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just a punk · 12-11-2018, 11:36 PM

"Outlandish" encryption laws leave Australian tech industry angry and confused - Science News - ABC News

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BaldBastard · 12-12-2018, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

"Outlandish" encryption laws leave Australian tech industry angry and confused - Science News - ABC News

Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment (Assistance and Access) Act 2018

First understand The "Liberal" in Australia is like the Republican party in the USA, the other party here "Labour" is more aligned with American Liberals.

And now you know that...

this is what happens when you put in an Republican Government.. Who more than likely will be ousted at the next election here. I vote for the local Republicans.. but they have been infiltrated by the rightwing, and fuck that.. they can now go. And that's the sentiment of most Australians.

Byebye fuckers..

Then understand that Australia is more regulated and big brother than China.
If you go to bar in Aus and appear to be intoxicated.. they can't serve you by law. You smoke on the beach or have beer on the beach.. they can arrest you. As a New Zealander whose made Australia their home one of my biggest gripes is how Australians willingly bend over and let the Government fuck them in the ass.

land of the free huh

Bladewire · 12-12-2018, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

First understand The "Liberal" in Australia is like the Republican party in the USA, the other party here "Labour" is more aligned with American Liberals.

And now you know that...

this is what happens when you put in an Republican Government.. Who more than likely will be ousted at the next election here. I vote for the local Republicans.. but they have been infiltrated by the rightwing, and fuck that.. they can now go. And that's the sentiment of most Australians.

Byebye fuckers..

Then understand that Australia is more regulated and big brother than China.
If you go to bar in Aus and appear to be intoxicated.. they can't serve you by law. You smoke on the beach or have beer on the beach.. they can arrest you. As a New Zealander whose made Australia their home one of my biggest gripes is how Australians willingly bend over and let the Government fuck them in the ass.

land of the free huh

AdultKing · 12-13-2018, 08:03 AM

The AA Bill as it is known was brought in by our conservative government as MrBaldBastard pointed out. Our Liberal Party is the right wing party in Australia, Labor is the centrist left wing and the Greens even more left.

This bill was rushed through Parliament on the last sitting day of the year. Only the Greens opposed it.

What they law seeks to do is give government spy and law enforcement agencies the power to ask companies to help them gain access to encrypted communication. They can do this in many ways including asking employees of companies to build backdoors into their employer's software products - there's a 5 year jail term for refusing or for telling anyone about it, including your employer.

The bill also provides for assistance to any of the Five Eyes partners to use the Australian powers through Australian agencies, so the UK, New Zealand, Canada, the United States can all ask Australia to seek back doors in any software released by any company with a presence in Australia - which is most tech companies of any size.

This is a really poorly thought out piece of legislation, but you have to understand it comes from a Government that has had three prime ministers in six years and is a complete clusterfuck which is almost sure to lose the next election (due in May 2019).

Encryption is definitely a problem for law enforcement, however weakening it or the products that use encryption is a problem for everyone. A balance should be found where by with proper judicial oversight a spy agency or law enforcement agency can request assistance from companies that use encryption in their products, the problem is that there is no real oversight in these laws and they are open to serious abuse.

One theory about the opposition supporting the bill is that they will get to use it themselves when in power. Another theory is that they were wedged by the government on the last sitting day of parliament for the year, if they voted down the legislation and there was a terrorist attack over Christmas then they would lose the election they're a sure bet to win early next year.

There's a lot written online about the bill, but the best explainer I have found is here:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-46463029

BaldBastard · 12-13-2018, 08:27 AM

"The bill also provides for assistance to any of the Five Eyes partners to use the Australian powers through Australian agencies, so the UK, New Zealand, Canada, the United States can all ask Australia to seek back doors in any software released by any company with a presence in Australia - which is most tech companies of any size."

On face value its good, Terrorist wannabees and the criminally intent are hiding their communications via encrypted Apps and the feds here want access to those.

Problem is many of these apps are point to point encryption, ie: even the companies that make the app can't get into them.. so they want those apps to record all user activity ;) and let the feds have access when ever requested to those logs.

It doesn't worry me ( Like the vast majority here ) but... I did J walk yesterday and no doubt my phone knows that...

klinton · 12-13-2018, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Then understand that Australia is more regulated and big brother than China.
If you go to bar in Aus and appear to be intoxicated.. they can't serve you by law. You smoke on the beach or have beer on the beach.. they can arrest you. As a New Zealander whose made Australia their home one of my biggest gripes is how Australians willingly bend over and let the Government fuck them in the ass.

land of the free huh

such an overpriced (yet sunny) shithole.
Assagne - the only free Australian ;]

klinton · 12-13-2018, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

"Outlandish" encryption laws leave Australian tech industry angry and confused - Science News - ABC News

Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment (Assistance and Access) Act 2018

comrade, thats not far from laws in Russia I guess...
all governemnts are the same and want the same - more power and control, while hiding themselves under one-way mirrors without transparency.

BaldBastard · 12-13-2018, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

such an overpriced (yet sunny) shithole.
Assagne - the only free Australian ;]

At least you admit he's Australian.. ;) send him home, Australian Government left or right will be very accommodating ;)

AdultKing · 12-13-2018, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Problem is many of these apps are point to point encryption, ie: even the companies that make the app can't get into them.. so they want those apps to record all user activity ;) and let the feds have access when ever requested to those logs.
..

That's the point of the bill, the AA Bill enables backdoors to be created which will be able to access the data on a device after it's been decrypted. Obviously breaking end to end encryption is unlikely (until quantum computing realises it's potential), however if your device is targeted with a special software update just for you that's compromised then the agencies can read your encrypted communications as they are shown to you in plain text.

Sid70 · 12-14-2018, 01:29 PM

Now you have your nose in AU things, faggot. Get back on track shaveling shit off your own lawn, retard.

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AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,605	The AA Bill as it is known was brought in by our conservative government as MrBaldBastard pointed out. Our Liberal Party is the right wing party in Australia, Labor is the centrist left wing and the Greens even more left. This bill was rushed through Parliament on the last sitting day of the year. Only the Greens opposed it. What they law seeks to do is give government spy and law enforcement agencies the power to ask companies to help them gain access to encrypted communication. They can do this in many ways including asking employees of companies to build backdoors into their employer's software products - there's a 5 year jail term for refusing or for telling anyone about it, including your employer. The bill also provides for assistance to any of the Five Eyes partners to use the Australian powers through Australian agencies, so the UK, New Zealand, Canada, the United States can all ask Australia to seek back doors in any software released by any company with a presence in Australia - which is most tech companies of any size. This is a really poorly thought out piece of legislation, but you have to understand it comes from a Government that has had three prime ministers in six years and is a complete clusterfuck which is almost sure to lose the next election (due in May 2019). Encryption is definitely a problem for law enforcement, however weakening it or the products that use encryption is a problem for everyone. A balance should be found where by with proper judicial oversight a spy agency or law enforcement agency can request assistance from companies that use encryption in their products, the problem is that there is no real oversight in these laws and they are open to serious abuse. One theory about the opposition supporting the bill is that they will get to use it themselves when in power. Another theory is that they were wedged by the government on the last sitting day of parliament for the year, if they voted down the legislation and there was a terrorist attack over Christmas then they would lose the election they're a sure bet to win early next year. There's a lot written online about the bill, but the best explainer I have found is here: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-46463029

12-13-2018, 08:27 AM	#5
BaldBastard Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 15,369	"The bill also provides for assistance to any of the Five Eyes partners to use the Australian powers through Australian agencies, so the UK, New Zealand, Canada, the United States can all ask Australia to seek back doors in any software released by any company with a presence in Australia - which is most tech companies of any size." On face value its good, Terrorist wannabees and the criminally intent are hiding their communications via encrypted Apps and the feds here want access to those. Problem is many of these apps are point to point encryption, ie: even the companies that make the app can't get into them.. so they want those apps to record all user activity ;) and let the feds have access when ever requested to those logs. It doesn't worry me ( Like the vast majority here ) but... I did J walk yesterday and no doubt my phone knows that...