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directfiesta

yep, and Putin is very very happy .....

TheSquealer

Uhm.. yeah, Russias leader, Putin ... leading a country which only pulled itself out of the financial abyss and survived at all through the 2000s due entirely to skyrocketing oil prices for over a decade and who is running an economy of which is largely dependent on oil and gas exports is super happy to see Trump start shitting on Russias largest EU customers and for calling SA and asking them to increase production to reduce gas prices.

Sounds legit.

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dyna mo

Why would he be happy about that?

TheSquealer

its comical what politics has become now. A bunch of hyper-emotional twits responding to everything with "hate trump" and then figure out why after the fact. they never know what they're arguing for or against from one minute to the next. when thats the MO, these kinds of mistakes are bound to happen often as we're seeing

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dyna mo

i bitch slapped mrbaldbastard with several (many) links to disprove his wild ass exclamation (with no supporting evidence at all) he made about germany controlling russia/putin via nord stream in the other germs thread, his reply:

dyna mo

the best though is watching dumb hateful thommy get even dumber and more hateful when I point out how dumb and hateful he is.

slapass

Dude, you are delusional. We still import more oil then Germany does natural gas as a percent.

Btw, Trump just thinks he looks smart promoting LNG. He does not know that we had some steel mills opening because of our cheap Natural gas made it possible. But go ahead and export it, we don’t want thst industry or those jobs. We have an idiot out there and it shows. He is bound to do some good and some bad as he is pretty much just random.

He does not know why he wants 2%. He has no plan. He did not even know what 2%was a few months ago. Liberals are just against anything he does but I would be all for pulling out of NATO. Why not? Close our Europe bases. Do less in the U.N. front. We don’t win those wars, it is just to keep combat hardened troops and test weaponry.

TheSquealer

He made this one of his main points in his campaign. He has been talking about the need to get this stuff under control for years. Same with the UN which has not once, ever done anything to fulfill its stated mandate. It's basically an aid organization and a platform for dictators to get attention before the world.

BTW.. i'm with you. I am 100% for walking away from NATO and also the UN.

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dyna mo

what am I delusional about? still waiting on you telling me what my narrative is too.

I couldn't care less about your trump gibberish.

dyna mo

I hope you're going to declare I'm delusional about USA becoming the world's biggest oil producer........................

dyna mo

a little teaser for what's coming up for slapass

"The United States will overtake Russia as the world’s biggest oil producer by 2019 at the latest, the International Energy Agency (IEA) said on Tuesday."

dyna mo

so much for slapass having a nutsack to back up his bullshit drive-by insults.

dyna mo

"The soaring U.S. production is upending global oil markets, coming at a time when other major producers - including Russia and members of the Middle East-dominated Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) - have been withholding output to prop up prices.

U.S. oil is also increasingly being exported, including to the world’s biggest and fastest growing markets in Asia, eating away at OPEC and Russian market share."

thommy

THIS !!!!

it does not enter their empty heads that trade is a thing between companies.
and trade have to do with competition and pricing

that´s the big lack of trump´s idea too and the bill for that missing knowledge will be paid by tax payers all around the world but mostly from amercians.

the world does not stop to spin just because trump is farting. every da new connections
and trades are coming up and the world is not waiting til US wakes up.

these new connections and trading contracts will be still stable when trump is gone.

In regards to NATO germany´s ex-foreign minister Gabriel said it yesterday perfectly:

"If he is demanding billions back from us for US military expenditure, then we must demand billions back from him that we must spend on the refugees who have produced failed US military interventions, for example in Iraq."

this is exactly the point.
europe would not have such a refugee crisis without all this US military spendings.

on the other hand, all these trouble spots are produced just so the US taxpayers think they need more weapons and are willing to pay it.

and what exactly besides poverty and refugees was achieved with it?

It's so ridiculous that there are people who are not only stupid enough to believe this bullshit, but are even stupid enough to pay for being that stupid.

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thommy

correct - but you forget the fact that weapons and war is a typical americxan export good and a big part of your economy.

if someone would change THAT FACT there would be a chance for america´s future.

the current outlook is simple and visible to everyone. in 10 or 20 years the US will be so heavily in debt that even the next 100 generations will not be able to pay this mountain of debt back.

a great legacy to leave your descendants there.

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thommy

You are by far the dumbest clown here.

america may be the number 1 oil consumer but not the number 1 producer. oil production in the USA amounts to 540 million barrels per year. in contrast, your consumption is 870 million barrels. so what you consume more than you produce covers more than half of the total saudi oil production.

but you are undoubtedly number one in the world in the production of greenhouse gases and environmental damage.

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Tasty1

Thanks Merkel!

- Poluting the world for building more cars with fraudulent emmission software and use Paris Climate as toilet paper.
- Forcing out the USA of Nato cause the USA have enough of protecting against Russia.
- Germany having a big mouth about Ukrain, but doing nothing and financing/helping Russia.
- Germany undermining the sanctions against Russia for intervering in USA elections (still not proven)
- Don't care about poisoned people in the UK by Russia
- Don't care about MH17 where Russia shot down a Plane that killed 298 people, 193 Dutch.
- Don't care about other EU countries opinion about the pipeline, trade uber alles
- Forcing allies like danmark to choose between USA, Russia/Germany. and EU countries that are against the pipeline and that way divide countries.
- Gerard Schroder the former leader of Germany is already in Putin's pockets filling his pockets. Merkel will be offered a great job also.
- Saying "wir schaffen das" and now trying to force the people that came to Germany back to the countries they first entered, making Germans promise, their problem.
- Allowing refugee taxi services to operate so smugglers made big money for years and people drowning for the coast of EU. While everyone that was smarter already told 4 years ago that refugee taxi where a part of the drowning problem.

It could be a German / Russian strategy to make a Europe 3.0 by putting the protection of the USA aside and divide the EU.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/artic...ukraine-crisis

What i predecit is that Merkel's policy will divide the EU further and the EU will get in another crisis. And all that for the car industry. The new choosen leaders stopped already listening to the EU, made walls, sent back refugee taxi services, don't let in immigrants. They give EU the finger, because Germany also gives other countries the finger.

Merkel is paving the way for more extreme political leaders around Europe cause they are the only one that dare to go against the EU and German strangulations. Trump showed that the EU leaders condem Russia for all; some boycot the Worldcup, Russia has made Trump president, Russia will influence Brexit, Fear of Russia involved in Dutch/English/EU country elections etcetra. And making the whole EU afraid of the big bad Russia. While in the meantime ex political leaders like Gerard Schroder banking on Russia. Trump is tired of it and now more people see this strange EU policy. Financing enemies. Or are the Russians not our enemy? We know now Putin and Merkel are big buddies.

And still people keep wondering why people are voting more right and are against the EU 3.0 ....

I just wrote down some arguments. Not all arguments i support, but that are living in the EU so you see other view points.

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bla bla bla ....trump politics bla bla bla

Tasty1

And i almost forgot the new German import tarifs. Oh sorry. They don't call them import tarrifs. It is called "Toll Roads". Making everything more expensive for you, the consumer. It will make Germany about 7 billion extra income. And the EU consumer will pay for it. There was 2300 kilomter of tollraods in Germany, now that is 39.000 kilometer since July 2, 2018

Several countries already went to European court for it. But than Germany change some letters in the plans and keep going on.

Thanks Merkel, the Trump of Europe

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Sarn

USA have interest on flood EU by Muslims and Gulf monarchy too. It gives many problems on centuries in Europe ahead.

the moment of truth is not so far away EU will be dependent from Germany and not be divided.

President Trump’s next two summits, first with NATO allies in Brussels, then with Russia’s President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki, Finland, will either restore American global leadership or kill it off, depending on how he plays our hand.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/06/o...to-russia.html

Sarn

Why the U.S. Is Buying Natural Gas From Russia
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-quicktake-q-a

dyna mo

once again, it's ridiculously easy to prove thommy wrong.

U.S. to overtake Russia as top oil producer by 2019 at latest: IEA
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKCN1GB0C6

eat shit.

dyna mo

once again, it's ridiculously easy to show how dumb thommy is

China is the #1 in greenhouse gases, eu almost equals USA.
This Interactive Chart Explains World?s Top 10 Emitters, and How They?ve Changed | World Resources Institute

eat shit.

dyna mo

once again, it's ridiculously easy to show how dumb thommy is.

Weapons aren't even in the top 10 USA exports.

America’s top export products are refined petroleum oils followed by cars, automotive parts and accessories, electronic integrated circuits then mobile phones.

Machinery including computers: US$201.7 billion (13% of total exports)
Electrical machinery, equipment: $174.2 billion (11.3%)
Mineral fuels including oil: $138 billion (8.9%)
Aircraft, spacecraft: $131.2 billion (8.5%)
Vehicles: $130.1 billion (8.4%)
Optical, technical, medical apparatus: $83.6 billion (5.4%)
Plastics, plastic articles: $61.5 billion (4%)
Gems, precious metals: $60.4 billion (3.9%)
Pharmaceuticals: $45.1 billion (2.9%)
Organic chemicals: $36.2 billion (2.3%)

United States Top 10 Exports

eat shit.

dyna mo

if thommy were a decent human being and not so hateful, I'd feel bad about how dumb he is.

Grapesoda

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that's you in spades bro, hard to respect that's for sure

TheSquealer

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thommy

what is so strange on it?

every german car and truck have to pay tolls in nearly every european country.
nearly every of those countries are delivering goods to other countries THROUGH Germany and they use the longest and most expensive motorways in whole Europe for free ???

why ?

why shall we pay for using the roads of other countriess and other countries don´t
have to pay for our roads? Germany have 12.900 km motorways and to keep that
working cost a lot of money.

there is no logic behind that.

did you ever drive through france til spain with a normal car?
the costs (one way are around 200 euros). did you drive through italy, spain, austria, czech republic, portugal, ireland, greecem croatia, poland, slowenia, czech republic, slowakia, hungary, romania, bulgaria or even switzerland for free ?

why do you call that a german invention ? these countries charge german drivers since centuries and the do not even have a fraction of the motorways Germany offers.

as far as i know in the netherlands motorways are still free but you have a few bridges and tunnels where drivers have to pay toll. Germany don´t have that and never had it. and on the other hand WHO need to go through the netherlands to deliver in other countries. 90% of your road traffic from outside is delivering to the netherlands. but in Germany 80% of the truck traffic from other countries goes through Germany into other countries.

I want to hear you when they would have something like the channel between france an england in holland and all traffic would go through holland for free and dutch taxpayer pays for repair your roads.

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thommy

I really hope for you that Germany will stay this peaceful country as it is.
If people who think like you are getting in power there again you will not have a chance to celebrate a friend - THAN you should be afraid again.

but god thanks are fuckers like you very rare in Germany or behind iron curtains.
and you can go on to insult me and the Germans.
we don´t care you and we don´t care your stupid liar what you call you POTUS.

USA 2018 = comedy pure

maybe we should pay you for the entertainment a few euros.

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dyna mo

no one is shocked that thommy doesn't have the balls to admit he's wrong.

Sarn

Tasty1

I point out that some country introduce import tarifs. In Europe the government uses other tactics to make consumer goods more expensive. I thought you where so against taxes that makes products more expensive.... Now i understand that is only when it is not in favour of Germany. Else you get mad as a rasing bull when the cost of products get higher.

So everybody jumps from a tower, and now Germany also has to introduces those high taxes on Toll roads. Than in the end all countries have toll roads and we all get fucked in Europe. And have less to spent on consumer products. I drove trough Europe, seeing roads in Croatia paid by the EU and i had to pay Toll. Or the new abandonned roads in Greece where nobody drove, paid by the EU.

So Germany who has the strongest economy in Europe wants more, more, more from the EU consumers, while already profiting most from the EU..

For your information; the most goods in Europe go Through Rotterdam. So now you can wait till holland will introduce Toll for all trucks. Making goods to and from Europe for everyone more expensive.

Congrats, the governements laugh their ass out of their pants. And as we all know the roads are not that expensive, it is paid for at least 10 times with all the taxes. Only doesn't use the governent all that money on roads. Your government want to get more money from the EU consumers, it is just like that and bullshit excuses about the cost. So if Trump calls the import tarifs an environmental tax to ship the cars from to the USA it is ok? In the end the consumer pays more. You can not mean it you are in favour of that suddenly. Fucking all tourist that want to buy a german beer first have to spent money for the roads.

I never paid toll in Holland. But also a trick from the government. The roads in Holland are well paid. If they use all money on the roads they tax it for we would have roads made of gold. I am against toll roads. But now i think it is time Holland introduces Toll for all foreigners. Why should i pay for their roads and they not pay for Dutch roads?

Edit; i see that all farmers and transport companies in Germany also hate it.
https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschl...egen-Maut.html

https://www.daserste.de/information/.../maut-104.html

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Tasty1

I also remember Italy and Holland have a dispute over Gas. Holland is since the cold war forced to sell gas to Italy far beneath the market price. Holland was forced to do that so Italy wouldn't make a deal with Russia and keep Italy out of the influence of Russia. Only in 2010 Holland start making those price higher. And now that Holland has to stop with 'natural' gas cause of earthquakes, Germany is banking by doing business with the russians while Holland had to give a way billions of gas to keep Russia out.

Can we get our money back from the NATO? I think it is better Holland only invest 1%on military budget and call off 60% of the missions they are involved. And if we keep investing 2%, than we just want our gas money back.

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