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06-02-2017, 07:44 PM | #1 |
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Nastydollars move to Adultforce
So I see Nastydollars is now moving over to Adultforce...anyone know what's going to happen to all the Nastydollars promo material (FHGs, content, banners, etc)?
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06-02-2017, 07:53 PM | #2 |
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I really hope their old system continues to work, if not, it'll be the end of an era
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06-02-2017, 08:42 PM | #4 |
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I am promoting babes.com for so long, since the merge, the FHG, banners and everything were removed. So i can't update anything. Adultforce is offering limited promotional materials.
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06-02-2017, 09:12 PM | #6 |
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bump for an answer from AF rep...
What will happen to FHGs, CDNs with hosted content, hosted trailers & hosted movies ? Thanks |
06-02-2017, 10:03 PM | #7 |
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I hope it goes well, but mainly for reasons like this is why I went to cams.
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06-02-2017, 11:06 PM | #8 |
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Babesmoney moved there recently and I had to stop promoting it as there is absolutely no promo content
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06-03-2017, 12:35 AM | #9 |
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the same with Twistys, no FreehostedGalleries
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06-03-2017, 03:46 AM | #10 |
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Such a nice sponsors back in the day...
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06-03-2017, 07:45 AM | #11 |
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06-03-2017, 09:30 AM | #12 | |
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I'm really hoping they actually migrate the promo material for ND. |
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06-03-2017, 10:34 AM | #13 |
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adultforce is a garbage... no promo tools, only links and banners?
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06-03-2017, 03:40 PM | #14 |
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fuck manwin in the ass!! Fuck them right in the fucking ass!!
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06-03-2017, 09:08 PM | #15 |
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They don't give a shit.. if they did they would at least host the clips they use on their tubes for affiliates
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06-03-2017, 09:29 PM | #16 |
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That means more or less sales for other tube owners?
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06-03-2017, 11:51 PM | #17 |
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06-04-2017, 03:33 AM | #18 |
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Damn, they are? AdultForce affiliate support is TERRIBLE. Essentially non-existent. Fuck. If this isn't the death of the adult industry, then I don't know what is.
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06-04-2017, 04:00 AM | #19 |
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With their limited promotional tools, we've terminated promotion.
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06-04-2017, 01:14 PM | #20 |
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That's what I was trying to point out when talking to their affiliate managers. But looks like nobody's really listening...
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06-05-2017, 12:20 AM | #21 |
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There's only one conclusion: they do not need affiliates any more.
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06-05-2017, 12:39 AM | #22 |
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Correction, they do not need affiliates who want everything hosted for free any more.
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06-05-2017, 01:04 AM | #23 |
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correct, they have listed many aff. managers on their site but they are all useless and can be fired. none of them responds.
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06-05-2017, 03:47 AM | #25 |
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congrats to the winners and shit
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06-05-2017, 05:25 AM | #29 |
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Adult Force system sucks. Can't this hundred million dollar company hire one guy for $70,000 per year and all he does it add content and other things we want?
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06-05-2017, 04:21 PM | #32 |
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true words
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06-05-2017, 04:44 PM | #33 |
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Affiliates are the most important aspect of your business, unfortunately this idea is dead for long time now. The only reason we remain with sponsors is cause we still have some sort of hope, seen the name CherryPimp, classic good program, we will move most to them also and to other names that have proven to remain stable.
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the Knife always cuts on both sides, affiliates are seen as profiteers of the business, we are the little fish that swim with the sharks. And to be honest, a lot of program owners feel proud to be seen as a shark
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06-05-2017, 05:00 PM | #35 |
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Looks like the gravy train of the sponsor giving you 50% profits for life & doing EVERYTHING but putting up the fucking link for you is over
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06-05-2017, 05:16 PM | #36 |
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Some of us actually do work. You should learn to not tar everyone with the same brush as you ultimately end up sounding like an ill-informed troll.
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Some people have Fuck You money. Well it seems in their eyes, they have Fuck You traffic and brand awareness. To them, the cost to provide and support affiliates, plus pay 50% or PPS is just not worth it to them. They have obviously made the choice that they save money by working with a few whale affiliates that they have, and don't give a piss about anyone else. Been obvious for a very long time that MindGeeK has been going that way.
We don't share that mindset at all.
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06-05-2017, 06:28 PM | #38 |
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This is a lost marketing opportunity or a culling of the herd -- without the real numbers I have no idea. If your traffic is valuable (will convert) find a new home for it and move on -- lessons learned. Use a dynamic linking schema -- JavaScript/AJAX perhaps with a server side database that you can switch over in a heartbeat.
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they got rid of most of the promo materials because they don't work any more and they're a waste of everyone's time.
if mindgeek actually wants your traffic, they contact you directly and offer you custom banner codes like the ones on pornhub, and they tell you that you can take videos directly off of their paysites (brazzers, etc) and cut them down to 5-10 minutes and put them on your own sites...as long as you show their custom banners. Point is, their whole business model revolves around getting cut-down videos from brazzers/etc on lots of different tube sites (even competitors like xhamster, xvideos) and showing their own banners (for brazzers/etc) next to them. So if you're not a tube owner with lots of traffic, they don't care about you anymore. |
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For most affiliate programs these days probably 90% of their sales come from ad networks, media buyers, etc. who don't need any free promo tools, just good ads.
For most of them it's not worth spending all the time on creating all the promo tools and having support for the 1000s of 'small accounts'. They rather put that time and money into creating the best banners for the networks and their big affiliates and also things like backend development, billing flow optimizations, machine learning, etc. as that makes them more money. It's a business, the old school affiliate model is pretty dead so I can imagine they don't want to put more time and money into that but focus on the things that work instead. As others mentioned there are still some programs left that get most of their sales from affiliates and still update their promo tools like clockwork so the best is to switch to those kind of programs if you still need those. |
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Heh, I won't waste any more time on this. I'm sure you have more Trump threads and assorted "headlines" threads to post. Carry on. I have work to do
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06-06-2017, 04:30 PM | #45 |
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Do you think decreasing affiliate support and webmaster tools is an improvement for an affiliate program?
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There are plenty of programs out there, like ours, that still feel the support costs are lower than the revenues earned by catering to these affiliates.
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06-06-2017, 11:10 PM | #47 |
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I am really contemplating of moving to another "babes" program.
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Same here actually. Just the day Babes.com moved to the AdultForce, the new sales gone to almost none. The old rebills are still good but there are really few new ones. I talked to them about it and they ensured me that nothing has changed in their funnel and billing. But it doesn't really look like that.
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If AF is failing your specific affiliate needs, there are certainly alternatives.
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