NRA slams Obama's legalization of bump fire stocks

[Matt 26z]

A lot of blood on the hands of Obama in Vegas. That's for damn well sure....



?The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations,? the NRA and its lobbying arm said in a joint statement.

?Despite the fact that the Obama administration approved the sale of bump fire stocks on at least two occasions, the National Rifle Association is calling on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) to immediately review whether these devices comply with federal law,? it said.

NRA backs 'bump stock' ban, Trump open to restrictions - Washington Times

[mineistaken]

Thanks, Obummer.

[Fat Panda]

rofl, thanks obama for my 5 bump stocks. this is amazing!
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[directfiesta]

circle jerk of idiot ....

[Fat Panda]

nra coming out against bump stocks is music to my ears

the 4 i ordered mon shipped wed

goin be a huge roi

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

circle jerk of idiot ....

Who legalized bump fire stocks?

It wasn't Republicans, idiot.


Another thing is that the Democrats had all the power to do another assault weapons ban under Obama when they controlled congress...... but they chose not to. Why do you think that is????

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by Fat Panda

nra coming out against bump stocks is music to my ears

the 4 i ordered mon shipped wed

goin be a huge roi

They are flying off of GunBroker at $500-$800 BIN. Those left to auction seem to be $1,000ish. Some higher.

Will go higher as the panic buyers increase.

[Fat Panda]

in couple weeks i bet youll be able to make your own bump stock

all youll need is 3d printer and a spring

https://defdist.org/

[ruff]

The NRA blaming Obama, what a hoot! And all the morons and idiots believe it. The gospel from the NRA.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Who legalized bump fire stocks?

It wasn't Republicans, idiot.


Another thing is that the Democrats had all the power to do another assault weapons ban under Obama when they controlled congress...... but they chose not to. Why do you think that is????

I assume you know the difference between '' legalizing '' and not '' banning them '' ....

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

I assume you know the difference between '' legalizing '' and not '' banning them '' ....

Obama reviewed them and found they did not violate the automatic restriction.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Obama reviewed them and found they did not violate the automatic restriction.

Why lie?

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Why lie?

Because I can back my "lies" up with actual documentation

https://www.scribd.com/document/3606...pon#from_embed

[Fat Panda]

lol obama = worlds #1 gun salesmen

motherfucker has so much blood on his hands its unimaginable

not to mention his countless war crimes, drone strikes, and such

guy belongs in the hague

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Because I can back my "lies" up with actual documentation

https://www.scribd.com/document/3606...pon#from_embed

There is no '' Obama '' there .... you really are sick people ....

He did ÙNOT legalize them, as you posted ...

You are FAke news, A LIAR.

[VRPdommy]

They were a add-on device and not a firearm themselves and the Obama admin knew that is how the courts would see it.
By themselves, they don't fit the definition of a firearm.

The President is only the enforcer of the law. Congress makes the law.

But it remains to be seen if we actually get 'A LAW' concerning the bump stocks.
And if we do, I wonder what the trade-off will be in the actual legislation.

The only reason the NRA is taking the position they have is to be on top of it to control the outcome for they fear much worse legislation for them is possible and likely. It's the cheap and quick option for them and keeps their lobby forces intact.

[Rochard]

It's insane that "bump stocks" was ever legal.

It's also insane that assault rifles are legal too.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

A lot of blood on the hands of Obama in Vegas. That's for damn well sure....



“The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations,” the NRA and its lobbying arm said in a joint statement.

“Despite the fact that the Obama administration approved the sale of bump fire stocks on at least two occasions, the National Rifle Association is calling on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) to immediately review whether these devices comply with federal law,” it said.

NRA backs &#39;bump stock&#39; ban, Trump open to restrictions - Washington Times

You're a stupid fuck. Jesus you are fucking dumb.. The NRA and Republidumbs in congress both coming out on the same day claiming they are ok to ban bump stocks is obvious back room deal to try to make it seem they did something..

They know after this shooting that they can't hide behind the 2st amendment. So they are trying obvious backroom deal to give something in a high profile way to attempt to claim they are willing to do something.. even if it's meaningless. The best part is they try to blame Obama so dumb fucks like you buy it..

Take away the bump stock and the same attack can happen just as easily.. Hell the guns shown in the pictures didn't even have bump stocks. In fact, it's not even been confirmed he used bumpstock but rather he just had a few guns out of the 40 which had them..

Bumpstock should be illegal, but it's obvious low hanging fruit that republitards & NRA are willing to cave on in order to stop any meaningful gun laws.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by VRPdommy

They were a add-on device and not a firearm themselves and the Obama admin knew that is how the courts would see it.
By themselves, they don't fit the definition of a firearm.

The President is only the enforcer of the law. Congress makes the law.

But it remains to be seen if we actually get 'A LAW' concerning the bump stocks.
And if we do, I wonder what the trade-off will be in the actual legislation.

The only reason the NRA is taking the position they have is to be on top of it to control the outcome for they fear much worse legislation for them is possible and likely. It's the cheap and quick option for them and keeps their lobby forces intact.

It's classic case of "blame Obama" so dumb dumbs like JoushaMo26z will run around the net posting links..

[TheDynasty]

Fucking Joke!

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by crockett

It's classic case of "blame Obama" so dumb dumbs like JoushaMo26z will run around the net posting links..

Nobody else see the bizarre juxtaposition of who the victims were and the new found liking for the tightening of gun control within the NRA ?

Kids get mowed down in their classrooms and the NRA say the teachers should be armed.

A gay nightclub gets hit - its the victims fault for not packing heat.

But when the victims are your core supporters, then all of a sudden the NRA want somthing done.

In the same week they are trying to legalise silencers.

You could not make it up.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by NewNick

Nobody else see the bizarre juxtaposition of who the victims were and the new found liking for the tightening of gun control within the NRA ?

Kids get mowed down in their classrooms and the NRA say the teachers should be armed.

A gay nightclub gets hit - its the victims fault for not packing heat.

But when the victims are your core supporters, then all of a sudden the NRA want somthing done.

In the same week they are trying to legalise silencers.

You could not make it up.

Yea it's why I said in that other topic that if that baseball field shooter had a better aim, we would of seen some actual meaningful legislation.

Right wing bats don't care about our country or its citizens. They only care when something affects them directly.

[Fat Panda]

hahaha lol...

so many guns in usa, 400-500 million

they are never going away

Constitution already won!

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by Fat Panda

lol obama = worlds #1 gun salesmen

motherfucker has so much blood on his hands its unimaginable

not to mention his countless war crimes, drone strikes, and such

guy belongs in the hague

He caused so many people to buy AR-15 guns (by constantly flirting with bans that never happened) that today you can get them as cheap as $400 brand new.

[Fat Panda]

ban all guns today. dont care

already 400-500 million guns in usa

3d printed guns here

you anti-gun fucks already lost

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by crockett

Take away the bump stock and the same attack can happen just as easily..

Wrong.

So wrong.

The Obama stocks allowed him to fire at a high rate before someone came to stop him. He had mere minutes to fire and he maximized that time by using the Obama stocks. Take away the Obama stocks and he is limited to individual pulls of the trigger with his finger.

[sicone]

But I thought Obama was coming to take everyone's guns? Pick an argument and stick with it.

Obama should have banned belts as well....

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Wrong.

So wrong.

The Obama stocks allowed him to fire at a high rate before someone came to stop him. He had mere minutes to fire and he maximized that time by using the Obama stocks. Take away the Obama stocks and he is limited to individual pulls of the trigger with his finger.

Not even worth argueing with your dumbass.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Well, the congress had (258 -3) days and counting, to have reversed Obama's decision AND ACTED IF THEY THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT. Obviously, no one cared until after the fact.

This is just like a new CP law -- pretty hard to justify a vote against a bump-stock triggers prohibition NOW. Too bad 59 people had to die in a mass murder scenario for this prohibition to happen. Tell it to their families -- regardless of their political persuasion. A very sad irony has occurred in Las Vegas -- indeed ...

[Rochard]

I'm sorry, was there ever an attempt by anyone to out law these before the shooting? Did any of them even know about this before the shooting? I'm guessing no on both.

[kane]

I'm sure it will be simple to go back and find where the NRA was opposed to these things in 2010 when the ATF said they were legal.

[MrBottomTooth]

Lol at Obama stocks. That would be amazing if everyone started calling them that now.

[pimpmaster9000]

The NRA is blaming somebody...that is an impossible level of irony...new level unlocked...high score achieved...

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

The NRA is blaming somebody...that is an impossible level of irony...new level unlocked...high score achieved...

The NRA is fucking brilliant.

When I was a kid, the NRA did shooting classes and safety classes with rifles. Then they sold us shooting gloves and yellow tinted shooting glasses. Somewhere along the line they changed how we think about firearms - about assault rifles. They tell us that these riles are "semi automatic rifles". Bullshit. A "semi automatic rifle" is a long rifle, the kind you hunt with. An AR15 is an assault rifle. It's an assault rifle that is semi automatic.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Fat Panda

rofl, thanks obama for my 5 bump stocks. this is amazing!
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You are assuming they will not ban them outright.. I will laugh my ass off if you fools go buying them up and then they are made outright illegal and you lose your money..

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Rochard

The NRA is fucking brilliant.

When I was a kid, the NRA did shooting classes and safety classes with rifles. Then they sold us shooting gloves and yellow tinted shooting glasses. Somewhere along the line they changed how we think about firearms - about assault rifles. They tell us that these riles are "semi automatic rifles". Bullshit. A "semi automatic rifle" is a long rifle, the kind you hunt with. An AR15 is an assault rifle. It's an assault rifle that is semi automatic.

It was when they stopped being a origination which catered around gun safety and became a gun manufacturer's lobby firm.. Fuck the NRA, they are scumbags.. They don't give a shit about gun safety, just getting those payments from the gun manufactures..

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by Rochard

An AR15 is an assault rifle.

No military in the world conducts assaults using a semi-auto AR-15.

Therefore, it is not an assault rifle.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by kane

I'm sure it will be simple to go back and find where the NRA was opposed to these things in 2010 when the ATF said they were legal.

Oh yea you mean logic and stuff.. Dumb dumb right wing gun nuts don't understand logic..

[Matt 26z]

RIFLE




ASSAULT RIFLE

[Steve Rupe]

Originally Posted by Rochard

The NRA is fucking brilliant.

When I was a kid, the NRA did shooting classes and safety classes with rifles. Then they sold us shooting gloves and yellow tinted shooting glasses. Somewhere along the line they changed how we think about firearms - about assault rifles. They tell us that these riles are "semi automatic rifles". Bullshit. A "semi automatic rifle" is a long rifle, the kind you hunt with. An AR15 is an assault rifle. It's an assault rifle that is semi automatic.

It is a semi automatic rifle period. An assault rifle is full automatic by definition. I do not know of any Army this day in age that uses semi automatic rifles.

[VRPdommy]

The ATF and DOJ made a determination in 2010 that they were not illegal under the current law. They did not negate law or make law. They can't do their job and prosecute a law that does not exist.

Meaning if someone wanted to make a law, they could. But they could not prosecute under existing laws. Since they were not a firearm, they were a part. Much as the parts are made and sold to convert a AR-15 to a fully automatic weapon without some crazy contraption, just replace a part. Who will go after those parts ? Probably will not be covered under any legislation we get.

MAKING LAWS IS CONGRESSIONAL WORK ! as per the constitution - read it !

[Steve Rupe]

Originally Posted by VRPdommy

The ATF and DOJ made a determination in 2010 that they were not illegal under the current law. They did not negate law or make law. They can't do their job and prosecute a law that does not exist.

Meaning if someone wanted to make a law, they could. But they could not prosecute under existing laws. Since they were not a firearm, they were a part. Much as the parts are made and sold to convert a AR-15 to a fully automatic weapon without some crazy contraption, just replace a part. Who will go after those parts ? Probably will not be covered under any legislation we get.

MAKING LAWS IS CONGRESSIONAL WORK ! as per the constitution - read it !

Exactly and President Obama had nothing to do with the decision that was made at the time. In addition there are multiple other legal devices on the market that for all practical purposes turn a semi into a full automatic.

[Matt 26z]

This thread is just sad. I'm truly sorry I even made it.

Gun control nuts didn't care about guns when Obama and Dems were in power.

You are all domesticated morons.

[ruff]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

This thread is just sad. I'm truly sorry I even made it.

Gun control nuts didn't care about guns when Obama and Dems were in power.

You are all domesticated morons.

Well you are a major fucktard. You don't even know your facts especially about gun stocks. Since they can't be regulated as firearms dipshit what exactly did Obama do? But of course for dimwits like you it always going to be Obama's fault. You're sucking the NRA cock right now.

This shit happened on tRump's watch, not Obama's. You need to get smarter because you're plain stupid.

Don't come here and parrot some shit you read in your alt-right bible blog. You are an amateur.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Wrong.

So wrong.

The Obama stocks allowed him to fire at a high rate before someone came to stop him. He had mere minutes to fire and he maximized that time by using the Obama stocks. Take away the Obama stocks and he is limited to individual pulls of the trigger with his finger.

Or he can just attach a rubber band. You do NOT need a bump stock to bump fire a gun.



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[Paul Markham]

Any firearm that's capable of being adapted to function as to fire automatically shouldn't be in hands of the citizens.

[VRPdommy]

As a legal matter,
I'm having a hard time understanding the difference in forcing the allowance of a firearm sale to the mentally deranged but a legal citizen,
and prohibiting selling beer or cigarettes to a legal citizen 18 - 21 years old who is not mentally deranged.

One or both of these is wrong if we are to have equal treatment under the law and it is enforced under the same principles to all people.

The point is we do discriminate when it comes to health and safety but not equally. And the federal government has the ability to regulate interstate commerce.
So said the Supreme Court.

[Barry-xlovecam]

VRPdommy are you an American citizen?

Whether you like it or not (many do not) the 2nd Amendment guarantees a citizen's right to posses firearms -- the courts have made lots of precedence of this.

There is no constitutional right for ordinary civilians (not in the military (or state militia)) to possess certain weapons that can be used in warfare or mass killings.

Congress can legislate reasonable gun control laws that ARE constitutional, Presidents can sign the bills into law, and if constitutional, the courts will uphold the law.

That is the way it works -- politics aside.

Alcohol and Cigarettes kill a LOT more people than guns do. But in America you can self-destruct legally like everywhere in the world. The age restriction is only an attempt to allow *responsible* adults to use Alcohol and Cigarettes

[Steve Rupe]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Any firearm that's capable of being adapted to function as to fire automatically shouldn't be in hands of the citizens.

In the US, ultimately, only nine people have the authority to make that determination and they are the nine justices of the supreme court. Thus far they disagree with you.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

A lot of blood on the hands of Obama in Vegas. That's for damn well sure....

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Yes, because everyone knows presidents dictate gun regulations. They have absolute control on what is legalized and all they have to do is sign some documents and poof! they are changed! It's not like they have to convince another section or multiple sections of government to push forward there views. I recall when Bill Clinton was in office, i remember it clearly. He abolished all weapons his first day in office! he removed fire arms from everyone and guns were gone! then the evil george bush brought them back again!

Right? that's how it works?

No president or any elected official can make changes that a few lunatics, much like yourself, will find workarounds or ways to bend the rules so they can kill many with semi automatics as long as they are readily available. In fact, the only reason bump stocks even exist is the fact they banned fully automatics in the first place.

oh and Fat Panda? nobody is buying your bullshit...