

Or do you think 1-40,000 views is a great conversion ratio that will support producing new exclusive content for all sites?