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Old 07-18-2017, 09:32 AM   #101
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The Democrat Party stands for illegal immigrants. welfare, food stamps, bad trade deals, horrible foreign policy, and taking away people's right to own a gun.
This is not true at all.

Under Obama we deported more illegal immigrants than ever before. We need to reduce people on welfare and food stamps; This is common sense. What you are calling "horrible foreign policy" resulted in removing us from two never ending wars and the defeat of ISIS without spilling American blood.

As for firearms, we need some common sense laws - I own firearms myself, but I do not believe everyone should own firearms.
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Now we discover there was an eight person in this secret meeting?

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This is not true at all.

Under Obama we deported more illegal immigrants than ever before.
Another bullshit liberal lie that gets told and told again with no context.

Illegal immigrants started flooding across the borders in record numbers - particularly unaccompanied minors peaking at over 10,000 per day, due to his idiotic immigration policies, jackass and refusal to enforce immigration law.

The fact that he deported FAR LESS than he encouraged to flood across the border does not make him a champion against illegal immigration.

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Old 07-18-2017, 10:52 AM   #104
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Now we discover there was an eight person in this secret meeting?

Damn man...there's no talking any sense into you.

"we" and giant fonts...look at the image of yourself that you are putting out on GFY. This can't be good for you.
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This is not true at all.

Under Obama we deported more illegal immigrants than ever before.
I didn't know this lie was still being told.


High deportation figures are misleading - LA Times
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Now we discover there was an eight person in this secret meeting?


And wait for it.... He's a Russian money launderer and is on video with Donald Trump in Moscow at the Miss universe pageant. He created 2,000 businesses in Delaware and opened bank accounts for them. Now investigators are tracking where $800 million from Russia was disbursed from his dealings.

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"According to a New York Times article in 2000, Kaveladze, who immigrated to the U.S. in 1991 from Russia, once set up over 2,000 corporations for Russian brokers in Delaware and then opened bank accounts for them."

The report was part of a Congressional inquiry which was aimed to find out how easy it is for foreigners to hide their identities in companies and launder money through American banks.

The article said that over $800 million was wired from foreign countries to 236 bank accounts that Kaveladze opened for Russian clients through Citibank in the name of his company, International Business Creations. That money was then sent back to overseas accounts, government officials concluded.

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And wait for it.... He's a Russian money launderer and is on video with Donald Trump in Moscow at the Miss universe pageant. He created 2,000 businesses in Delaware and opened bank accounts for them. Now investigators are tracking where $800 million from Russia was disbursed from his dealings.

Money laundering:

"According to a New York Times article in 2000, Kaveladze, who immigrated to the U.S. in 1991 from Russia, once set up over 2,000 corporations for Russian brokers in Delaware and then opened bank accounts for them."

The report was part of a Congressional inquiry which was aimed to find out how easy it is for foreigners to hide their identities in companies and launder money through American banks.

The article said that over $800 million was wired from foreign countries to 236 bank accounts that Kaveladze opened for Russian clients through Citibank in the name of his company, International Business Creations. That money was then sent back to overseas accounts, government officials concluded.

https://heavy.com/news/2017/07/ike-k...ting-agalarov/
He is not a money launderer, he not enough brain for it. He just mafia - kidnapping, killing people, racket, drugs, prostitution and they linked with the prosecutor in Moscow. Money launderer it is Trump
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He is not a money launderer, he not enough brain for it. He just mafia - kidnapping, killing people, racket, drugs, prostitution and they linked with the prosecutor in Moscow. Money launderer it is Trump
Right he opened 2,000 business & bank accounts and put $800 million into them not to launder the money.
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Right he opened 2,000 business & bank accounts and put $800 million into them not to launder the money.

yes this is a common totally-not-money-laundering technique...you see he could not fit all the money in one bank account so he had to open 2000...they were out of bigger bank accounts that day but had a special deal on bulk...totally legit
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yes this is a common totally-not-money-laundering technique...you see he could not fit all the money in one bank account so he had to open 2000...they were out of bigger bank accounts that day but had a special deal on bulk...totally legit
Right like your 1 time Gay sex makes you Gay for life not just experimenting one time even if you have a girlfriend?
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A lawyer, a spy, a mob boss, and a money launder walk into a bar. The bartender says: "you guys must be here to talk about adoption."
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Now we find out there was a secret meeting with Putin. The lies just never stop.
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Now we find out there was a secret meeting with Putin. The lies just never stop.
G20 summit was possibly a good opportunity to discuss with putin the next elections in USA :-)

the two want to relieve all the stressed voters in the USA and take away the heavy burden of the decision.
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Right he opened 2,000 business & bank accounts and put $800 million into them not to launder the money.
400 000$ in one bank account) not so big as 800 000 000$ in one)
But for laundering the money it is most stupid transactions and actions.
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A lawyer, a spy-traitor, a mob boss, and a money launder walk into a bar. The bartender says: "you guys must be here to talk about adoption."
+ Moscow prosecutor which sell them indulgences. I had written it before - they not interest adoption, children, countries - only money. It is Moscow's ethnic criminal band.

Aras Iskenderovich Agalarov - Azerbaijani-Russian oligarch
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ok, that was funny
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Peter W. Smith, GOP operative who sought Clinton's emails from Russian hackers, committed suicide, records show

Republican donor and operative from Chicago's North Shore who said he had tried to obtain Hillary Clinton's missing emails from Russian hackers killed himself in a Minnesota hotel room days after talking to The Wall Street Journal about his efforts, public records show.

In mid-May, in a room at a Rochester hotel used almost exclusively by Mayo Clinic patients and relatives, Peter W. Smith, 81, left a carefully prepared file of documents, including a statement police called a suicide note in which he said he was in ill health and a life insurance policy was expiring.
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^^ red-hat nutter commits suicide.
move on, nothing to see
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So eight people at a meeting that wasn't important, two of them were translators, even though everyone in the fucking room spoke English.

LOL.
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So eight people at a meeting that wasn't important, two of them were translators, even though everyone in the fucking room spoke English.

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To re-cap Paul the peeps at the meeting are very busy guys in the middle of a high powered presidential campaign who dropped everything to meet a Russian national who had damaging info on Clinton. The info promised was part of the Russian Govt's support for the trump campaign.
Exactly. Where is the info they got?
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this question i have to ask you if you think that the TRY of a crime is legal we can give up to discuss because you live on a planet what have not the same rules as planet earth.



so enough to let them influence the policy of a country?

my dear god what´s going on in your head paul. take your pills.
Where have they influenced US policy?
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it does not make sense, nick. paul has now completely switched off the reality. i think we should really worry about him meanwhile.
Where is the damaging info?
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No, they don't keep it a secret. They call the FBI. Which is the first thing the Trump campaign should have done.

If I remember correctly from a news report last week, this happened to both Nixon and Kennedy. In both cases they called the FBI. It's the ONLY course of action in something like this.
Agree 100%. But that's not illegal, it's just prudent given all the shit this has stirred up. It would have saved time.
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This is one of the things I just do not understand.... During Obama's two terms as President the Republicans were screaming how horrible the economy was. Yes, it was horrible when it first started, but that wasn't his fault, and unemployment was cut in half while he was in office. When Obama left office the unemployment rate was in the 4% range and still they complained. Now that Trump is in office, unemployment is still in the 4% range, and suddenly Republicans are all okay with the economy as if suddenly things got better. The ONLY thing that changed is we have a new president in office who has signed no bills about the economy at all....

This is what's wrong - The economy is either good or bad. A 4% unemployment rate, no matter who is president, is good. The Republicans thought the economy was bad at the end of Obama's term, but now think it's great that a Republican in office although nothing has changed.

I'm tired of the bullshit.
Obama did OK on the economy and fucking awful on the lives of everyday Americans.
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It's because the Republican party is far out of touch with reality.

The entire time running up to the campaign and during the campaign, they tried to paint Hillary as a "crook". They had over a dozen investigations, and not one of them turned up anything. This was nothing more than a witch hunt. We knew in both the email server case and with Benghazi that there was no wrong doing at all, yet they dragged out investigations for how long? Two years? Three years?

Right now we now for a fact that a foreign government has meddled in our election process. The entire situation with how Trump won was odd and ALL of the polls were proved wrong. We have a pro Russian president with obvious and very long term connections to Russia. It's only common sense that we investigate. In fact, Trump himself should be demanding a full investigation. Just the fact that he isn't demanding this indicates something is wrong. Then we have obvious attempts to obstruct justice - Trump fired the man investigating him. Now ever time we turn around there are more lies, and more information being hidden.

We are having an investigation. We are going to find out the truth. When our government investigates at this level, it's massive. They will go over every transaction, every business deal ALL of the Trump people in the past decade. God only knows what they will find.

Now we have the Republican party trying to kill our healthcare. We have healthcare, it's working. We need to fix what we have, not replace it. NO ONE wants to replace it except for a handful of Republicans in Congress. The general public does not want this replaced.

The Republicans can stop the infighting any time they want. They can start by demanding and running a bi-partisan investigation into what happened, and then they can invite the democrats in on the planning to replace healthcare instead of shutting them out.
My point was about the decades that Americ has been in decline and you keep going back to Obama. But America is still in decline. I do agree that the Republicans are also to blame. But please do wake up to the real problem.
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Exactly. Where is the info they got?
It was all of the emails that wikileaks dripped out throughout the campaign.

The Trump boys did not need to touch it, but if you look at the time lines they virtually announced every single leak because they knew what was coming.

It gave Donnie the confidence to repeatedly call Hillary a criminal and chant "lock her up" because they knew exactly when and what was about to be released. Assange was more than happy to play along because it stroked his rapist ego to know that he was wealding real power for once.

Now have I got this wrong or is Donnie Jr supposed to be running the family firm whilst Donnie Sr runs the world ?
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That's a huge load of right wing bullshit you're spewing there.
Hit him with the facts.

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It was all of the emails that wikileaks dripped out throughout the campaign.

The Trump boys did not need to touch it, but if you look at the time lines they virtually announced every single leak because they knew what was coming.

It gave Donnie the confidence to repeatedly call Hillary a criminal and chant "lock her up" because they knew exactly when and what was about to be released. Assange was more than happy to play along because it stroked his rapist ego to know that he was wealding real power for once.

Now have I got this wrong or is Donnie Jr supposed to be running the family firm whilst Donnie Sr runs the world ?
So you would prefer the emails stay secret. So much for freedom of speech.
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My point was about the decades that Americ has been in decline and you keep going back to Obama. But America is still in decline. I do agree that the Republicans are also to blame. But please do wake up to the real problem.
America isn't in decline at all. AT ALL.

We got the wind knocked out of us with this recession during the end of the Bush administration, and took everyone down with us. Yet here we are still standing tall, still a super power.
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Where is the damaging info?
go to bed paul - close your eyes and let the world going on.
you are not in the condition anymore to understand what is going on around you.

you had enough time in your live to getting wiser as you are.
now it is too late for you.
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You know this how?
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You know this how?
He's been proven wrong on this over and over but he keeps repeating the same thing.

I posted the decreased unemployment rate by Obama (via graphs) I posted the increase in the stock market to record highs under Obama (via graphs). I informed him that 3 million more people voted for Clinton. But Paul Markham keeps ignoring those facts, acting like Trump has a mandate, and saying that the lives of Americans were just horrible until Trump. It's like he's not obsorbing facts on purpose to push an agenda not based on facts..
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Obama did OK on the economy and fucking awful on the lives of everyday Americans.
This might just be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

When Obama took office, unemployment was at 10% - and rising. It was stunning. I have twenty houses on my street, and exactly half of them were vacant. People had walked away from their houses because they couldn't afford the mortgage. We had multiple housing complexes here in town that had just stopped building. They started to build a restaurant two blocks from my house, and they just stopped leaving an empty shell - walls and a roof, but no windows or doors and nothing inside. They built parking lots for shopping complexes they never finished.

Obama did "okay" on the economy? Holy fucking shit Paul - Obama cut the unemployment rate by more than half.

He didn't fuck up anything. Not a single scandal. And while he did it, he created healthcare - I pay $200 a month for complete coverage for the three of us.

I wasn't a fan of Obama when he took office, and I still had my doubts in the second term, but now... Holy shit, that man worked miracles.
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So you would prefer the emails stay secret. So much for freedom of speech.
What are you talkinq about ?

Are your emails public property ?

What has freedom of speech got to do with foreign powers hacking political parties email servers in order to try and influence elections ?

Would I prefer the emails to stay secret ? Tell me Paul what is it you think was in the emails ?
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He's been proven wrong on this over and over but he keeps repeating the same thing.

I posted the decreased unemployment rate by Obama (via graphs) I posted the increase in the stock market to record highs under Obama (via graphs). I informed him that 3 million more people voted for Clinton. But Paul Markham keeps ignoring those facts, acting like Trump has a mandate, and saying that the lives of Americans were just horrible until Trump. It's like he's not obsorbing facts on purpose to push an agenda not based on facts..
It's why I don't waste my time using facts or logic on these clowns, it's like explaining physics to a 10 year old who only speaks chinese. A complete waste of time.
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Next we'll find out the ninth person at the meeting was a fireman. Or a veterinarian.
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Next we'll find out the ninth person at the meeting was a fireman. Or a veterinarian.
We'll find out that Kushner was texting Trump, who was the next floor up, during the meeting.
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America isn't in decline at all. AT ALL.

We got the wind knocked out of us with this recession during the end of the Bush administration, and took everyone down with us. Yet here we are still standing tall, still a super power.
So why is China about to over take you? Why are more and more US citizens living in poverty, homelessness is up, low wages are up, etc?

Why does this graph not show an increase in the living standards of the average American?

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You know this how?
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He's been proven wrong on this over and over but he keeps repeating the same thing.

I posted the decreased unemployment rate by Obama (via graphs) I posted the increase in the stock market to record highs under Obama (via graphs). I informed him that 3 million more people voted for Clinton. But Paul Markham keeps ignoring those facts, acting like Trump has a mandate, and saying that the lives of Americans were just horrible until Trump. It's like he's not obsorbing facts on purpose to push an agenda not based on facts..
The unemployment rate has gone back to over what it was in 2007. And that's good?

The problem is there are two economies, the stock exchange and big business versus ordinary people, that's you and me. the stock exchange may be doing well, but does that put more money in your pocket? Unemployment may be down, but how many of those are jobs that pay enough to live on?
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This might just be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

When Obama took office, unemployment was at 10% - and rising. It was stunning. I have twenty houses on my street, and exactly half of them were vacant. People had walked away from their houses because they couldn't afford the mortgage. We had multiple housing complexes here in town that had just stopped building. They started to build a restaurant two blocks from my house, and they just stopped leaving an empty shell - walls and a roof, but no windows or doors and nothing inside. They built parking lots for shopping complexes they never finished.

Obama did "okay" on the economy? Holy fucking shit Paul - Obama cut the unemployment rate by more than half.

He didn't fuck up anything. Not a single scandal. And while he did it, he created healthcare - I pay $200 a month for complete coverage for the three of us.

I wasn't a fan of Obama when he took office, and I still had my doubts in the second term, but now... Holy shit, that man worked miracles.
Stop looking at the short picture. The US is getting back on stream to where it was just after 2008. It hasn't got back to where it was in 1970, or 1980.
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What are you talkinq about ?

Are your emails public property ?

What has freedom of speech got to do with foreign powers hacking political parties email servers in order to try and influence elections ?

Would I prefer the emails to stay secret ? Tell me Paul what is it you think was in the emails ?
I'm not standing for President.
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I'm not standing for President.
Ok so when will the Email server of the Trump team be handed over to Wikileaks ?
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