and from where comes the traffic of the relations ?

the one who comes out from the last door HAD to be gone through the first door.
if you have nothing you can only exchange it with nothing.

google is the biggest traffic source in the world.
you can ignore it and open your own little circle - but you will end up with inbreeding traffic because "the market" means ALL BUDGETS from ALL buyers.
if you limit the number of buyers you limit the number of budgets.
with the same argument you could try to open an own private internet.

exploding thru the roof across my network :thumbsup

And what if the user who use bing earch egnine is more "simple"?
more simple it means it's easier to get a credit card to a hand?

let's think a little differently.
If he uses a standard search engine in the system.
If it's bing.
Probably uses a standard browser.
he probably does not use "adblocker".

does not know new apps, sites . etc.
Is such a user not ready to pay for access to adult content? faster and often.?
why not?

true - the users from bing ARE like that.
but that means they are

a. dumber = less income
b. fewer = much smaller market

believe me i would appreciate bing would be more important - i have MANY number 1
keys there.

but that is my WISH and not the reality.
it does not make sense to try changing the reality into my wish world.

it is much easier to watch in wich direction the river streams and build wishes on the reality.

i think we can not even count the number of tries in the past decade to kick google.
but their concept is too smart.

I remember how we laughed when they started. no one know how they can even survive but every step they made after adwords was logic. they simply analized and grow so broad without losing the view on the center of their construction.

google is for me one of the best marketing masterpieces in human history.

I can not see any competitor who can change that at present.
and i will not wait til this competitor might appear (or not appear) one day in a far future.
I better live with an "enemy" what i do understand (because i can assume the next steps) as to ask for a new one what will bring me new problems.

Here are Google's results for first page on respective keyword search.

https://imgur.com/a/uA8rR

As you can see, third result is a scraper website. Not to mention other results on page which seem very dubious, xvideos twice with almost same title?? And these results I check them for a while and are still same.

Btw, I've just looked for something mainstream related, some printer software. The 3d result was non working site. Out of 10 results, only 2 results were actually useful, rest were junk. When is Google's AI figuring it out this shit? 2030?

Imagine how much quality traffic is missed because of Google's playing.

Google is screwing porn sites. If you search for porn you should get fucking porn. Not some dumb news article, google books, or vice. It's a joke. Compare their results to Bing. Bing shows you the porn results you would expect to get. Bing's results are far superior to google when it comes to searching for porn. I feel like google's end game is to kill porn completely at some point. I hope it fucks them and people move to bing or a real competitor comes and takes a piece out of their ass.

i can´t see anything wrong with this result in regards to your search.

the results a logic and when the 3rd one is a scammer HOW can google know that?

also the the 2 results from xvideos are logic because these are 2 different urls with different content - seems to be 2 results from a serie called "DJ sexo porn" where
DJ sexo tube night show 06 and DJ sexo tube night show 10 is listet.

if you do not understand google you can not complain google for it.
and if your side is not there it just means that you did not understand google or the real SEO factors.

in my network we are getting every day aproximately 2 million uniques directly from google and except some sites with some mistakes in onpage SEO and data structure
not one domain lost traffic. after fixing this problems all are back and the networks is actually around 2,2 million uniques per day ONLY FROM GOOGLE.

Things are much more complicated but still pretty logical after you get into them. They can look random at some point but there is probably an explanation for it. To make it short, I've checked for sexo tube keyword. It has a low competition index and that means no enough quality results for that keyword. This is probably why you are seeing that site ranked high. Just give something more valuable to Google (onsite SEO) and obtain a few links and you will be there on the first page easily.(considering that you already have an established domain)

I believe that a starting point is wrong and that KW is not a good one (money making kw). It is a waste of time to target keyword having "only" 2900 searches per month on google.com (170 on google.co.uk).

Every case should be examined separately if you are seriously working on targeting a keyword. I've just run some more checks on your example keyword sexo tube to see top 10 competition and make a conclusion.

Sites currently ranked from #2 up to#6 don't have SEO techniques applied at all. Their onsite SEO score is total crap, averaging somewhere at 26 or so. The top-ranked ohsextube.com has on page optimization rate at 86.2 plus a good link profile. It is interesting, domain sexotube.com that has a perfect domain name actually has the lowest onsite optimization rate compared to the rest of the top 10 ranked sites at this point (USA google).

As usually, xvideos and xnxx have a good SEO score and they are working on probably every tube word combination out there.

Conclusion: if this keyword is not a part of some bigger plan, I believe it is a waste of time to compete for it. Still, with a site that is is not "just launched a few days ago", with a little work, it should be ranked on the first page.

I don't know if some of the sites ranked your site and was this just a random example.

90% of my traffic comes from google!

So I guess if xvideos makes same title with 01..02...10 with just a number changed, they should rank with all 10 I suppose. Btw, those videos are complete shit, it's a wonder how well users interact with those crap videos.

For the example I showed you, I am first, so that's not the problem. Problem is what comes after me. There are tons of scraper sites currently ranking very high.

Have you checked page 2? These are some results that I get:

https://imgur.com/a/xpDrD

exosexo - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8v...0zhcalKMIQITTg
I love my twelve boys. Please smile and have a wonderful day!

sexo animal - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tC9y5sKhGY

GOD CREATED SEX, AND HE SAW THAT IT WAS GOOD - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4laFtZ-e-M

Crea tu proyecto Tube - Google Books Result
https://books.google.ro/books?isbn=8483565498

I suppose Google knows best :winkwink:

So this is not about my personal war with Google, this is about delivering decent results and it's doing a terrible job for quite a while now and as someone pointed above, Bing offers much better results. True, not great, but still better compared to Google, at least in some searches I tested.

The fact that you are getting traffic doesn't mean that others are not affected. I get Google traffic too and I had even more. I have no problem to see better sites than mine ranking over me, but it's not so, I see complete junk over and over again and not just me.

In the past, when I was seeing such junk results, it was due to some algo being prepared to filter those. It was always so. Now, either they love these results or they are preparing a big update to come.

Absolutely agree.. We have about 50 sites and I have been consistently ranking them the last 5 years or so.. Since 6 months our google traffic severely dropped, 30-40%

Looking at the SERPS with quality tools like semrush ahrefs majestic anyone that has been monitoring the SERPS for certain keywords can see that they changed... For the worse.

Strange results, crappy sites non adult on adult keys all that.. Except of course for the authoritative sites like pornhub and xvids.. They make millions and google really wants them to keep making millions, fuck the small guy

Btw, I have a nice website with thousands of great unique titles. Want to know what comes after my site? Only scraper sites in Google, that copied entirely my website.

In Bing, my website appears and indeed one scraper site. But that's all, while Google shows a ton of them.

what you guys obviously ignore is the fight google have EVERY DAY with EVERY goverment and youth protecting group in the world about adult.

if someone enter the phrase "porn" it does not automatically mean that he is searching for porn content.
the arguments of this child protectors are that a child who heard about this word wants to know what it means - and this argument they can kill only when they insinuate
that any inaccurate search request that in case of doubt they were not made as search queries on porn content.

you guys don´t seem to know a lot about the power of the child protectors and porn haters around this planet. even google does not have the power to undermine that.
in germany i.e are many search engines who are delivering original results of the Google search. In not ONE of them you will find any porn content.
if they would do that they would be offline since many years because these companies are based in germany.

and sure these german officials know that google is still delivering the porn content and they do ALL to fine them for it.

look what happens in UK now and wait a bit how that will influence Google because they can not simply ignore countries laws on the long term.

google with all it´s power is not only a search engine. their market power makes them to the number one target of every single idiot who think that his rules are the one and only.

btw i doubt that anyone of you can eve see neutral google results and each one of you will see different results on same searchkeys in google.
ask an itialian if he see results in google.it on the search key "porno" and after that try it by yourself - even when you use a VPN from italy you will see results.

it is really VERY hard to see listings in google because the results are so individualized that a neutral ranking will not effect 99% of the google users because they will see something else.

if i search with a spanish VPN on google.es (i assume it was the google.es result you posted) i see only the first 3 results similar - everything else is COMPLETELY different as you on your. screenhshot - on the reuslt i get there there is not ONE of the sites from 4-10 to see.

you believe too much in the seo shit.

as i said our results went down from 2 million per day to aproximately 1,6 million. after a few changes we are at around 2,2 million uniques per day at the moment.

so this traffic is not gone - it is just somewhere else.
and as you can see in some answers of this thread i am not the only one who can see an INCREASE instead a decrease.

this is the result of the "gaussian equal distribution law" - the main base of the google algorythm logic.

I am not talking about general terms like porn, I can understand those are more general terms and need some adjustments in the SERPS..
And its almost impossible to rank on a single high volume keyword like that.. I am talking about full fledged adult terms with multiple words like i want to fuck tonight and hookup up for sex or whatever.. That is for people who want to find someone to fuck not for kids who want to know what it is.

And its really easy to see localised listings in google cause anyone who does SEO will know to use proper tools for that.. As I mentioned I use tools like semrush where you can compare the SERPS of each GEO, and I use proxies to double check those SERPS but i got to admit that semrush is pretty spot on with the results.

My Google traffic has also gone down ALOT since September. We're all in the same boat it seems.

Don't worry about it, if Google is closing it, some other search engine will start it.

There are cool Facebook groups, where you can join and post about your business.
Bottom line is you don't need to rely only on Google for website promotion like you did 10 years back.

The goos still send surfers but they *helpfuly* obscure the keywords/search terms. Those bastards have been doing that for years.

i have to rely on google because my biz is not 5 digit. Google brings me a huge few million revenue per year.
don´t think that i sit back and wait til something nicer comes up while i would lose millions.

i make money since 21 years in that biz by swimming with the stream of the river and not against it.

Yes but if you/your company is getting TWO MILLION hits from Google daily (or now 2.2) then guess what? You are a "big boy" that Google protects. You do not hear the big tubes complaining about SERPs, just the "little guys" like me and others in this thread. What if you got 20k daily hits? 10k daily hits? Not millions. When you get millions of hits from Google you are into the Law of Big Numbers and the effect is not the same.

Google is fucking the little Webmasters and companies. The strategy seems to be eliminate all but the top 5-10 "big players" in porn and fuck the rest of us.

nope you missunderstood - i have not ONE website who is doing this.
I am a trafficseller and the traffic comes in part from my websites and in other parts from a limited number of publishers what i am working with since many many years.

so this traffic comes usually from sites what have between 1000 and 100.000 visitors per day. but as i have access to all of these site´s analytics accounts and also coaching this guys in their search engine strategy i saw the mistaskes and saw the fixes.
and the fixes worked.

there are still not all sites in the network on the newest level but even with 80% on the newest level there is now MORE traffic from google as it was before.

and there are a lot of even smaller sites what made a HUGE jump because the sites on number 1 already can not go any higher and win traffic with higher position.

so in fact the win came from the SMALLER ones what shows me that google does not
want to fuck the small sites and webmasters.

or is there any unlogic in that ?

What were the fixes?

Google is changing shit all the time. They run the show.

i expected that question ;-)

but you understand for sure that i will not publish that.
but if you are good in observation you might find it by yourself. it is no magic (as it never was magic)

Ahh ok sorry, I misunderstood. So if you are a traffic broker then yes you would see trends across the spectrum. :)

I understand about traffic shifting, with some websites gaining traffic that the others have lost. I too would like to know "the fixes" but since I run more-or-less static paysites SEO probably would not work for me anyway. LOL

i will give you a hint:

STATIC = GOOD

Kudos for building a stable rev.

You may think small + small + small is still small, but the google ai KNOWs you are big.

loool if they would think that they would have bought me already.

but no - i am owning just a part of this sites.
and i own them only because i need my playground for giving advise to my publisher partners.

2,2 million per day is not such a big number.
we are doing fine and we are not really small but there are some much bigger guys around as we are.

i just do have more possibilities to look inside the network what delivers the traffic to me. that´s why i can possibly tell you a bit more from the so called "average".

all collegues i speak with (and who do not have such a deep view in the trafficsources as i have) told me that they lost traffic on many sites but won on others.
so the traffic is not gone - it has just changed the route.

the more generic the term, the more adult results have been filtered out by google. its been going on since a few years now. xxx, adult, porn, no keyword seems safe anymore even if its blatantly pornographic.

but most of these keywords while they have volume are not highest converting. so the flip side is that you'll get less traffic, but it will be much more targeted and you can focus on developing the site/content/copy/etc to optimize for people that already demonstrate a clear intent when coming into your site.

whats more worrying to me is that google has been experimenting with showing only 5 organic results on mobile. this will kill most smaller players that still get some organic traffic but dont dominate the top results.

That is the opposite of what SEO gurus have been saying for years now. They're always telling everyone to update frequently.

IMO, in this case STATIC = No scripts, databases etc... doesn't mean it's not updated.

Most sites including tubes use scripts and every blog uses a database.

Yep, but TPN said he runs "more-or-less static paysites", meaning he doesn't use any CMS or scripts, just static HTML pages, yet the sites can be still updated.

Uhmmm.... i haven't read all responses... But i thought this was common knowledge for years already? Who in their right mind would think it would be 'temporary algo shit'... It was obvious 3 years ago and it's still obvious now. I'm quite amazed this thread is from 2018, i thought it was a bump at first from years ago.

^^^ Truth

( For once )

Exactly. They are HTML pages (some are php) without a CMS on the Tours. (MAs have a custom CMS thanks to Woj.)

The Tours do have a single php script that displays the Bonus sites. That section updates when new sites are added. The text on the Tours doesn't change tho. Updates are done via HTML changes.

So as I said, more-or-less static. My new responsive designs will have a little more 'scripting' in terms of bells and whistles but, being responsive, I figured Google would like mobile-friendly more than the older designs.

Okay. I see what you are saying.

It's just that Thommy said, "Static=Good" ... yet Porn Nerd's static sites have lost traffic, my site is also static and has lost traffic, the tubes which aren't static have gained.

I guess I was coming at it from that angle.

Also to me 'static' means not auto-updating with scripts.
But anyway I don't think there is some magic secret to SEO, just correct and incorrect principles to follow.

forget about google.. lets trade traffic again... back in glorious 2000 years life style :pimp

Oh.. almost forgot that ..you guys are moaning about google traffic...
heres the icing on the cake.. Google Better Ads Standards bullshit... even worse to come.... prepare your ass for penetration, traffic will be ur last issue