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07-12-2018, 04:11 AM | #1 |
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What Trump Should Have Told Germany About Russian Gas
https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ian-gas-219000
on point article, including the criticism of the project, which i absolutely share i just have little hope that a voice of reason has a chance nowadays, it seems so much more fun being outraged and throw insults.
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I am not sure what the United States is supposed to do in regards to the German / Russian Gas pipeline connection.
Interesting how former German chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, chairman of Rosneft. Former chancellor Schroeder is a Putin agent. On top of that, Germany expects the United States to protect them from Russia. You do not see anything wrong with that picture ? It's nothing short of laughable. |
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from the linked article: "the German market is the largest buyer of Gazprom’s exports, accounting for 27 percent of Gazprom’s European exports. The loss of customers in Germany would cripple both the company and Moscow’s budget." Gas on, gas off.. Putty be good. |
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all way before the current "president" (who just called Putin a "fine man") started to fuck things up some more plus some more inaccouracies in your post
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I really wonder how humanity is supposed to survive when public opinion is made by the ones that scream lies the loudest and until the reasonable give up. happy new world
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the Paris Climate Accord is kaput.
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trump wants that Germany imports gas from USA - but the point is that not "Germany" is importing gas - those are the energy companies who buy on the world market. US gas is 20% more expensive than russian gas PLUS the pipleine would be even more expensive because 4 times longer. who would be such an idiot and buy expensive when they can buy cheap? I am pretty sure that Germany would buy the american gas if it is cheaper than the russian. but at the end we buy where we want - we also don´t tell the US where they have to buy their stuff. so fuck trump shall he breathe his gas. |
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If Mr. trump doesn't like it, he can do what Reagan did:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archi...=.0a4333758008
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IMO voting these fucks out will not be enough because the ones who manage to stay or the new Republicans who get in will be even more radicalized. The entire Republican political party has gone bat shit crazy and needs to be removed from existence. None of these people who have allowed this to happen should be in any form of office or have any influence on a political party. They literally have multiple self proclaimed Nazi's running for various offices. Imagine if you had people in your country, openly running for office who support Nazis.. That's what we have in this country right now with the Republican party due to Trump. Trump has let all these closet freaks come out of the woodwork to feel emboldened.
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"Germany Is Addicted to Russian Gas" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...kel-s-backyard "Germany relied on Russia for 50 percent to 75 percent of its natural gas imports in 2017." https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/11/behi...-fueled-t.html |
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"Russia has cut off gas supplies to Ukraine in the past, and Europe is worried it could use energy as a weapon again in the future."
"European leaders are well aware that millions of homes would be without heating if Russia turns off the gas taps." it's very clear who has the advantage- putin. |
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regardless, it's clear that germany buying gas from russia most certainly is not germany controlling russia and more likely the exact opposite. |
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He's a fucking moron, all he cares about is feeding meat to his base. He's a reality tv president who plays to his audience.
He goes and talks shit, then holds a conference and lies about everything Any info he gets is from Fox News and the only thing he really cares about is money and pushing Russia's interests!
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"The gas is not bought by the German government, either. Private companies buy gas from Gazprom in a commercial marketplace." Facts are like kryptonite to Trumpanzees |
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Trump speaks very precisely. Trump lies very precisely. Trump is out to make Putin look like a dominant world leader and make our allies look weak. Trump is doing this for himself. Wether it's because he's being blackmailed, or paid, or promised big deals, whatever the reason, this is his goal: Putin strong, allies weak |
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"If Russia supplies 30% or 50%, either way there is no way Europe could get through a winter without that gas supply," said Trevor Sikorski, an analyst at Energy Aspects. "We are already dependent."
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"Natural gas from Western Siberia remains indispensable for Europe, especially since the German nuclear phase-out - which the Russians comment on with glee. Renewable energies will remain marginal for a long time, albeit heavily subsidized."
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↑↑↑ Spins every lie possible to support the alt-right hate groups & Trump
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I'm bored with constantly proving you wrong thommy.
as I stated, the Paris Climate Accord is kaput::::::::: Germany’s new government deal fails the Paris climate accord test Germany's new government deal fails the Paris climate accord test German coalition negotiators agree to scrap 2020 climate target - sources https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-ge...KBN1EX0OW?il=0 |
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It is UKRAINE .... a leech of Europe now ... they don<t have money ... so they don't pay . end of gas ! |
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I'm not one of the many european leaders who has declared that russia is a threat as they point to Ukraine as an example. I simply quoted that fact.
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Germany Becomes the New Poster Child for Climate Change Hypocrisy
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There were only a handful of areas that Trump won by "landslide" numbers so to speak and those areas were all very rural with very "low" population numbers. Likely low IQ areas as well, judging by the typical Trump supporter.. This is reality hitting you in the face... Illegal gerrymandering is why Trump won.. not because of support from the people of this country, but because Republicans managed to cheat the system and Trump took advantage of it.
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"Germany is on course to spectacularly miss its 2020 climate target, according to a new study by think thank Agora Energiewende."
"Failure of the 2020 climate target won't just damage the climate but also Germany's international role," Agora director Patrick Graichen said in a press release. https://www.dw.com/en/germany-risks-...ure/a-40413092 https://www.agora-energiewende.de/in...en_themenliste[produkt]=920 |
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"During a visit to Poland earlier this month, German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas said that Germany isn’t linking Nord Stream 2 and the poisoning of former spy Sergei Skripal. “Both developments have to be strictly separated,” said a spokeswoman for the German ministry of economy and energy. “Our position has always been that Nord Stream 2 is a commercial project promoted by companies, which have to abide by the applicable national and EU rules.” https://www.politico.eu/article/germ...oreign-policy/ |
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What Trump said was what needed to be said.
1) You don't fulfill your NATO obligations 2) You send BILLIONS to Russia 3) You want protection FROM Russia 4) We pay much of your bill for you 5) To make everything worse, we have a $150,000,000,000.00 annual trade deficit with those same countries 6) So... it's time to square things up and cut the bullshit. This is not a new discussion. This is an old discussion. These things are said every fucking year by every sitting President. The difference is that FINALLY there is someone who will lay down the law and act, rather than use the experience for photo ops where nothing happens later and if anything, the situation worsens. It's downright comical to watch a desperate crowd being called out on their bullshit selfish behavior and then see the entire news cycle filled with arguments about fractions and percentages and "Germanys renewable energy" etc etc. rather than the actual points which were made. BEST OF ALL??? The Left NOW supports pipelines. Let's have a big round of applause for all the upcoming oil and gas development that will be happening because you finally saw the light and understand that energy needs are a necessity, not a luxury. Oh.... and let's not forget how long Germany waited to say anything at all about Russia invading the Ukraine. They only did it after intense pressure from the international community. So the other fake narrative about "Germany leading the way against sanctions against Russia" is also pure bullshit. Germany and their ex-Stasi leader and with all their RosNeft ties did nothing at all, said nothing at all for as long as possible.
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Hey look - Obama telling Germany to step up.
Imagine that And with Germany and Canadians pushing back... Wolfgang Schäuble, the German finance minister, said earlier this year increasing defence spending from 1.3 per cent could create misunderstandings with Russia. The Canadian government has also baulked at the rise from its current level of one per cent. Obama and Cameron to tell Nato allies to increase defence spending - Telegraph
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Here is our 'leader', representing the EU while being drunk during the meeting.
Who elected that guy? Kissing and grabbing man.
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https://www.ft.com/content/1bb6bd4a-...c-6e7d9515ad15 Russia plays geopolitical Gazprom game Gazprom has long been a key component of Russia's political setup—energy exports are the only real source of hard currency revenue for Russia. Stability in this big country, and therefore the political survival of the current political elite, depends mainly on a steady flow of cash that enables them to throw money at problems and buy the loyalty of crucial stakeholder groups, not least the military. Thus, the success of Gazprom's business model is a must for Putin and his team. Russia's Geopolitical Gazprom Blunder - Carnegie Europe - Carnegie Endowment for International Peace |
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Crooked leaders bathing in European tax money, "you're fired" comes to mind.
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