Business Drop in traffic ?

[celandina]

Did anybody notice a drop in traffic in the last week or so? Another Google update? Or did Trump broke the Internet?

I am down about 20 %....

[nomyenx]

I'm down 90% from mid xxxx organic.. But that's because I switched to https.. (I think..) but before that I actually saw that my organic went up (10/15%) 3/4 days ago a bit before i made the switch to see it dropped to almost nothing

[Smart Fred]

You need to know which keywords results send you the traffic and on which you have lost some places. If you didn't change anything from two weeks and expericence a loss on all keywords, it's surely due to a Google update.

[topadult]

There was a Google update some days ago.
https://www.seroundtable.com/google-...ter-24500.html
Many sites got hit ...

[menxzy]

I lost traffic since last month and this weeks almost all my keywords gone.
Now the visitor coming from direct link and socmed

[BigFurry]

Also experienced a big G drop earlier this week :/

But there must be winners too obviously.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by topadult

There was a Google update some days ago.
https://www.seroundtable.com/google-...ter-24500.html
Many sites got hit ...

Can you put Google in jail ?? for breaking the Internets ??? Can you fix it ? Maybe I should go digging thru my old e mails

Much thanks for the link and info

[celandina]

Originally Posted by BigFurry

Also experienced a big G drop earlier this week :/

But there must be winners too obviously.

If you find a winner please let me know maybe I'll ask Putin to fix it and if he says no,there is always Topadult

[BettyBoob1]

Yeah on the 17th of September there was on update I think. I have noticed significant drops in mid July, August and now this month.

The Fred update got me in March and I have slowly been cleaning things up and seeing organic traffic coming back.

I guess I need to work harder!

[thommy]

Originally Posted by BigFurry

Also experienced a big G drop earlier this week :/

But there must be winners too obviously.

doesn´t look like there are winners.
what i can see is that even number one positions (what are still number one) have less traffic.

i assume that have nothing to do with any algo update but with googles new background solution of "I m not a robot".

trying to connect over some well known anonymous proxies let googles site look white.

[celandina]

Can you elaborate a bit on the G I am not a robot BG solution??
Thanks
C.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by celandina

Can you elaborate a bit on the G I am not a robot BG solution??
Thanks
C.

well i can not 100% say if THIS is the case but here is what google changed in that:

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/201...-mouse-clicks/

that can cause that users using anonymous proxies will possbly wrong dedected.

another change i saw is in the safe search filter.

before you could switch this filter off even when you are not logged into any google solution. now you have to log in to switch it off.

and the most obvious for me is that google has obviously changed the results for some big (but unsharp) keys.

searching for phrases like "porn" or "xxx" brings a lot of results what have nothing to do with porn.

as the most international traffic is not coming from google itself but it is circling from site to site one single user with such a searchphrase would show up on 20 or 30 sites as a "user" - so imagine what happens when this fist one is not there anymore.

i assume that there are a few small circumstances falling together what are creating some kind of butterfly effect. if this effect was wanted or not will show the next few weeks. it would not be the first time that google made a change what had a huge effect in the 50th level of the chaos and they are changing back.

[thommy]

after a few days testing around i think i found the reason fro that drop in traffic.

as far as i see google made a change in their semantic. what means, that search keys what are not 100% recognizable as porn related will not show pornsites. also spelling errors (i.e. "rettube" or "pron") are seldom ending in porn results (exception is when domains are optimized on the spelling error).

for some reason this change does not effect all google DCs and domains.
i.e. it works already at google.de in german but not in google.ch and google.at in german (possibly because google makes a difference in the language definitions of german-de, german-at and german ch)

so i think you can see it hardly in your stats because the huge number of variations will not show such a key as top key but many of them as smaller keys.

[celandina]

Thanks Tommy it is obviously somewhat a mystery. I just hope it bounces back because I have no clue whom this "Google crap" helps. Its a fucking monopoly and the Gov. should break them up as as they did with Microsoft in 2000 , since they are breaching Sherman Act.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by celandina

Thanks Tommy it is obviously somewhat a mystery. I just hope it bounces back because I have no clue whom this "Google crap" helps. Its a fucking monopoly and the Gov. should break them up as as they did with Microsoft in 2000 , since they are breaching Sherman Act.

i don´t think that google really wants that. the problem is that every fucking country in the world wants to rule them and they are using this "unwanted contact with porn from underaged person".

google is forced to show more non explicit results (if the search phrase is not 100% porn)
to defense that complaints.

the future will show how the users will deal with that and how fast they are learning to use exact search terms.

as most of the international market´s traffic is not coming from search engines directly revenge now the circumstance that many sites optimized on blurred search terms like "sex", "grannies", "analsex" or "blondes".

this trend is not a new one - i noticed it already 10 years ago and it was just a question of time til it will hit harder (what is obviously now the case)

[NickBaer]

Maybe the millions in PR, Florida, Mexico wthout electricity, without homes?

[thommy]

Originally Posted by NickBaer

Maybe the millions in PR, Florida, Mexico wthout electricity, without homes?

nope - the drop is worldwide

[celandina]

After 10 days ( with NO changes on our side) most of the traffic came back, if not all, at least 15 % of the 25 % drop. I will keep you posted if it keeps up.

Plot thickens..?!

[NickBaer]

What is your % of Bot traffic?

[thommy]

Originally Posted by celandina

After 10 days ( with NO changes on our side) most of the traffic came back, if not all, at least 15 % of the 25 % drop. I will keep you posted if it keeps up.

Plot thickens..?!

you mean in general or especially traffic from google ?

[celandina]

Originally Posted by thommy

you mean in general or especially traffic from google ?

About 1/2 of the loss is direct and another 1/2 is referral traffic, have no clue if any of it it boots also have no clue where to find it in my GA

[celandina]

Originally Posted by NickBaer

What is your % of Bot traffic?

See my post above I have no clue how to tell what is boot and what is real

[NickBaer]

Originally Posted by celandina

See my post above I have no clue how to tell what is boot and what is real

Here's a little PHP I have in my footer or copyright statement:

$date=date("YmdHis");
$Users_IP_address = $_SERVER["REMOTE_ADDR"];
$ref = $_SERVER['HTTP_REFERER'];
$qry = $_SERVER['QUERY_STRING'];
$ThisPage=$_SERVER['PHP_SELF'];
$usr = $_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT']

$FWwritethis = $date.', '. $ThisPage.', '.$Users_IP_address.', '.$ref.', '.$qry.'^ '.$usr.PHP_EOL;
$fp = fopen('myfilename.txt', 'a');
fwrite($fp, $FWwritethis.PHP_EOL);
fclose($fp);



The $_SERVER[...] built-in feature is really great!

You can then "read" myfilename.txt from a webpage link you create, or your "files" or FTP directory. I create a new file when it reaches a pre-determined filesize. It is just text.

Most bots or spiders or crawlers, put their name in the $_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT']. Some put where to get more info about the bot.

You can then add IPs to your .htaccess.

Deny from 5.9.85.245

Because I could read that it is a bot: 20170908000805, /DVD-Detail-DL.php, 5.9.85.245, , id=848^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; BLEXBot/1.0; +BLEXBot) |


Snippet from that log file:

20170901005526, /DVD-Detail-DL.php, 207.46.13.146, , id=277^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |
20170901005527, /DVD-Detail-DL.php, 157.55.39.152, , id=7^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |
20170901005527, /DVD-Detail-DL.php, 157.55.39.152, , id=7^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |
20170901011016, /DVD-Detail-TD.php, 77.75.78.165, , id=541^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; SeznamBot/3.2; +Seznam.cz web search | Seznam Nápov?da) |
20170901011016, /DVD-Detail-TD.php, 77.75.78.165, , id=541^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; SeznamBot/3.2; +Seznam.cz web search | Seznam Nápov?da) |
20170901011053, /index.php, 144.217.240.34, , ^ Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1 |
20170901011055, /index.php, 144.217.240.34, http://gay-dvds-for-women-and-men.com/, ^ Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1 |
20170901011302, /DVD-Detail-DL.php, 207.46.13.146, , id=489^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |
20170901011302, /DVD-Detail-DL.php, 207.46.13.146, , id=489^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |
20170901012019, /titlesbyone.php, 157.55.39.152, , FindStar=Bruce^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |
20170901012019, /titlesbyone.php, 157.55.39.152, , FindStar=Bruce^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |
20170901013412, /indexAL.php/DVD-Detail-TD.php, 180.76.15.159, , id=1263^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Baiduspider/2.0; +http://www.baidu.com/search/spider.html) |
20170901014839, /indexAL.php/DVD-Detail-TD.php, 180.76.15.163, , id=589^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Baiduspider/2.0; +http://www.baidu.com/search/spider.html) |
20170901015022, /DVD-Detail-DL.php, 157.55.39.37, , id=1213^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |
20170901015022, /DVD-Detail-DL.php, 157.55.39.37, , id=1213^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |
20170901015522, /titlesbyone.php, 180.76.15.161, , FindStar=Ian^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Baiduspider/2.0; +http://www.baidu.com/search/spider.html) |
20170901015522, /titlesbyone.php, 180.76.15.161, , FindStar=Ian^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Baiduspider/2.0; +http://www.baidu.com/search/spider.html) |
20170901020312, /DVD-Detail-TD.php, 207.46.13.146, , id=1000^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |
20170901020312, /DVD-Detail-TD.php, 207.46.13.146, , id=1000^ Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) |

[NickBaer]

I've got sites with 90% Bots.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by NickBaer

I've got sites with 90% Bots.

I run the business. Everything else is done " ad hoc" externally, so your little PHP may as well be Mount Everest for me to climb

[topadult]

Hold your breath :-S
The update is not done yet :|
https://www.seroundtable.com/google-...ing-24532.html

[NickBaer]

Originally Posted by celandina

I run the business. Everything else is done " ad hoc" externally, so your little PHP may as well be Mount Everest for me to climb

What's your percent of BOT traffic? You might be deluding yourself as to "traffic".

[celandina]

Originally Posted by NickBaer

What's your percent of BOT traffic? You might be deluding yourself as to "traffic".

As I said yesterday, I do NOT have a clue and do not know where in my GA I can find it...., but my traffic is down again....

[celandina]

Originally Posted by topadult

Hold your breath :-S
The update is not done yet :|
https://www.seroundtable.com/google-...ing-24532.html

Thanks again and holy crap, fucking Google .....I am sure you are on top of it

.... Am off now to the casino, once I win, we will talk again

[celandina]

Coming back but slowly

[Barry-xlovecam]

If that is true -- much of SEO rumors is total horseshit -- I am blocking many server farms from one of my major affiliate sites just to keep the parasites out.

If Google is using what I consider a *parasite host server data center* then they are getting a 403. If googlebot comes from its legitimate IPs using its proper user-agent sig -- then it has access and sees the exact same thing a human would.

Come in like a thief in the night -- I shoot first and ask questions later

[NickBaer]

Originally Posted by celandina

As I said yesterday, I do NOT have a clue and do not know where in my GA I can find it...., but my traffic is down again....

Have you thought of asking your Hosting company representative?

You may learn that up to 90% of your "traffic" is BOTs. Or, you may not want to find that out, i.e. Delusional.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by NickBaer

Have you thought of asking your Hosting company representative?

You may learn that up to 90% of your "traffic" is BOTs. Or, you may not want to find that out, i.e. Delusional.

My conversion is about 1% and that has not changed , so if 90 % are bots then they are great in buying our streams

...i have also asked where ( maybe if) I can determine it from my GA.