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nico-t 08-12-2017 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 21945070)
That was not a message to the US but a message to North Korea. You just read it wrong.

That seems to be his chronic condition.

Fabien 08-12-2017 08:33 AM

There goes my drop shipping biz with AlieXpress and USA...

Tasty1 08-12-2017 09:35 AM

Obama officials tried to downplay the DIA assessment to prevent it from being used to force the president to employ a more assertive North Korea policy.

Obama administration knew about North Korea's miniaturized nukes | Fox News

We only know what was best to do in 5,10,20 years..

A crisis is now the biggest concern, the economy will go down hard.
All signs are on red, bigger crisis than we had recent years.
Cause we already printed so much money in Europe.

Let's see it positive. Some scientist say that a nuclear bomnb, just like a big vulcano, could block the sun.
Than the earth could become a little colder! So the global warming problem is over :)
And a few hundred thousands/millions people will die, that is also very good for environement.
The nature is good in solving problems naturaly.

"Small Nuclear War Could Reverse Global Warming for Years "

Small Nuclear War Could Reverse Global Warming for Years?

BaldBastard 08-12-2017 09:51 AM

If you want to blame a president, blame Harry S. Truman.

Trump has himself in this unique situation now, do nothing except words and leave it for the next president or take action and kill millions in the process.

Which incidentally is the same as Clinton, Bush and Obama, no one wanted the blood on their hands and I doubt Trump will either.. except his mouth might bring it on.

Barry-xlovecam 08-12-2017 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 21948397)
...Is Trump going to kill tens of millions of North Koreans tonight? cos face it anything that's left after that initial attack is going to be thrown back, you got one hit and it's over or WW3.

Thanks Trump ...

ONE US Navy Ohio class sub has 192 MIRV nuclear warheads on its ballistic missiles -- 11,000 nautical mile range -- there are 18 Ohio class subs. 18x192 <<< get it?

Nothing will happen -- if it does -- GOOD BYE.

China and India are busy with a major border dispute in the Himalayas near Bhutan right now -- so China is not even a factor at the moment. China is streched out in the South China Sea, the Himalayas and North Korea -- guess who gets thrown under the bus?

B2 gets new flight management processor -- narrated by -- *Mr. Robot*

Who the fuck makes all of these YouTubes? the CIA? DIA?


BaldBastard 08-12-2017 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21948640)
ONE US Navy Ohio class sub has 192 MIRV nuclear warheads on its ballistic missiles -- 11,000 nautical mile range -- there are 18 Ohio class subs. 18x192 <<< get it?

Nothing will happen -- if it does -- GOOD BYE.

China and India are busy with a major border dispute in the Himalayas near Bhutan right now -- so China is not even a factor at the moment. China is streched out in the South China Sea, the Himalayas and North Korea -- guess who gets thrown under the bus?

More than 3 million North Koreans have signed up for the army in the past week, they have called on reserves. The USA can throw as many missiles as they want at NK, and it won't solve one thing just create 5 more problems. USA bombs NK, instantly you have 25 million terrorists out for revenge, for generations.

pimpmaster9000 08-12-2017 10:14 AM

Kim ain't gonna surrender he is too batshit...invasion is not an option because you will win and he will launch...his army is uber loyal and will launch for him in the blink of an eye...fat boy is an untouchable touchable...he dies of natural death or goes out with a boom...you can't win against him...

Barry-xlovecam 08-12-2017 10:15 AM

It's all bluffs. Same shit as Khrushchev and Castro and ... Notice Putin and the Russian media are saying little?

Who said the scenario is survivable?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ative-behavior
China's Xi Seeks to Calm North Korea Tensions in Trump Call

Who's shitting bricks?

BaldBastard 08-12-2017 10:20 AM

Yeah it is Bluffs... TRUMPS Bluffs.

NK be happy enough to go to war with you, they have been preparing for it for the past 60 years, and most likely sit on the biggest pile of biological and chemical weapons on the planet. USA had no issues using them against them, I guess the return will be acceptable?

Putin's not saying zip, his biggest customer for nuclear technology is having "issues"

The way Trump is addressing North Korea is dangerous, foolish, and anything but presidential.


Direct from South Korea.. The public officials further called on Trump to change his foreign policy and use " diplomatic experts who can handle the crisis delicately" .

Korean-Americans tell Trump not to escalate tension

Paul Markham 08-12-2017 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 21948058)
Because the USA needs these countries to be dependant on them.. not China. And with a free trade agreement those countries would of been able to produce what China does now, and sell it to the USA.

Forget the trade.. TTP from an American perspective was all about slowing the growth of China. It was cheap.. considering the alternatives.

Your English, living in Cheq, so I hardly expect you to get it.

So you're saying they are doing this to keep China in check while building up the economies of other Nations.

Think about that for a moment.

It's easier to impose trade sanctions on China.

Paul Markham 08-12-2017 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 21948307)
More like capitalists that found cheap labour ( children _) to boost their bottom line ...

Stop thinking that US actions are taken in perspective of bettering the lifes of non-americans :2 cents:

Stop thinking that US trade actions are taken in perspective of bettering the lives of most Americans

Paul Markham 08-12-2017 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 21948631)
If you want to blame a president, blame Harry S. Truman.

Trump has himself in this unique situation now, do nothing except words and leave it for the next president or take action and kill millions in the process.

Which incidentally is the same as Clinton, Bush and Obama, no one wanted the blood on their hands and I doubt Trump will either.. except his mouth might bring it on.

It goes back way further than Clinton. Trump can't allow it to go to the next President.

Paul Markham 08-12-2017 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 21948676)
More than 3 million North Koreans have signed up for the army in the past week, they have called on reserves. The USA can throw as many missiles as they want at NK, and it won't solve one thing just create 5 more problems. USA bombs NK, instantly you have 25 million terrorists out for revenge, for generations.

North Koreans aren't Muslims. They will sell themselves for food. And Cruise Missiles will take out most of their large weaponry. B2 Bombers will follow up and remove what's left of the leadership. Then the US can drop food parcels and literature to show what the Kim Regime has inflicted on them.

BaldBastard 08-12-2017 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21948736)
So you're saying they are doing this to keep China in check while building up the economies of other Nations.

Think about that for a moment.

It's easier to impose trade sanctions on China.

Gword bangs head on desk are you truly stupid or just ignorant?

just a punk 08-12-2017 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21948640)
Why The U.S B-2 Stealth Bomber Is Now 1,000-Times More Ready for War?

There is no "stealth" technology. The F-117A was shot down in Serbia by a telegraph pole in 1999. With a technology of 60's. New aircraft bombers are much faster and they carry nuclear cruise missiles. They don't drop bombs, they launches nuke cruise missiles form a long distance. They attack the enemy territory far away from it's border. They don't have to be "invisible" for that.


pimpmaster9000 08-12-2017 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21948751)
North Koreans aren't Muslims. They will sell themselves for food. And Cruise Missiles will take out most of their large weaponry. B2 Bombers will follow up and remove what's left of the leadership. Then the US can drop food parcels and literature to show what the Kim Regime has inflicted on them.

Paul is smarter than 60 years of Koreans prepping...Paul figured it out in 5min...

Sarn 08-12-2017 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21948697)
It's all bluffs. Same shit as Khrushchev and Castro and ...

Khrushchev did not bluff, he stopped nuclear race
https://youtu.be/aMYYEsKvHvk?t=201

Bladewire 08-12-2017 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21948832)
There is no "stealth" technology.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh good one :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Barry-xlovecam 08-12-2017 02:17 PM

The Russians *think* that ... Putin told them so.

Khrushchev was *retired* by the Politburo (more or less) as undesireable.

pimpmaster9000 08-12-2017 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21949336)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh good one :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

It shows up on Russian radars from the 60's...shot down by a Russian missile for the 60's...next time you should warn us it is invisible and we will treat it accordingly...we can be like "ooooh we really did not see it woooow it is so cool!"...hey you don't even have to send a plane we will still pretend we did not see it and it was awesome? Go USA!

Sarn 08-12-2017 03:20 PM

Khrushchev did with USA the same what Trump wants to do with NK, stopped develop nuke weapon. But Khrushchev had success.

Bladewire 08-12-2017 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21949501)
Khrushchev did with USA the same what Trump wants to do with NK, stopped develop nuke weapon. But Khrushchev had success.

You're the dumbest fuckup Russian I've ever interacted with Russians like you give Russians like CyberSEO a bad name.

Sarn 08-12-2017 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21949507)
You're the dumbest fuckup Russian I've ever interacted with Russians like you give Russians like CyberSEO a bad name.

:1orglaugh

Barry-xlovecam 08-12-2017 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21949432)
It shows up on Russian radars from the 60's...shot down by a Russian missile for the 60's...next time you should warn us it is invisible and we will treat it accordingly...we can be like "ooooh we really did not see it woooow it is so cool!"...hey you don't even have to send a plane we will still pretend we did not see it and it was awesome? Go USA!

So why did Serbia get bombed relentlessly for 79 days if your radar was so fuckin' good?

femdomdestiny 08-12-2017 03:49 PM

I must admit that it is very tempting to join this useless and paranoid debate but I won't do it. Already woke up my GF when I was laughung loud to warmongering stupidity repeating again after all those things happened in the previous decades. Anyway,keep it coming, I can't sleep.

femdomdestiny 08-12-2017 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21949540)
So why did Serbia get bombed relentlessly for 79 days if your radar was so fuckin' good?

Crap...I am in: because tiny serbia sorounded by nato should be crushed in up to three days.it was initial plan. After not being able to do it,NATO started killing civilians on markets,trains,houses,coloumns and destroying factories.NATO was close to spend all cruise missles and they wouldnt stand a chance in the ground warfare.If they would get into ground fight,losses would be extreme. Serbian army was litrrally intact after the war. Now,Serbs had 120 k people ,and NK has millions. NK is disciplined and those guys are learned to resist and obey for generations.On the top of that they are not alone and they have china behind their back.

pimpmaster9000 08-12-2017 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21949540)
So why did Serbia get bombed relentlessly for 79 days if your radar was so fuckin' good?

We mostly got tomahawked...we ain't got money to explode like you guys we shot down you "invisible" plane with an old ruskie missile tho...we gave away the fun bits of the plane to the Russians and Chinese they could not find it's invisibility so you guys did a good job of hiding it...we will let you know if at any time it does turn invisible...

Sarn 08-12-2017 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21949540)
So why did Serbia get bombed relentlessly for 79 days if your radar was so fuckin' good?

I know guys which evacuate tactical nuke from Yugoslavia.
It was a political decision.

Barry-xlovecam 08-12-2017 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21949621)
We mostly got tomahawked...we ain't got money to explode like you guys we shot down you "invisible" plane with an old ruskie missile tho...we gave away the fun bits of the plane to the Russians and Chinese they could not find it's invisibility so you guys did a good job of hiding it...we will let you know if at any time it does turn invisible...

You shot down 1 plane and got your country bombed to shit and pummeled -- then you declared victory and surrendered.

That about right?

Barry-xlovecam 08-12-2017 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21949642)
I know guys which evacuate tactical nuke from Yugoslavia.
It was a political decision.

Thanks for the help winning that one :upsidedow

Barry-xlovecam 08-12-2017 04:34 PM

The North Koreans acknowledge your support.
Maybe, they will follow your example.
Stupid is not limited to one country or nationality -- share the wealth.

Sarn 08-12-2017 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21949693)
Thanks for the help winning that one :upsidedow

Pacifists without any profit for us.

Yugoslavia began a number of fundamental reforms beginning in the early 1950s, bringing about change in three major directions: rapid liberalization and decentralization of the country's political system, the institution of a new, unique economic system, and a diplomatic policy of non-alignment. Yugoslavia refused to take part in the communist Warsaw Pact and instead took a neutral stance in the Cold War and became a founding member of the Non-Aligned Movement along with countries like India, Egypt and Indonesia, and pursued one of its center-left influences that promoted a non-confrontational policy towards the U.S
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social..._of_Yugoslavia

The main problems involve Moscow's difficulties in repaying $2.5 billion in loans and bridging a $1.5 billion trade deficit
Yugoslavia abolished barter trade, the arrangement it had employed with the Soviet Union, and based all foreign commerce on hard currency transactions.
Soviet Union-Yugoslavia fail to resolve economic problems - UPI Archives

If they was like Poland comrades it will be better for him. :1orglaugh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw...Czechoslovakia

pimpmaster9000 08-12-2017 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21949687)
You shot down 1 plane and got your country bombed to shit and pummeled -- then you declared victory and surrendered.

That about right?


None of this makes your plane invisible...do the people of the USA have some sort of consumer protection agency where you could return the planes and ask for a refund?...

Sarn 08-12-2017 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21949699)
The North Koreans acknowledge your support.
Maybe, they will follow your example.
Stupid is not limited to one country or nationality -- share the wealth.

We will support what will be better for majority people in NK. I think.

pimpmaster9000 08-12-2017 06:11 PM

Trump's approval rating up 6% because of North Korea crap...typical...

Paul Markham 08-13-2017 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 21948787)
Gword bangs head on desk are you truly stupid or just ignorant?

Sanctions would be harder than trying to go the TTP route????

pimpmaster9000 08-13-2017 03:10 AM

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aee5OOO_700b.jpg

just a punk 08-13-2017 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21949360)
The Russians *think* that ... Putin told them so.

I have no idea on that clown says. I just know that a "stealth" US plane was shot down by an outdated missile, which was made 50 years old and it removed the mofo from the air just because it doesn't know that the US plane is "stealth" and "invisible".

I can tell it again: there is no "stealth" technology which can not be and ate taken down by the modern systems like S-300 and S-400 (go google them).

If you want to see the real aircraft technology, here is the one. It's recognized as UFO (unidentified flying object) by NATO. It's something which moves "unnatural" against the laws of physics and gravitation. The American technologies had always sucked to the Russian ones. In the cosmic space and in the air...



This is not some "top gun" movie with fake planes and fake pilots. This is a real life jet fighter with a real pilot at a public air show. The pilot of this aircraft will never say "I have a bandit at six, oh... I will die". He will just reverse his beast and eliminate the enemy. Do you remember what happened to the US Phantom planes in Vietnam which were equipped with new supper-duper air-to-air missiles? They were destroyed in the old good dog fights by Russian MIGs.

Barry-xlovecam 08-13-2017 07:14 AM

Then you have nothing to worry about ...

just a punk 08-13-2017 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21950500)
Then you have nothing to worry about ...

I have a lot of things to be worried about, like economics, Putin's fascist laws, my family earnings etc. But I definitely don't worry about the things you post in this thread - I came here for fun only.

Bladewire 08-13-2017 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21950458)
I have no idea on that clown says. I just know that a "stealth" US plane was shot down by an outdated missile, which was was 50 years old and it removed to mofo from the skies just because it doesn't know that the US plane is "stealth" and "invisible".

I can tell it again: there is no "stealth" technology which can not be detected ate taken down by the modern systems like S-300 and S-400 (go google them).

If you want to see the real aircraft technology, here is the one. It's recognized as UFO (unidentified flying object) by NATO. It's something which moves "unnatural" against the laws of physics and gravitation. The American technologies have always sucked to the Russian ones. In the cosmic space and in the air...

This is not some "top gun" movie with fake planes and fake pilots. This is a real life jet fighter with a real pilot at a public air show. The pilot of this aircraft will never say "I have a bandit at six, oh... I will die". He will just reverse his beast and eliminate the enemy. Do you remember what happened to the US Phantom planes in Vietnam which were equipped with new supper-duper air-to-air missiles? They were destroyed in the old good dog fights by Russian MIGs.

VEGA 31?: THE FIRST AND ONLY F-117 STEALTH FIGHTER JET SHOT DOWN IN COMBAT

One stealth bomber gets shot down almost 20 years ago (the only one in history) in a freak scenario and you act like it's the norm :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The stealth bomber was detected because it's bomber doors were open (the only time it's detectible and vulnerable) and the Serbs knew when and where to look for it due to America's unencrypted communucations. You're so funny :1orglaugh

Teach yourself something :winkwink:

"How the Serbian air defense managed to achieve the first and only stealth plane is open to debate.

According to the Serbs, Belgrade?s air defenses operators had found they could detect stealth planes using some slightly modified Soviet radars. In particular, the modifications involved using long wavelengths that enabled such radar systems to detect the stealth planes at relatively short range when the low radar cross section of the aircraft was affected when the bomb bay doors were open to drop 2,000 lb bombs.

Moreover, Serbs monitored U.S. and allied radio comms on UHF and VHF frequencies (mostly unencrypted ? as happened 12 years later during the opening phases of Operation Odyssey Dawn over Libya) and were also able to intercept NATO plane?s ATO (Air Tasking Orders) that enabled them to put anti-aircraft batteries at positions close to the ground targets."

VEGA 31?: THE FIRST AND ONLY F-117 STEALTH FIGHTER JET SHOT DOWN IN COMBAT

Barry-xlovecam 08-13-2017 07:21 AM

It gets worse -- if 51% in some FOX news poll favor attacking North Korea --Trumpistanis will favor attacking NOW! Preemptively

Will Fire and Fury II follow Fire and Fury I?
Nuclear Threats Against North Korea: Consequences of the 'forgotten' war | The Asia-Pacific Journal: Japan Focus

Well, this did not work out well the first time
incompetent indecision?

just a punk 08-13-2017 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21950512)

Nobody has tried to shot them down. They have never attacked Russia or our allies. The clowns have attacked Serbia (yeah, a so easy target for the USA) and lost an "invisible plane" which was taken down by a missile, made in 1960. To be honest, I was surprised that the rusty shit was able to fly after so many years... RIP the INVISIBLE F-117 STEALTH FIGHTER JET...

P.S. The piece of metal was sent to Russia to be "analyzed".

The modern systems are so different....


Bladewire 08-13-2017 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21950530)
Nobody has tried to shot them down. They have never attacked Russia or our allies. The clowns have attacked Serbia (yeah, a so easy target for the USA) and lost an "invisible plane" which was taken down by a missile, made in 1960. To be honest, I was surprised that the rusty shit was able to fly after so many years... RIP the INVISIBLE F-117 STEALTH FIGHTER JET...

P.S. The piece of metal was sent to Russia to be "analyzed".

Right... keep telling yourself that ruski :1orglaugh

just a punk 08-13-2017 08:01 AM

Yes, I will. Thank you ;)

Bladewire 08-13-2017 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21950590)
Yes, I will. Thank you ;)


just a punk 08-13-2017 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21950605)

I did watch a video from 90's about Russian fighter jets on Discovery (I can Google it if you ask). There was an American pilot who has tried both the US and Russian aircrafts. He said that the US machines are scalpels, while the Russian ones are hummers. The Russian aircraft can take off and land even w/o a аirstrip - right to dirt or grass. Those can fly in any climate (they don't freeze or overheat) and they don't give a shit about gravity and physics: the Russian planes can fly anyhow and they won't be destroyed by the air flow during the maneuvers. Also he said that Russian pilots have to do the things that will make the American pilots to lose their job. E.g. like a flying with a supersonic speed at a 10 meters attitude.





In the USA the pilot will be dismissed, in Russia it's a must. I'm still tinkling of the "Top Gun" movie and laughing at it :)

P.S. You know what? If it will be a real combat (a one when you have to win or die), I'll prefer to have a hummer against a scalpel :2 cents:

Bladewire 08-13-2017 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21951031)
I was watching a video from 90's about Russian fighter jets on Discovery (I can Google it if you ask). There was an American pilot who has tried both the US and Russian aircrafts. He said that the US machines are scalpels, while the Russian ones are hummers. The Russian aircraft can take over and land even w/o a аirstrip - right to dirt or grass. Those can fly in any climate (they don't freeze or overheat) and they don't give a shit about gravity and physics: the Russian planes can fly anyhow and they won't be destroyed by the air pressure during the maneuvers. Also he said that Russian pilots have to do the things that will make the American pilots to lose their job. E.g. like a flying at a supersonic speed at a 10 meters attitude.

You know that? If it will be a real combat (a one when you have to win or die), I'll prefer to have a hummer against a scalpel :2 cents:

I'd rather fight alongside Russias against China and not have to see our magnificent machines destroy yours again :1orglaugh


BaldBastard 08-13-2017 12:37 PM


pimpmaster9000 08-13-2017 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21950587)
Right... keep telling yourself that ruski :1orglaugh

It is amusing to see your government explanation on how the "invisible" plane was shot down LOL..."a latch was open" riiiight...how did they know this of the plane was shot down in Serbia? We got all of it...how could they possibly know?..."the communications were unencrypted" LOL...sounds legit...

Your plane appears on old Russian radars...but hey it's stealth when nobody is looking!


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