Matt 26z

Free speech does not exist on the internet with corporations moderating speech. This is supported by those who say "using facebook is not a right" or "youtube can choose what they want on their servers."

The problem is we do not have a digital public space where free speech is guaranteed.

Should internet services meeting certain criteria be deemed public places where all speech is protected?

Bladewire

People that have worked in online adult for close to 20 years, as I have , know that freedom of speech online is bullshit.

There is no freedom of speech.

Paypal has fucked us, hosts have fucked us, billers have fucked us, Visa & Mastercard have fucked us.

But all you racist Nazi assholes care about is yourselves, you never gave a shit about the adult industry, as we can see by how all your fucking fake nics post hate here EVERY DAY, ALL DAY.

You NEVER post about adult industry stuff, it's always hate and bitching and moaning about how you're repressed. Jesus fucking christ all your fake nics are the biggest snowflake cucks on the planet.

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beerptrol

lol!
Start your own social media sites and stick with info wars and breitbart.
You assholes talk about big corporation, jew this or jew that, but never had a problem with them when you were posting your nazi shit and making money from these platforms.
Now that they are cracking down it's all the sudden a problem!

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Matt 26z

What percentage of your posts are business related?

beerptrol

You are free to start your own network, platforms and other nazi shit.
Just stop crying how your freedoms are being infringed upon because companies don't want their money spent or to be associated with you

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Barry-xlovecam

Here is a free speech site: The White House | whitehouse.gov

Go tell it to fearless leader ...

Newspapers can refuse to publish your drivel. Freedom of commercial speech and a business' right of association makes your free speech rights subordinate to it -- always has. Take it to the US Supreme Court or pass a constitutional amendment.

Move to the onion -- say whatever you like.
Remember -- The CIA masterminded tor -- they will be watching

ISIS has to be reveling in this shit. Decadent American infidels ...

Matt 26z

You are correct. That's how the system works.

Do you believe the internet needs some kind of free speech area? (whatever that may entail)

Matt 26z

How about a taxpayer funded messaging system that is considered a digital public space?

You would have the same rights posting on it as you would talking on a public street.

beerptrol

Here's an idea. How about you nazis fund your own shit!

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Helix

Everything is digitally stored waiting for NSA's next search string.
Antifa, White Supremacist groups, everyone, everywhere, everything. All captured and stored.

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Barry-xlovecam

From my point of view there should be a "do no harm" policy in place.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/t...t-I/chapter-13

As a private business, I would disallow anything remotely in violation of these laws even if there is only a virtual threat involved.

ICANN is the NGO that operates the internet now and every nation can apply its own laws to this world wide 'utility'. ICANN's only tasked duty is to run the infrastructure of the Internet and not to regulate it.

So, again if you don't like the laws change them -- that is the limited constitutional right you have in USA. In China I don't think you can petition the government or obtain redress in the courts.

If your question is should fringe elements be allowed to fantasize, conspire or actually plan unlawful acts on the internet? The answer is no or as the law applies in that jurisdiction.

If neo-Nazis want to promote the annual company picnic that in itself is a lawful action. If someone hypothetically started a site for the purpose of child pornography is that protected speech -- even if all they do is fantasize or act out to conspire? Maybe, their prosecution of a crime may be a reach -- but is that freedom of speech too? What are their rights? I say none as they intend harm to people -- private businesses should have the right to limit speech on their 'virtual' as well as physical premises.

Or, the the crude colloquial, "if you don't like it -- hit the bricks"

Matt 26z

Obviously, in terms of content, if something is illegal offline then it is illegal online.

Speech laws do vary from nation to nation. So let's assume first world nations.

I'm not saying an abortion activist should have a civil right to spam graphic abortion photos to a Barbie doll forum. I think what we need are laws that say general non-topical communication platforms (services like Facebook and YouTube) must allow all non-commercial communication that is within the law. In other words a kind of net neutrality for speech.

Bladewire

The alt right fake nics here are all about posting hate and harming people on GFY everyday.

There's almost no more industry people posting here anymore and a couple guys with almost 10 alt right fake nics posting hate here everyday all day.

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Oh look, a lefty calling anyone right a nazi. Nope not brainwashed there.

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Paul Markham

Freedom of Speech is a right some want to deny us.

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pimpmaster9000

what a load of bullshit...you can make your own website/platform and "free speak" all you want...you just cant use other peoples platforms for it...godaddy dont want to host you? well tough cheese...youtube wont let you bank? well tough cheese...

oh and if so many platforms refuse to associate with you then maybe there is something wrong with YOU?...

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beerptrol

This coming from the biggest brainwashed cuck! The truth hurts. There is no grey area. You support the alt right you are a nazi lover.

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bronco67

Those big websites are ultimately private businesses and are doing to Nazis what society in general does to them and for good reason...they're getting marginalized. Just like if you (Matt26z) was at a party and started ranting about how the white race is in danger from other ethnic groups and blah blah blah. The host would either kick you out of the party or the other guests would walk out of your general vicinity so they don't have to listen to the vile anti-social crap coming out of your stupid face hole. Then you would go find other like-minded Nazis and hang out in the basement of your mom's house and talk shit and do nothing.

So there is no right to free speech online, to answer your moronic question. Private businesses don't fall under the purview of the constitution.

So do you only act this way online, or do you at least have the nuts to show up at something like a Charlottesville rally with your tiki torch and red hat? Those guys were a bunch of shitty losers for sure, but at least they left the house for their racism.

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MiamiBoyz

That is not correct at all. Supporting your own is based in evolution. You support your group as they have an advantage and access to the most resources and are therefore more likely to survive to pass along your family, tribe, races - genes.

Can't you get the concept? It is right in front of your faces. It is natural and actually a beautiful thing. You fear it because you can not control it. It is out of your hands. You are either on the winning team or the losing team - there is only one winner.

Don't matter if you get it or not however because it IS nature and the way all animals exist and fight for limited resources. Just look at the success of Jews and whites. All the proof you need is right in front of you - OPEN YOUR EYES

beerptrol

Funny how you point to nature and evolution...but go against it when it suits you

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pimpmaster9000

complete bullshit LOL...you are just putting greed in a fancy wrapping...humans have evolved and do not need to kill off the weak to survive...we are not animals LOL

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VRPdommy

Freedom of Speech is just fine until it infringes on the rights of others.
I'm all for Free Speech. But it is not clearly defined.
In today's political world, to some, it means that you should be able to say whatever you want to whoever you want whenever you want.

NOT SO.
The supreme Court has equated money to free speech. Making a big mess of things.

For it is anonymous free speech that is breaking the back of this nation.
For it is now legal for a foreign power to pump money into a campaign anonymously and change a election under the terms of free speech.
While internally, it happens the same with corporations.

So if we are to have free speech, the owner of it should be known.
So, the 501(c) was created as a tool to bring anonymous money to the campaign. Look it up.

You can't be allowed to yell 'FIRE' in a theater anonymously.
If corporate America had to 'own-up' to their free speech, many would not do it.
That is exactly what they do not want.
They want to be able to control the crowd by yelling fire in the crowded theater and for nobody to know who yelled it.

That is today's reality in free speech. Until 'you' do something to change it, it will remain.