Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22367826)

the yellow "soldiers of odin are fat lesbians with beards" line is holding perfectly...volume is as low as ladidas testosterone...that is very very low...


https://www.tradingview.com/x/KH4jrrWQ/

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22293583)

No... Theres no buyers...compare the last 3 bottoms and rebounds...lower and lower interest...multi year bear imo...

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 22369816)

Looks like doubters might get a nasty case of whiplash

Anyone locked in at the dip?

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22370006)

looks like the big boys don´t want to play this game anymore because the big banks made it much harder to use BTC for money laundering a few days ago.
as soon as the big money is gone you play against yourself.

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22370023)

if you are so sure about BTC going to shit etc, my question is: how much money you made on it, by buying contracts for its lower price ?
You talk about BTC going lower and being a scam since like one year, I bet that you made fortune already on your bets...Am i right ?
Or maybe you just talk, and dont trust yourself and your prognosis enough to put your money on it ?

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22370198)

nope i NEVER paid a bitcoin.
i found a few on an old disc last year when i was experimenting around with mining in the start days when BTC was less than 1 cent.

i sold them and fine. but i would never play such a obvious game seriously



i wrote that already when BTC was on the way up. and I also knew WHY it goes up.
but I could not tell you when the big crash comes. only THAT it comes.



this is not a market. it is a money loundry and it only worked because so many people did not realize that.

and yes i also see a future in crypto but not in this private shit. it will be the dream of every government because when this is here you will never make 1 dollar without paying tax.
this is the 100% control system and the governments let it run because this is the ne and only way to get this back money back in the the tax circle.

now a few trillion are washed already and they will first start to regulate it (started already a few days ago) and then they will force you to use it because real money is gone.

and then ? against what will you compare it than if there is nothing else than that ?

was it worth to sell your freedom ?

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22370214)

1) it is a market, regardless if some dudes were cleaning their money there or not. you can make money or lose money on market, thats the market principle.
2) I kind of agree with your dystopian point of view. however, dont forget that there is something like Monero and other privacy coins that are UNTRACEABLE by default.
3) GOLD, dried fish,vodka & AK 47 :)

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22370198)

nope i NEVER paid a bitcoin.
i found a few on an old disc last year when i was experimenting around with mining in the start days when BTC was less than 1 cent.

i sold them and fine. but i would never play such a obvious game seriously



i wrote that already when BTC was on the way up. and I also knew WHY it goes up.
but I could not tell you when the big crash comes. only THAT it comes.



this is not a market. it is a money loundry and it only worked because so many people did not realize that.

and yes i also see a future in crypto but not in this private shit. it will be the dream of every government because when this is here you will never make 1 dollar without paying tax.
this is the 100% control system and the governments let it run because this is the ne and only way to get this back money back in the the tax circle.

now a few trillion are washed already and they will first start to regulate it (started already a few days ago) and then they will force you to use it because real money is gone.

and then ? against what will you compare it than if there is nothing else than that ?

was it worth to sell your freedom ?

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 22370499)

How does a person not realize they're too dumb to spurt opinions?

Your idea of "trust in the gov, they're always right" is just retardation

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 22370519)

The guy that cashed out at 16K should be inducted into GFY's Hall of Fame . . .

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22370510)

I am the last person that trust them believe me.

but YOU seems to want that cybercurrency that can be controlled on every move it makes will replace real money.

and IF that day comes it is just a currency and nothing else.
no way to speculate on that more as it was always with currencies.

so WHAT EXACTLY did you win ?



WHAT lies and WHAT growth of bitcoin?

it is going back there where it came from.
the money washers got most of their black money already changed into white money - that´s all they wanted in the first step but now they did it even with profit. and from WHERE did this profit come ?

i think never anybody teached you WHAT money is and what it represents.

there was a nice ponzi a few years ago where someone made an adnetwork where only the members where able to click on ads and got paid for - and they got paid with ads what they could offer to the members. so all what happend was that people have been advertisers and customers at the same time.
a few of this idiots tried to refer me into this system and they have been mad with me when I told them that they will lose everything.
they said EXACTLY the same things to me you say.
now they lost all and the funny thing is: they are STILL mad with me because they think all would become good if I would not speak that negative.

you know how i call such people? MORONS !!!!

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 22370789)

Looks like the BUYING OPPORTUNITY IS GOING TO CLOSE as recovery seems imminent

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 22370748)

Look at yourself right now Thommy,
You are discussing bitcoin in a bitcoin thread... your agenda is already lost lol

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22370907)

do i have to understand what you mean ?

i think NO !!

the topic of this thread was

can bitcoin sustain over the 6000 mark and my answer was right from the start NO

so what you are talking about ?

so read again through this thread from the beginning and than tell me who was right and who was wrong.
then collect all the statements from all fairy tale believers and compare them with the actual situation and then tell me again that you honks know a shit of economy rules.

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22370908)

BITCOIN is 10 years old. at the beginning it was worth less than 1 usd. now its around 4500 usd.
ask yourself, do you consider it going up from 1 usd to 20 k (or 4.5) more OR less important than going down from 20 k to 4.5k usd ?
crypto market is here to stay. Binance had similar net profit in some months this year to Deutsche Bank.
Market goes up and down, the task of good traders is to make money on it !

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22370923)

what YOU does not seem to understand ist that this is not a market - it is a LOTTERY.

so please educate yourself about the difference between markets and lotteries.

all what happend here was a speculation that only depend on the fact that people believe it or not believe it. as soon the non-believers are out the value of bitcoin is zero.
but the value of a dollar or a euro will still be the same.

you will still get the same for 1 US but you will get fuck nothing for a bitcoin.

you can do the fucking same thing even with toilette paper or dog shit and it will work as long as people WANT to bet in this game.
so don´t tell me it is because of the blockchain technology - this is pure bullshit.

blockchain WILL survice I AM 100% SURE and I said that FROM THE FIRST MOMENT.

but you can not think that everybody can print it´s own currency.
THIS will NEVER happen.

so can we agree that this is just ONE MORE lottery ?

but please do not call it currency - it have fuck NOTHING to do with that.

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22370941)

1. you may also call it a lotery and gambling. Just like stock market, futures, forex, and others. Its a market and/ or lottery
2. 1 USD is worth just 1 USD. just like 1 btc = always 1 btc. by what USD is backed these days ? because surely not by number of goods produced and gold. I will tell by what: by military power and common BELIEF in US as a good country to do business. Just like EUR (excluding military power I guess...)
3. the only difference between crypto market and stock market is its volatily, being unregulated means also that its manipulated without no sanctions. up or down.

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22370964)

i give up.
do what you think is the best and i do the same.

you don´t understand about this things and it does not make sense to explain you something what is far from your imagination.

if you think stock market and crypto market is the same thing it shows me already that i am wasting time.

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22370991)

I said: its also market. less fundamentals in crypto, more emotions, speculation and believes.
but also market...

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22371100)

here is your "market", mr. supersmart

https://translate.google.de/translat...tml&edit-text=

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22371115)

If Tether will fail with huge scandal or exit scam, I can easily see BTC going for around 1-2k USD, unfortunately.

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22370964)

i give up.
do what you think is the best and i do the same.

you don´t understand about this things and it does not make sense to explain you something what is far from your imagination.

if you think stock market and crypto market is the same thing it shows me already that i am wasting time.

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 22371469)

thommy is the type when watching news on TV his brain is like a sponge, sucking up all disinformation as truth because he believes the people running the TV channels are the only ones in the world who do not have an agenda, when they're actually the ones with the biggest agenda in the world. TV has huge, huge power, especially before the internet, but even now they still have lots of power because of people like thommy who wrongfully see this old media as an authority. Well, they're not.

Every single one of his "opinions" are the exact same as the "opinion" the media tells us. Trump = bad. Obama the warlord = good. Anti-democratic EU = good. Illegal economic migrants = good. Open borders = good. Bitcoin = bad.

The people on top who run the banks are scared shitless of a decentralized cryptocurrency totally out of their control, so of course the media, which they run, will never be positive about it. The whole debt slavery and fake fiat money system is built by these people.

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22371231)

the blessed oracle has perfected a new trading method...it is called going short all the time :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Nitzer Ebb (Post 22371488)

Virtual short. Lets not get confused there.
Oracle is looking for condo investments priced at 1 bitcoin :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Serbocop, are you ready to show us your real estate portfolio? I recall there was a promise somewhere. And we all supposed to go "whaaaaaaaaaaah". :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 22371469)

The people on top who run the banks are scared shitless of a decentralized cryptocurrency totally out of their control, so of course the media, which they run, will never be positive about it. The whole debt slavery and fake fiat money system is built by these people.

Originally Posted by Smack dat (Post 22371445)

Time to buy guys!

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22370964)

i give up.
do what you think is the best and i do the same.

you don´t understand about this things and it does not make sense to explain you something what is far from your imagination.

if you think stock market and crypto market is the same thing it shows me already that i am wasting time.

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22371702)

I shorted at 4213 and closed the position just now at around 3771 @25x margin on bitmex...279% gain...the blessed oracle :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22371745)

What mechanism do you use to short? It looks like it is $4200 now

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22371751)

bitmex...they are a bearish exchange the price is always lower on bitmex for a few 100$...you can go long or short with margin up to 100x...go to testnet.bitmex.com and open a demo account and play around...they pay you 0.025% for opening a maker position but the down side is the split can be brutal...bitmex offers superior trading tools like conditional orders, trailing stops, margin and zero fee maker...

btw its not 4200 anywhere check the prices BTC just dumped another 10% :pimp

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22371702)

I shorted at 4213 and closed the position just now at around 3771 @25x margin on bitmex...279% gain...the blessed oracle :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents: