Trump insults Japan, Japan Slaps 50% Tariff on U.S. Beef!

[Bladewire]

If Trump would have stayed in TPP this tariff couldn't take place #ThanksTrump

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Beef tariff comes after Trump named Japan as one of the countries contributing to U.S. trade deficit

Japanese officials said the tariff increase, the first such step in 14 years involving beef, was mandated under a framework that took effect following a 1994 global trade deal. The framework was to be scrapped under the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a proposed 12-nation trade deal that included the U.S. and Japan. Mr. Trump formally pulled the U.S. out of the TPP before it was submitted to Congress for approval.

The higher beef tariff will likely reduce American beef exports, boost the U.S. trade deficit with Japan, and ?harm our important bilateral trade relationship with Japan on agricultural products,? U.S. Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue said in a statement.

The U.S. Meat Export Federation said Japan?s action would have negative implications for both U.S. beef producers and Japanese restaurant chains that rely on frozen American beef. The group ?will work with its partners in Japan to mitigate the impact? of the move, Chief Executive Philip Seng said.

While not entirely unexpected, Tokyo?s move struck a nerve in Washington, where Trump officials have spent months finalizing a small but widely hailed opening for some U.S. beef exports to China.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/japan-s...eef-1501224760

[blackmonsters]

If that means US farmers will have to sell me cheaper steaks then I'm glad.
The farmers would make the same profit because I would just eat more.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

If that means US farmers will have to sell me cheaper steaks then I'm glad.
The farmers would make the same profit because I would just eat more.

I love barbecuing yuuuuuumy

[onwebcam]

Good. I have all the electronics I will ever need and not enough beef.

[bronco67]

Trump views everything as a zero sum game. You win everything and the other guy loses everything or it's a "bad deal". We're finding out that what he calls good deals are what other people call theft or scamming.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Trump views everything as a zero sum game. You win everything and the other guy loses everything or it's a "bad deal". We're finding out that what he calls good deals are what other people call theft or scamming.

Notice how the circus is dominating the news and things like a 50% tarrif on beef isn't?

[NatalieK]

the US must be proud of such an ignorant business man in charge of their country

[Tasty1]

So, that must be a good deal for the environment!
Beef cost a lot of CO2 and is very bad for sustainablility.

So Trump did already more for the climate than he would have agreed in Paris!
More than Obama or Hillary would have done.

In Europe the green party's want extra tax on meat, now Trump helps them.
But why are people complainining about him. Is it just to keep wining?

[Silver_Shamrock]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

So, that must be a good deal for the environment!
Beef cost a lot of CO2 and is very bad for sustainablility.

So Trump did already more for the climate than he would have agreed in Paris!
More than Obama or Hillary would have done.

In Europe the green party's want extra tax on meat, now Trump helps them.
But why are people complainining about him. Is it just to keep wining?

I live in a beef and pork producing state in the U.S. I grew up on dairy farm. Trust me, the farmers around here who depend upon beef prices to stay as stable as possible are pretty fucking pissed off at this news.

Rural Americans also overwhelming voted for Trump. So no, it's not whining, it's people's lives. This isn't some fucking game. We all lose when you have a "leader" doing short-sighted and ill-advised things.

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by Silver_Shamrock

I live in a beef and pork producing state in the U.S. I grew up on dairy farm. Trust me, the farmers around here who depend upon beef prices to stay as stable as possible are pretty fucking pissed off at this news.

Rural Americans also overwhelming voted for Trump. So no, it's not whining, it's people's lives. This isn't some fucking game. We all lose when you have a "leader" doing short-sighted and ill-advised things.

Too bad, but we can't have the climate go up 0,1 degrees celcius in 100 years.

[EddyTheDog]

Japanese culture is all about respect - They must really hate Trump...

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Japanese culture is all about respect

Pearl Harbor + they where the ISIS of WW2.

I bet they just want more money or strengthen their own industry.

[Paul Markham]

Beef is just one product, so leave that aside for a moment.

Is Japan buying more than it's selling to the US? Yes, to the tune of $7.2 billion dollars. So turn around and put a trade tariff on Japanese good so they sell less.

At the moment people are losing jobs in factories, America is losing taxes, just to sell less beef than you buy in say cars.

[Klen]

This show how stupid is Trump - trading is a game and you cant win by simply imposing special rates on import. Austrians found way to manipulate it, as they cant ban import as being a part of EU, they simply established law which require how only pork with specific rules can be sold on their market which just happen how only locally made pork can follow.

[pimpmaster9000]

it is totally japans fault that americans buy so much of their goods...and america, that does not produce shit any more, has full right to be angry people are not buying more american goods

[Klen]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

it is totally japans fault that americans buy so much of their goods...and america, that does not produce shit any more, has full right to be angry people are not buying more american goods

Or they could just install communism and problem solved

[BaldBastard]

TTP was only there to stop the progression of China into the pacific, when Trump cancelled that.. he ensured the USA was fucked, any small gains now will be far out weighed by what the future brings. And be clear other counties have not been sitting back to see what the USA brings to the table next, TTP took 7 years. Deals are already being and have been made with out the USA.

Tariff's are the least of American worries when it comes to agricultural exports, the major concern should be the rolling back of regulations involving their production. It only will take one case of something bad, to see your entire export trade screwed.

Let not forget the great and all powerful USA's major exports to China are.. Soya beans and Cotton. heheh that one always cracks me up.... your all niggas and just don't realise it. :P

[Paul Markham]

Without trade rules, Third world countries will over take the West. They can rely on low wage workers to manufacture the goods and beat you on price.

Then build up their industries to over take us. Then improve their research and development until they're on a level the superior to you. So you no longer have companies in the West making goods, unless they are owned by a Third World company.

So much for the history lesson. This is what has happened.

But don't worry the 1% will do well out of it. They will then sell their goods to the Chinese, India, Brazil, South Korea, etc. As Steffan said you would be a fool not to keep sending jobs to those countries. </sarcasm>

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by Silver_Shamrock

I live in a beef and pork producing state in the U.S. I grew up on dairy farm. Trust me, the farmers around here who depend upon beef prices to stay as stable as possible are pretty fucking pissed off at this news.

Rural Americans also overwhelming voted for Trump. So no, it's not whining, it's people's lives. This isn't some fucking game. We all lose when you have a "leader" doing short-sighted and ill-advised things.

Joke is on them I guess ... MAGA!

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

So, that must be a good deal for the environment!
Beef cost a lot of CO2 and is very bad for sustainablility.

So Trump did already more for the climate than he would have agreed in Paris!
More than Obama or Hillary would have done.

In Europe the green party's want extra tax on meat, now Trump helps them.
But why are people complainining about him. Is it just to keep wining?

Fool.

It wont reduce beef consumption. They will just buy it else where for less.

Making excuses for The Orange Baboon takes some thought. It is getting tougher by the day.

Wonder what his ex chief of staff will have to say about being thrown under the bus.

Another one bites the dust.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Too bad, but we can't have the climate go up 0,1 degrees celcius in 100 years.

Doh !

Dumb post of the year award !

[thommy]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

it is totally japans fault that americans buy so much of their goods...and america, that does not produce shit any more, has full right to be angry people are not buying more american goods

maybe they got lessons from trump and paul.
maybe they also think they can keep a lot of jobs in the country when they support their own beef production.

but maybe the farmers can now find a new job as coal worker - oh stop i think nobody really wants coal - all countries want to get rid of it except..........

i don´t know if that guys in the us-goverment have never been to school or just not listen to their consultants. this what happens in the next 2 years in US will be one day teached as the bad example of how one can ruin a country by not understanding global economic rules.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Beef is just one product, so leave that aside for a moment.

Is Japan buying more than it's selling to the US? Yes, to the tune of $7.2 billion dollars. So turn around and put a trade tariff on Japanese good so they sell less.

At the moment people are losing jobs in factories, America is losing taxes, just to sell less beef than you buy in say cars.

Oh look Paul defending another failure of Trump AGAIN. Wow. Trump can do no wrong in the British man's eyes who's an expat in Czech. Stunning

Trump pulled out of TPP which would have protected us from this increase.

By Trump pulling out of TPP he increased the trade deficite. Do you understand that Paul? Did you read the article?

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by NewNick

Fool.

It wont reduce beef consumption. They will just buy it else where for less.

Making excuses for The Orange Baboon takes some thought. It is getting tougher by the day.

Wonder what his ex chief of staff will have to say about being thrown under the bus.

Another one bites the dust.

oh look. more 1 sided attacking, offering no ideas of your own.

you are one of the biggest clowns on this forum.

[BaldBastard]

Trump pulled out of TTP with Australia.. and US has a trade SURPLUS with Australia..

work that one out.

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c6021.html

Talk about someone intent on FUCKING your country over.. Its ok from the Aussie side though we have already switched to China, along with basically every other pacific nation... meanwhile USA don't even have a policy being discussed to replace it.

China to add 850 Million to its middle class in the next 20 years...

The killer fact about the Chinese middle class

basically 3 more Americas coming in to play


No one.. no one needs USA no more and all Trump is doing is expediting that process. Well actually he's already fucked it, there's no going back now.

The Obama policies were designed to slow that growth, future proofing the USA... and that's all been/ being undone.

Trump has not only screwed the USA now, he's screwing it for generations, and with the raise of China.. that's it done and dusted game over.

better wake up to that.

BTW I like America I'd much rather a future with them than without

But that's been Fucked totally by Donald Trump, I just hope he doesn't push another arms race, because China will certainly win that. More people, more money and more intellect.

Lets fast forward 10 years and say China and USA go to war and the USA calls on its allies to help. Unfortunately that's not going to be pacific countries nor Europe because by then. China will be our biggest trading partner. And China is very complacent at bitch slapping trading partners for not toeing the line. So we would just have to sit back and watch it unfold.

[xXXtesy10]

Originally Posted by thommy

maybe they got lessons from trump and paul.
maybe they also think they can keep a lot of jobs in the country when they support their own beef production.

but maybe the farmers can now find a new job as coal worker - oh stop i think nobody really wants coal - all countries want to get rid of it except..........

i don´t know if that guys in the us-goverment have never been to school or just not listen to their consultants. this what happens in the next 2 years in US will be one day teached as the bad example of how one can ruin a country by not understanding global economic rules.

[Sarn]

It is sanctions against USA? When EU do it too?))

[TheDynasty]

who woulda guessed

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by NewNick

Fool.

It wont reduce beef consumption. They will just buy it else where for less.

Making excuses for The Orange Baboon takes some thought. It is getting tougher by the day.

Wonder what his ex chief of staff will have to say about being thrown under the bus.

Another one bites the dust.

If they will buy it elsewhere, but it is not bought from the USA, than that means there is less co2 production in the USA (if farmers have to stop their business), therefor the USA will have less CO2 consumption. That Japan might buy in another part of the world doesn't matter, the USA wil get their goals, what that other country does is up to the Paris agreement. Stop making excuses like; if i don't sell cocaïne, somebody else will sell it anyway.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

If they will buy it elsewhere, but it is not bought from the USA, than that means there is less co2 production in the USA (if farmers have to stop their business), therefor the USA will have less CO2 consumption. That Japan might buy in another part of the world doesn't matter, the USA wil get their goals, what that other country does is up to the Paris agreement. Stop making excuses like; if i don't sell cocaïne, somebody else will sell it anyway.

So let me get this right - consumption of beef remains the same (and its unwanted side effects) but it is still a good thing ?

Now it might have slipped past you but The Orange One has removed the US from the Paris agreements whereby they had CO2 goals to meet. Spinning this as good for the US in its quest for a clean environment is not only thoroughly ridiculous, but it ranks as the second stupidist remark on the board today. Well done, a 1-2.

So to re-cap, US farmers lose a valuable export market, CO2 production remains the same, and beef farmers outside of the US are very pleased indeed. Is that what he meant about putting Merica first ?

Please do enlighten us on how cocaine has any relevance whatsoever to the farmers in the US whose businesses are now in jeapody because of your glorious leaders ignorance of how international trade actually works ?

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by NewNick

So let me get this right - consumption of beef remains the same (and its unwanted side effects) but it is still a good thing ?

Now it might have slipped past you but The Orange One has removed the US from the Paris agreements whereby they had CO2 goals to meet. Spinning this as good for the US in its quest for a clean environment is not only thoroughly ridiculous, but it ranks as the second stupidist remark on the board today. Well done, a 1-2.

So to re-cap, US farmers lose a valuable export market, CO2 production remains the same, and beef farmers outside of the US are very pleased indeed. Is that what he meant about putting Merica first ?

Please do enlighten us on how cocaine has any relevance whatsoever to the farmers in the US whose businesses are now in jeapody because of your glorious leaders ignorance of how international trade actually works ?

"So let me get this right - consumption of beef remains the same (and its unwanted side effects) but it is still a good thing ?"

You don't know if it will be the the same. My guess is they bought US beef cause it is cheap. If it is more expensive, people might be eating less. At least, that is what environemntal companies say; tax meat extra and people will eat less.

Unwillingly trump did great things for the climate, mustn't there be a lot of happy people here? 3 weeks ago it looked like the world would come to an end cause Trump didn't want to sign the Paris Agreement and therefor the earth will be 0.1 degrees warmer in 100 years. Now he does something great for the climate, but people are still not happy???!!!??

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

oh look. more 1 sided attacking, offering no ideas of your own.

you are one of the biggest clowns on this forum.

Josh Bb, how are you ?

One sided attacking ?

Are you serious, of course a well balanced chap like you could never be accused of anything so coarse.

So I take it that you are pleased about this ?, you think that its a good thing right ?

Trump bringing back jobs and MAGA right ?

Are you pleased for the US farmers ? Tell us what you think Josh ?

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

"So let me get this right - consumption of beef remains the same (and its unwanted side effects) but it is still a good thing ?"

You don't know if it will be the the same. My guess is they bought US beef cause it is cheap. If it is more expensive, people might be eating less. At least, that is what environemntal companies say; tax meat extra and people will eat less.

Unwillingly trump did great things for the climate, mustn't there be a lot of happy people here? 3 weeks ago it looked like the world would come to an end cause Trump didn't want to sign the Paris Agreement and therefor the earth will be 0.1 degrees warmer in 100 years. Now he does something great for the climate, but people are still not happy???!!!??

Yes if you increase the cost of meat GLOBALLY meat consumption in Japan might reduce.

However all this does is increase demand of imports of Beef from other sources.

Even Josh BB can see that, and he is really really stupid.

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by NewNick

Yes if you increase the cost of meat GLOBALLY meat consumption in Japan might reduce.

However all this does is increase demand of imports of Beef from other sources.

Even Josh BB can see that, and he is really really stupid.

That is what i mean. Pointing the finger at other countries to justify you keep producing CO2 for meat.

Read this:
"U.S. Suspends Beef Imports From Brazil"https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/22/world/americas/beef-imports-brazil-united-states.html

It all compensates. Less travelling for the USA meat till it ends on a plate.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

"So let me get this right - consumption of beef remains the same (and its unwanted side effects) but it is still a good thing ?"

You don't know if it will be the the same. My guess is they bought US beef cause it is cheap. If it is more expensive, people might be eating less. At least, that is what environemntal companies say; tax meat extra and people will eat less.

Unwillingly trump did great things for the climate, mustn't there be a lot of happy people here? 3 weeks ago it looked like the world would come to an end cause Trump didn't want to sign the Paris Agreement and therefor the earth will be 0.1 degrees warmer in 100 years. Now he does something great for the climate, but people are still not happy???!!!??

bjorn - don´t be stupid.
you can´t compare the CO2 damage from beef with in example the damage caused by fracking or coal.

what you guys like to forget in this "cow fart problem" is that cows are eating gras. gras is reducing CO2 and there would be less gras if there would be less cows.

in fact EVERY plant is producing CO2 as soon it it used for something or eaten. it is producing the SAME amount of CO2 what it needs to take while it is growing. that´s why
you will INCREASE CO2 with fossils like coal, gas or oil because that is not growing again and there will not be any consumption of CO2 from growing plants.

your argument would make sense if this cows where eating coal or gas or oil. but the good thing is: they don´t like it !

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

That is what i mean. Pointing the finger at other countries to justify you keep producing CO2 for meat.

Read this:
"U.S. Suspends Beef Imports From Brazil"https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/22/world/americas/beef-imports-brazil-united-states.html

It all compensates. Less travelling for the USA meat till it ends on a plate.

see - THIS is again a good example how a globalized economy is influencing prosperity.
because WHY is US importing beef from brazil when it exports its own beef to japan?

i will tell you why: because US citizens could not afford to buy the prime rib every day.
but prime rib is an AMERICAN good and CAN be exported.
what follows here on long term is either that the meat price in US goes up (decreasing properity because people have to spend more money) or us-farmers have to stop the prime rib production what will kill the export completely and with it it will kill jobs (and again the prosperity is killed).

please stop to talk about economy - you are telling the same bullshit as paul.
your economic solutions are proven wrong since thousands of years - why should mankind make the same mistakes again just because people like you, paul or joshua G
have been sick when that was teached in school ?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Oh look Paul defending another failure of Trump AGAIN. Wow. Trump can do no wrong in the British man's eyes who's an expat in Czech. Stunning

Trump pulled out of TPP which would have protected us from this increase.

By Trump pulling out of TPP he increased the trade deficite. Do you understand that Paul? Did you read the article?

How many jobs have been lost due to Globalisation? How many more jobs will be lost?

Or is that OK with you?

[Paul Markham]

The US will, the way it's going, drop to #2, then #3 in the world order very soon. Because it has exported jobs and imported those products it once made. This is expensive as you can see.



Trump was elected to try to stop it.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Trump was elected to try to stop it.

oh what about voting for someone who have a CLUE of econmy? wouldn´t that be a better idea?

globalisation did not kill jobs it created NEW ONES !!! that´s what you can see in ALL OTHER COUNTRIES !!!!!!!

so something must be wrong with your idea when you see in some western countries an increase of live standard and in the US a decrease.

the reason is that US have handled ALL financial crisis after cancelling the gold standard by debts. especially the private sector was here the one what was used to push the local economy by giving loans over loans. giving creditcard by creditcard - but what they forgot in this game is, that one day every loan have to paid back.

in this days you can´t push the us economy anymore by giving more loans because citizens are already at the end of their credit-worthiness.

the one and only way out of that is the global market and thinking about other products to export as weapons, oil and coal.

with other words: the us government has been sleeping too long and used the same antibiotic to cure the same disease. as we all know every virus and every bacteria will become resident with the time.

to push a person like trump into the president´s chair is the WRONGEST thing you can do because his "success - story" is basically a result of this wrong politics of the past and all he can think and do is how to get the rich people richer.
and he does it in such an obvious way that everyone who still believes in him can be classified as superdumb.

america is such a smart country with such smart people on one site and 25% super idiots on the other side who are victims of populism whose opinion is not supported by any education or skills. they just believe blind in the devil dressed in resister uniform.

there are many many corrupt countries in the world but not one is corrupter as the USA because they VOTE for the most corrupt to lead the country.

[bns666]

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by thommy

bjorn - don´t be stupid.
you can´t compare the CO2 damage from beef with in example the damage caused by fracking or coal.

what you guys like to forget in this "cow fart problem" is that cows are eating gras. gras is reducing CO2 and there would be less gras if there would be less cows.

in fact EVERY plant is producing CO2 as soon it it used for something or eaten. it is producing the SAME amount of CO2 what it needs to take while it is growing. that´s why
you will INCREASE CO2 with fossils like coal, gas or oil because that is not growing again and there will not be any consumption of CO2 from growing plants.

your argument would make sense if this cows where eating coal or gas or oil. but the good thing is: they don´t like it !

So, Thommy knows better than the whole green movement and scientist.
Are cows the cause of global warming? | Time for change

"The most important conclusion for ourselves is: Eat much less meat and dairy products. This is one of the most effective ways to reduce our personal carbon footprint and to generally reduce our personal negative impact on the environment. "

Cows don't eat grass, they eat superfoods to produce more milk and beef. Not all cow meat is exclusive kobe-meat. They aren't even allowed to go outside to eat grass. They must fart inside. Why do you think there aren't many cows outside in Holland anymore? Is all because they must fart inside cause of co2 laws.

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by thommy

see - THIS is again a good example how a globalized economy is influencing prosperity.
because WHY is US importing beef from brazil when it exports its own beef to japan?

i will tell you why: because US citizens could not afford to buy the prime rib every day.
but prime rib is an AMERICAN good and CAN be exported.
what follows here on long term is either that the meat price in US goes up (decreasing properity because people have to spend more money) or us-farmers have to stop the prime rib production what will kill the export completely and with it it will kill jobs (and again the prosperity is killed).

please stop to talk about economy - you are telling the same bullshit as paul.
your economic solutions are proven wrong since thousands of years - why should mankind make the same mistakes again just because people like you, paul or joshua G
have been sick when that was teached in school ?

Thommy doesn't know what he wants. You where so mad about 0.01 degrees Paris Climate plan where Trump destroyed the world. But when he does something good, it is also bad. You must make a choice; what do you want; to save, jobs or the world!

Why does every "green" organisation try to let people less meat. And what works best accoring to them; make it more expensive!

"Industrial livestock agriculture—raising cows, pigs and chickens—generates as much greenhouse gas emissions as all cars, trucks and automobiles combined."
"Cattle ranchers have clear cut millions of acreshaof forests for grazing pastures, inhibiting the landscape’s ability to absorb carbon from the atmosphere. "

More Meat Threatens the Planet
More Meat Threatens the Planet

Just admit, this is good for the environment... And better for the USA when they start consuming their own meat.
You don't want the bionic cows from Brazil that are exported while rotten, with no quality control cause of bribes.

[nico-t]

Big international corporate deals like TPP, TTIP and CETA only benefit the huge conglomerates and destroys the national small and medium sized businesses, because these deals make it impossible for them to compete. Deals like this are created for and by these huge global corporations to make more money and to phase out competition.

I cannot believe how you can support this, it's really a riddle to me.

Besides that, those deals will also overrule national laws regarding possible harmful ingredients in food which some countries do allow and some do not. It will all be negatively leveled down. If these deals all go through we are all eating bad quality food from the same huge corporations stuffed with chemicals. Hooray for cancer!

[Sarn]

The United States has the world's largest trade deficit. It's been that way since 1975. The deficit in goods and services was $502 billion in 2016. It occurred because imports were $2.7 trillion and exports were only $2.2 trillion.

China -- $579 billion traded with a $347 billion deficit.
Canada -- $545 billion traded with a $11 billion deficit.
Mexico -- $525 billion traded with a $63 billion deficit.
Japan -- $196 billion traded with a $69 billion deficit.
Germany -- $164 billion traded with a $65 billion deficit.
https://www.thebalance.com/trade-def...county-3306264

This countries which Trump not like ;)

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Trump pulled out of TTP with Australia.. and US has a trade SURPLUS with Australia..

Well, we don't really need any kangaroo meat or dingoes at this moment.

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Well, we don't really need any kangaroo meat or dingoes at this moment.

Actually all jokes aside you probably got some roo meat, its used in dog and cat foods a lot, its not bad to eat either certainly more healthy for you than beef. Taste is more like a gamy venison.

And just in case you don't understand my post, under the TTP trade deal America was making more from Australia, than we were making from you, cancelling it as Trump did has a zero effect on Aus, because we just sell more of the same product to China. The long term effect is the American farmers and what ever selling their products to Australia got screwed, no more trade agreement with here. Trump has said he will renegotiate it at some time, I don't think its entered American heads, the deals have already been done with China.. there's nothing to trade with you now... Unless of course you want to pay more.. And don't forget the past TTP took 7 years to finalize. Trump fucked the USA over forever on that, China was waiting with cheque book in hand for it to happen.

Its not all doom and gloom, I fully expect China to have a huge social revolution at some time. Just understand its not the USA's call any more.. Its China's.

TTP was designed to make Pacific nations, dependant on the USA not China.

[Tasty1]

China's plan to cut meat consumption by 50% cheered by climate campaigners
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...climate-change

But it doesn't work, only more meat eaters in Japan and China.

"“China’s demand for meat will continue to grow and support hundreds of thousands of jobs in the US meat industry,” he added. “From a climate perspective, the methane will still be created, but will be shifted to the United States.”"

China, hypocrit Paris Agreement supporter

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

How many jobs have been lost due to Globalisation? How many more jobs will be lost?

Or is that OK with you?

I can live in any country and adapt.

We are already globalised, you are a perfect example of this. A British white nationalist uncomfortable with the browning of Britain you move to all white Czech, take jobs from locals and make your money online by exporting content. What you made was then stolen by Russians & Asians online, redistributed and put money in their pockets.

There's no going back now Paul adapt or die has proven very true in globalisation.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Do you know what Kobe Beef is and how much it costs in Japan. This is all about Japanese farm protectionism.

The only beef I have personally eaten that was imported was canned corned beef. The canned imported beef comes from Brazil now. Argentine canned corned beef disappeared from store shelves 2 years ago here.

NEWS: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/22/w...ed-states.html
FRESH beef imports to the US from Brazil are suspended for reason of sanitation concerns.

All the fresh meat I buy is from the USA. This is in a normal commercial grocery store's meat counter. There is a lot of imported frozen fish. I buy Chinese Wild Caught Salmon that comes frozen -- that has always been good here (Kroger). Other pond raised fish from China and Asia are not very good tasting. I do get tilapia -- high grade from a commercial restaurant supply house here (open to the public also) that is actually good fish but it costs twice the price as the crap at Aldis does -- their talipia tastes like the pond fish are fed grease renderings and have to eat their own shit for roughage ...

[crockett]

MAGA any day now..