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Old 09-09-2017, 08:43 PM   #1
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The reason people don't evacute for hurricanes

Because no one knows the path wind will take. I have a feeling there are going to be a bunch of pissed off evacuees.
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Not sure I buy that, but I know if I am about to potentially lose everything, I am going down with a fight.
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Not sure I buy that, but I know if I am about to potentially lose everything, I am going down with a fight.
How do you fight?
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For me it's simple - If they say there is a hurricane coming, I'm leaving. Do what you can to secure your house, pack some clothes, hit the road and make a vacation out of it.
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For me it's simple - If they say there is a hurricane coming, I'm leaving. Do what you can to secure your house, pack some clothes, hit the road and make a vacation out of it.
Common sense bro.

Never assume others are as smart as you.

What is simple to us, is "debatable" to others.

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I dont know what I would do. The stress either way must be a killer right now.
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Common sense bro.

Never assume others are as smart as you.
And yet when your dad told you mexicans were bad, you agreed with him to this day.

I am almost certain you pulled your kid from school when they said spanish was a required course.
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For me it's simple - If they say there is a hurricane coming, I'm leaving. Do what you can to secure your house, pack some clothes, hit the road and make a vacation out of it.
Damn, I'd stay to live that!

I thought about flying to Miami friday, to live it. GF didn't agree, what a pussy! (pund intended)

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Better to prepare for the worse and hope for the best. sounds like it's moving off course
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I read on the news, some guy from Florida said his house was build to resist category-5 hurricane, his house was built after hurricane Andrew and he said that are some construction standards that needed to be enforced with new buildings. Maybe some people think that it's not going to be so bad and they stick around...
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I recently saw a piece that talked about how a lot of people don't leave because they can't afford to. If you don't have somewhere to stay or you can't get to a shelter, you have to get a hotel, buy food, water, etc. and it can be expensive even if you are staying somewhere fairly cheap.
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Not sure I buy that, but I know if I am about to potentially lose everything, I am going down with a fight.
There is nothing you can do to save your house/stuff in the house that you can't do from 500 miles away. The only difference is if the house gets destroyed and you are in it, you very well may go with it.
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There is nothing you can do to save your house/stuff in the house that you can't do from 500 miles away. The only difference is if the house gets destroyed and you are in it, you very well may go with it.
Exactly...
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I recently saw a piece that talked about how a lot of people don't leave because they can't afford to. If you don't have somewhere to stay or you can't get to a shelter, you have to get a hotel, buy food, water, etc. and it can be expensive even if you are staying somewhere fairly cheap.
The majority of middle class Americans live paycheck to paycheck. If you have $300 to your name this week in Southern Florida, WWYD? The Trump administration, well....
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I recently saw a piece that talked about how a lot of people don't leave because they can't afford to. If you don't have somewhere to stay or you can't get to a shelter, you have to get a hotel, buy food, water, etc. and it can be expensive even if you are staying somewhere fairly cheap.
I am watching friends that are sticking it out and money isn't an issue to any of them.
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I am watching friends that are sticking it out and money isn't an issue to any of them.
I never suggested everyone who doesn't evacuate is doing so because of money. I just said some of them are. I'm sure there are people choosing not to leave for a variety of reasons.
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The Trump administration, well....
You just can not resist the urge to stir the pot.
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For me it's simple - If they say there is a hurricane coming, I'm leaving. Do what you can to secure your house, pack some clothes, hit the road and make a vacation out of it.
Exactly this
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For me it's simple - If they say there is a hurricane coming, I'm leaving. Do what you can to secure your house, pack some clothes, hit the road and make a vacation out of it.
Most hurricanes are really not a big deal, but you have to understand the area you live as well as your house. Where Im from on the east coast, its fairly high above sea level so storm surges arent much of an issue. Sure certain areas around there flood, but its not like Houston or NOLA flooding..

As for the winds its usually not that big of a deal up to a cat 3. In the house I grew up in, that place would take a cat 4 storm and ask for more. It was poured concrete walls with built in shutters and a flat concrete roof. This was a house mind you, it was built by a builder back in the 70s as a test for a hurricane proof house but the builder ended up taking the design up to Alaska and building there because it was insulated so well, it was like a igloo cooler.

We took a direct hit as a kid from Hurricane David with zero damage to that house. Ive also stayed through a few cat 3 storms in Daytona Beach. Knowing the area I knew there was no flood risk and again the building was old school thick as hell concrete walls.

The problem is all these cheap ass cracker box homes made out of thin cement blocks or particle board are death traps. Thats most houses these days. The older concrete block homes were much stronger because before everyone got so fucking cheap, they would pour the walls solid.

It really just depends on your house and the area. Once you been though a few you get the idea.. Now a direct hit from a cat 5 hell yeah Id run.. Cat 4 Id most likely go as well but it depends on the house/area..
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I don't know what's worse waiting for a fire to burn you out or a hurricane destroy your home. seems like this year has been terrible for everybody
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Most hurricanes are really not a big deal, but you have to understand the area you live as well as your house. Where Im from on the east coast, its fairly high above sea level so storm surges arent much of an issue. Sure certain areas around there flood, but its not like Houston or NOLA flooding..

As for the winds its usually not that big of a deal up to a cat 3. In the house I grew up in, that place would take a cat 4 storm and ask for more. It was poured concrete walls with built in shutters and a flat concrete roof. This was a house mind you, it was built by a builder back in the 70s as a test for a hurricane proof house but the builder ended up taking the design up to Alaska and building there because it was insulated so well, it was like a igloo cooler.

We took a direct hit as a kid from Hurricane David with zero damage to that house. Ive also stayed through a few cat 3 storms in Daytona Beach. Knowing the area I knew there was no flood risk and again the building was old school thick as hell concrete walls.

The problem is all these cheap ass cracker box homes made out of thin cement blocks or particle board are death traps. Thats most houses these days. The older concrete block homes were much stronger because before everyone got so fucking cheap, they would pour the walls solid.

It really just depends on your house and the area. Once you been though a few you get the idea.. Now a direct hit from a cat 5 hell yeah Id run.. Cat 4 Id most likely go as well but it depends on the house/area..
Daytona beach is so ugly a hurricane just improves it. How could you even tell? A collection of shitty dirty yellow cement squares vs a wet collection of shitty dirty yellow cement squares.
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Daytona beach is so ugly a hurricane just improves it. How could you even tell? A collection of shitty dirty yellow cement squares vs a wet collection of shitty dirty yellow cement squares.
The Hurricanes and dumb dumbs are what killed Daytona Beach.. That year there were 3 hurricanes in a row to hit that area. The dumb dumb local govt had a hard on for trying to turn DB into a retirement version of South Beach..

When the hurricanes hit, they condemned all the tourist trap stores, beach side hotels ect..ect.. Their big plan was to have investors come in to steal up the condemned properties cheap or using eminent domain to steal them.. Then build shitloads of condos..

All was going to plan until the Bush housing market crash happened and all the investors and buyers went bye bye.. What was left was a bunch of half destroyed buildings with a town that looked like it belonged in a 3rd world country, who had run away all it's big tourism events..
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Jan,jab, left hook works great against hurricane 5s but if it's a 4 do an uppercut! Have luck!
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My grandparents lived on Biscaya Island, Surfside (next to Miami beach) c. 1960's During hurricane season they shuttered up the house, went back to NYC and visited my aunt for a month who lived in the city then moved to Great Neck on Long Island.

The Florida house got flooded and damaged a few times as it was right on smallish island surrounded by water.

Basically, they GFO every year for tornado season.
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Because no one knows the path wind will take. I have a feeling there are going to be a bunch of pissed off evacuees.
Yeah you are right. I am currently in Miami Beach for this hurricane. The people I know who did leave and sit in traffic for 10 + hours are now going to be in the direct path of this thing and have nowhere else to go (So yeah, pissed). Some are even trying to drive back to Miami. You basically have 0 gas left in florida + no more hotel roms at this point. You need to drive to deep georgia at this point and how?

my thoughts on staying are, I am in a protected building and I'd rather get hit first and be done with it first, then try to outrun this shit and be stuck in unfamiliar surroundings far from home. Not too mention trying to get back to Miami with all the shit on the road and the millions of agitated people trying to drive back also.
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The Hurricanes and dumb dumbs are what killed Daytona Beach.. That year there were 3 hurricanes in a row to hit that area. The dumb dumb local govt had a hard on for trying to turn DB into a retirement version of South Beach..

When the hurricanes hit, they condemned all the tourist trap stores, beach side hotels ect..ect.. Their big plan was to have investors come in to steal up the condemned properties cheap or using eminent domain to steal them.. Then build shitloads of condos..

All was going to plan until the Bush housing market crash happened and all the investors and buyers went bye bye.. What was left was a bunch of half destroyed buildings with a town that looked like it belonged in a 3rd world country, who had run away all it's big tourism events..
That seems like a reasonable explanation. They certainly couldn't make it any worse.
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My cousin lives in Bonita Springs, which is near Naples - and seems to be where the hurricane will land. She lives in a trailer but has relocated to a "hotel". They just lost power. They've lost their house before to hurricanes; I don't understand why they stay.
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Its so easy to say your leaving but when reality hits its too late.

Rather be in a hurricane in my house than in a car stuck on the highway with 2 million other people.
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Yeah you are right. I am currently in Miami Beach for this hurricane. The people I know who did leave and sit in traffic for 10 + hours are now going to be in the direct path of this thing and have nowhere else to go (So yeah, pissed). Some are even trying to drive back to Miami. You basically have 0 gas left in florida + no more hotel roms at this point. You need to drive to deep georgia at this point and how?

my thoughts on staying are, I am in a protected building and I'd rather get hit first and be done with it first, then try to outrun this shit and be stuck in unfamiliar surroundings far from home. Not too mention trying to get back to Miami with all the shit on the road and the millions of agitated people trying to drive back also.
Stay safe, make some videos
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Here is the problem, the average working stiff is working pay check to pay check. When you have a hurricane like this coming the employer doesn't say, ok guys the hurricane is gonna be here on Saturday so we are shutting down starting Thursday so you can safely evacuate. No the employers expect the employees to stay working until Fri 5pm like any normal business day, which leaves the average working stiff no time to actually evacuate.

Then you have the elderly who large amounts live on just social security and might not have the oney or even a car..
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Yeah you are right. I am currently in Miami Beach for this hurricane. The people I know who did leave and sit in traffic for 10 + hours are now going to be in the direct path of this thing and have nowhere else to go (So yeah, pissed). Some are even trying to drive back to Miami. You basically have 0 gas left in florida + no more hotel roms at this point. You need to drive to deep georgia at this point and how?

my thoughts on staying are, I am in a protected building and I'd rather get hit first and be done with it first, then try to outrun this shit and be stuck in unfamiliar surroundings far from home. Not too mention trying to get back to Miami with all the shit on the road and the millions of agitated people trying to drive back also.
That was just dumb on their part. Were they all new to FL? Anyone who's been though these storms should know its a very fluid thing as to the path they take. If you are going to bother to evacuate, you dont just go to another part of Florida.. You get out of the state or at least go up to the pan handle.

I mean for fucks sake, they knew this strom was 300-400 miles across, FL is 150 miles across, its not rocket science to understand everywhere in the state is gonna get hit,. People just moving to the other side of the state, clearly did not think things through very well.

I mean shit they said the size of Irma could hold 3 hurricane Andrews.. Anyway, good luck in Miami my ass in in Louisiana..
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Over the past 40 years living in Tampa, this is the first time I've evacuated. Good luck to everyone hunkering down.
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