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Old 01-18-2017, 01:32 PM   #1
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Assange proves he's a lying coward again, changes mind on extradition to U.S.

Who really thought he'd keep his word?

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Assange not ready to be extradited: Chelsea Manning clemency does not meet our "conditions"

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange was supposedly ready to accept extradition to the United States if President Barack Obama commuted Chelsea Manning?s prison sentence for her role in leaking classified information.

Now that Obama actually went through with commuting Manning?s sentence, however, Assange still isn?t going to turn himself in.

The Hill reports that Barry Pollack, Assange?s U.S.-based attorney, is now claiming that ?Obama?s commutation of Chelsea Manning?s sentence does not meet the conditions of the WikiLeaks head?s offer to be extradited to the United States.?

One major sticking point, Pollack says, is that Manning will not be released until this coming May, whereas Assange wanted her to be released immediately.

However, the original offer posted by WikiLeaks on Twitter only required Obama to grant Manning clemency, and didn?t specify any timetables for her release.

"If Obama grants Manning clemency Assange will agree to US extradition despite clear unconstitutionality of DoJ case" https://t.co/MZU30SlfGK
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Uhm, why the fuck should Assange come to the US, given the amount of corruption he's exposed about the US government?

Why would he come back at a time when Trump is about to be president; a guy who has once advocated putting to death Snowden?

I'd stay as far the fuck away as possible, and keep exposing the mafia (the state).
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Uhm, why the fuck should Assange come to the US,
Because he said he would, in exchange for a prisoner being released. The prisoner is being released, and now he goes back on his word like the lying coward he is.
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Because he said he would, in exchange for a prisoner being released. The prisoner is being released, and now he goes back on his word like the lying coward he is.
Kudos to Assange, then.

Keeping your word means absolutely nothing when you're dealing with the world's largest criminal organization (US).

On one hand, he helped free an individual who's only *real* wrongdoing was revealing corruption (remember now, truth is treason in an empire of lies!), and on the other, he's able to continue escaping the grip of a murderous, corrupt organization.
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yet I still wait "for more" wikileaks on China, Russia and few others....
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Kudos to Assange, then.

Keeping your word means absolutely nothing when you're dealing with the world's largest criminal organization (US).

On one hand, he helped free an individual who's only *real* wrongdoing was revealing corruption (remember now, truth is treason in an empire of lies!), and on the other, he's able to continue escaping the grip of a murderous, corrupt organization.
Oh you hate America and have no problem lying & cheating Americans
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So Assange gets internal information about the wrong doings of the DNC, shows the public and somehow he and Russia are the bad guys?
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Sure is weird to me to see folks who seem to be Democrats attacking Julian Assange and wanting to start conflicts with Russia, etc.

Not singling you out Bladewire. I'm speaking in general terms here.

It was the Bush administration who pressured Sweden into making Assange a wanted man in the first place. (they were pissed on how he revealed hacked emails that pointed out Bush administration lies)

At that time, Assange was praised to high heavens by the Democrat Party biased media....and HATED by the Republicans.
Back then Assange was letting sunshine in on the dark secrets of our corrupt govt. and was a hero.
Hell, he won several major journalistic awards AND was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.

But once he had the audacity to shine light on the Democrats? Well, now he's a criminal and a monster and needs to be thrown in prison and SILENCED immediately.



And once upon a time (for all my lifetime)...the Democrats and the Democrat biased media was all about making friends with Russia.
No matter WHAT the Russian govt. did or didn't do.

Seems like only a few years ago that Hillary Clinton made a fool of herself with that stupid big red "reset" button that she handed to the Russian President in front of the cameras. So embarrassing (not the idea, but the stupid red plastic button)

And then in 2012 when President Obama himself was caught on an open mic telling a Russian official to tell "Vladimir" that once the 2012 election was over that he would be more "flexible" to work together with him.

This was all seen as "good" by the Democrat politicians and media.

But now that Pres. Obama's flirting with Putin has been rebuffed and Trump is flirting...OMG!!!
Now, all of a sudden...we need to start a freakin' war with Russia.

Just weird. It's like the world has turned upside down.

A "Republican" (Trump) is acting like what he really is (a Democrat)...but since he has an "R" in front of his name...the Democrats and media hate THE EXACT THINGS THEY RECENTLY STOOD FOR.

And I use the term "stood for" very, very loosely. It's obvious that neither Republicans or Democrat politicians have ANYTHING they really stand for.

They just go the opposite of whatever the other party says or does.

Really fucked up.
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Sure is weird to me to see folks who seem to be Democrats attacking Julian Assange and wanting to start conflicts with Russia, etc.

Not singling you out Bladewire. I'm speaking in general terms here.

It was the Bush administration who pressured Sweden into making Assange a wanted man in the first place. (they were pissed on how he revealed hacked emails that pointed out Bush administration lies)

At that time, Assange was praised to high heavens by the Democrat Party biased media....and HATED by the Republicans.
Back then Assange was letting sunshine in on the dark secrets of our corrupt govt. and was a hero.
Hell, he won several major journalistic awards AND was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.

But once he had the audacity to shine light on the Democrats? Well, now he's a criminal and a monster and needs to be thrown in prison and SILENCED immediately.



And once upon a time (for all my lifetime)...the Democrats and the Democrat biased media was all about making friends with Russia.
No matter WHAT the Russian govt. did or didn't do.

Seems like only a few years ago that Hillary Clinton made a fool of herself with that stupid big red "reset" button that she handed to the Russian President in front of the cameras. So embarrassing (not the idea, but the stupid red plastic button)

And then in 2012 when President Obama himself was caught on an open mic telling a Russian official to tell "Vladimir" that once the 2012 election was over that he would be more "flexible" to work together with him.

This was all seen as "good" by the Democrat politicians and media.

But now that Pres. Obama's flirting with Putin has been rebuffed and Trump is flirting...OMG!!!
Now, all of a sudden...we need to start a freakin' war with Russia.

Just weird. It's like the world has turned upside down.

A "Republican" (Trump) is acting like what he really is (a Democrat)...but since he has an "R" in front of his name...the Democrats and media hate THE EXACT THINGS THEY RECENTLY STOOD FOR.

And I use the term "stood for" very, very loosely. It's obvious that neither Republicans or Democrat politicians have ANYTHING they really stand for.

They just go the opposite of whatever the other party says or does.

Really fucked up.
Good post, robbie

Assange has to allegiance to any party so people can't put him in a "box"...now they hate him. he is just exposing these idiots for what they are!
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yet I still wait "for more" wikileaks on China, Russia and few others....
This.. I used to support wikileaks and Assange. I agreed with the idea behind it and supported it. The problem is, it's become very apparent Assange is extremely biased.

He muddied the waters in the US election instead of being non-biased and on many occasions prior to that he's covered Russia's ass while fucking over the US. Sadly, wikileaks can no longer be trusted with Assange at the helm..
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Sure is weird to me to see folks who seem to be Democrats attacking Julian Assange and wanting to start conflicts with Russia, etc.

Not singling you out Bladewire. I'm speaking in general terms here.

It was the Bush administration who pressured Sweden into making Assange a wanted man in the first place. (they were pissed on how he revealed hacked emails that pointed out Bush administration lies)

At that time, Assange was praised to high heavens by the Democrat Party biased media....and HATED by the Republicans.
Back then Assange was letting sunshine in on the dark secrets of our corrupt govt. and was a hero.
Hell, he won several major journalistic awards AND was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.

But once he had the audacity to shine light on the Democrats? Well, now he's a criminal and a monster and needs to be thrown in prison and SILENCED immediately.



And once upon a time (for all my lifetime)...the Democrats and the Democrat biased media was all about making friends with Russia.
No matter WHAT the Russian govt. did or didn't do.

Seems like only a few years ago that Hillary Clinton made a fool of herself with that stupid big red "reset" button that she handed to the Russian President in front of the cameras. So embarrassing (not the idea, but the stupid red plastic button)

And then in 2012 when President Obama himself was caught on an open mic telling a Russian official to tell "Vladimir" that once the 2012 election was over that he would be more "flexible" to work together with him.

This was all seen as "good" by the Democrat politicians and media.

But now that Pres. Obama's flirting with Putin has been rebuffed and Trump is flirting...OMG!!!
Now, all of a sudden...we need to start a freakin' war with Russia.

Just weird. It's like the world has turned upside down.

A "Republican" (Trump) is acting like what he really is (a Democrat)...but since he has an "R" in front of his name...the Democrats and media hate THE EXACT THINGS THEY RECENTLY STOOD FOR.

And I use the term "stood for" very, very loosely. It's obvious that neither Republicans or Democrat politicians have ANYTHING they really stand for.

They just go the opposite of whatever the other party says or does.

Really fucked up.
Look at my past posts here about Assange, before the election. I've always thought he was shit. He is shit.

Assange acts as a conduit for stolen data and uses that position for power, fame & personal gain. Assange is not an altruistic freedom fighting provider of information.
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This.. I used to support wikileaks and Assange. I agreed with the idea behind it and supported it. The problem is, it's become very apparent Assange is extremely biased.

He muddied the waters in the US election instead of being non-biased and on many occasions prior to that he's covered Russia's ass while fucking over the US. Sadly, wikileaks can no longer be trusted with Assange at the helm..
Not only that what kind of idiot trusts info who's site is infested with malware?

Malware alert: Dump on WikiLeaks contained over 3,000 malicious files ...
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Oh you hate America and have no problem lying & cheating Americans
Do you realize that when you feel Assange and Snowden should be locked up that YOU are the one who hates Americans and all other citizens in the world?

People have woken up how huge billion dollar government surveillance agencies are not there for your protection, but are there for your enslavement. If you are against the people who have exposed this you're suffering from a severe case of Stockholm Syndrome.
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I hate all governments. I'm an anarchist.

I do have a problem with lying and cheating innocent individuals.

You're bad at this.
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I hate all governments. I'm an anarchist.

I do have a problem with lying and cheating against innocent individuals.

You're bad at this.
Government taxes you over 50%, incarcerates millions, starts wars that kills millions, is in debt, etc but this clown is worried about some average guy "taking back his word" so he won't be extradited to a country who's government wants him killed. This is the world we live in, folks
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Do you realize that when you feel Assange and Snowden should be locked up that YOU are the one who hates Americans and all other citizens in the world?

People have woken up how huge billion dollar government surveillance agencies are not there for your protection, but are there for your enslavement. If you are against the people who have exposed this you're suffering from a severe case of Stockholm Syndrome.
Yes, big bad America, & Russia & China are innocent

Netherlands is so innocent too

Governments always have and always will do this no escaping it.
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wikileaks is not only Assagne I guess.....
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Do you realize that when you feel Assange and Snowden should be locked up that YOU are the one who hates Americans and all other citizens in the world?

People have woken up how huge billion dollar government surveillance agencies are not there for your protection, but are there for your enslavement. If you are against the people who have exposed this you're suffering from a severe case of Stockholm Syndrome.
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Yes, big bad America, & Russia & China are innocent

Netherlands is so innocent too

Governments always have and always will do this no escaping it.
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I hate all governments. I'm an anarchist.

I do have a problem with lying and cheating innocent individuals.

You're bad at this.
An anarchist who doesn't understand that without international governments, and their cooperation, the internet you're communicating on, and making your living on, wouldn't exist. Neither would credit cards to take orders!

You're not good at this
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And you have your tongue deep in the ass of Assange with the tip of your tongue tickling his shitty prostate while you give him a reach around.
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And you have your tongue deep in the ass of Assange with the tip of your tongue tickling his shitty prostate while you give him a reach around.
Assange provided true information to the public

How is HE the bad guy?
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Look at my past posts here about Assange, before the election. I've always thought he was shit. He is shit.

Assange acts as a conduit for stolen data and uses that position for power, fame & personal gain. Assange is not an altruistic freedom fighting provider of information.
That's one of the reasons I made sure to say I wasn't singling you out.
I think everyone should make up their own minds on issues without any bias or allegiance to party's.

I was really pointing to the Republican and Democrat politicians and the media that is no longer unbiased about things.

They simply shift to whatever the other "side" is for...and they go against it.

Basically Obama could cure cancer right now...and the Republicans and Fox News opinion shows would find fault with it.

And if Trump cures cancer...the Democrats and CNN would still find a way to make it a "bad thing".

None of them seem to have any integrity or vision or true beliefs in ideas or ideals.
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That's one of the reasons I made sure to say I wasn't singling you out.
I think everyone should make up their own minds on issues without any bias or allegiance to party's.

I was really pointing to the Republican and Democrat politicians and the media that is no longer unbiased about things.

They simply shift to whatever the other "side" is for...and they go against it.

Basically Obama could cure cancer right now...and the Republicans and Fox News opinion shows would find fault with it.

And if Trump cures cancer...the Democrats and CNN would still find a way to make it a "bad thing".

None of them seem to have any integrity or vision or true beliefs in ideas or ideals.
I saw Assange on Fox news a while back, the same week he was on Bill Maher. He insisted he wasn't partisan then I went to wikileaks to check out the emails and saw all the derogatory Clinton cartoons on the page. Its like, why even lie? I'm sure in the future we'll find that Assange has lied a lot to his followers
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Assange provided true information to the public

How is HE the bad guy?
Don't focus just on secret info not being secret. Focus on the private citizens who's info he made public. Focus on the fact that Russia & China are never effected by wikileaks, and the rest of the world is. And so much more but you're an anarchist who wants no government = no credit cards = no internet

You're not so smart stud.
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At that time, Assange was praised to high heavens by the Democrat Party biased media....and HATED by the Republicans.
I do not recall this... I've always thought that Wikileaks was horrible. Wikileaks hasn't exposed any corruption of the US government, but has hurt our national security more than all other past exposures combined. Not only in the eyes of other countries, but just imagine the damage that Wikileaks did by showing ISIS how we track them and attack them.

I am disappointed that the United States hasn't taken out Julian Assange and all of Wikileaks, no matter what the costs.
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we have seen the Podesta leak, but not yet the golden shower leaks!
Can Assagne blackmail Trump and get a pardon also...
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I do not recall this... I've always thought that Wikileaks was horrible. Wikileaks hasn't exposed any corruption of the US government, but has hurt our national security more than all other past exposures combined. Not only in the eyes of other countries, but just imagine the damage that Wikileaks did by showing ISIS how we track them and attack them.

I am disappointed that the United States hasn't taken out Julian Assange and all of Wikileaks, no matter what the costs.
Wish the USA tracked them. But in fact they armed them and let IS smuggle Syrian oil.
Till Putin showed some videos of trucks full of oil.
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where did he say that ?
he's so brainwashed that he can't even read and comprehend something anymore... seems that his mind completely warps anything someone says that goes against his indoctrinated ideas, and comes up with some weird fabricated conclusion.
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wikileaks is not only Assagne I guess.....
Yes, but he's the guy in charge and as long as he's in charge it will be heavily biased.. He did an AMA on Reddit a few days ago and he got hammered extremely hard from lots of people over his obvious bias and all his answers were pretty much skirting around the questions..

I mean look I get it, he doesn't like the US, because the US is after him. The problem, is he's allowed that to negatively affect wikileaks as a organization because he's in a publicity war with the US. Now the problem with that is he's just tossing any old info out there if it's bad for the US and Russia for example is easily taking advantage of that.

A simple example, was during the election he made a very big ordeal about claiming "the Russian govt didn't give him the DNC leaks". He knows damn well the Russian govt wouldn't hand it to him direct, that they would use a 3rd party.

He directly tried to influence public opinion in favor of Trump and against Hillary.. I didn't like Hillary any more than Trump, but that was pretty much the last strand of credibility lost for wikileaks for me.

Assange managed to do what no govt was able to do and that was discredit wikileaks making it a non trusted site.
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That's one of the reasons I made sure to say I wasn't singling you out.
I think everyone should make up their own minds on issues without any bias or allegiance to party's.

I was really pointing to the Republican and Democrat politicians and the media that is no longer unbiased about things.

They simply shift to whatever the other "side" is for...and they go against it.

Basically Obama could cure cancer right now...and the Republicans and Fox News opinion shows would find fault with it.

And if Trump cures cancer...the Democrats and CNN would still find a way to make it a "bad thing".

None of them seem to have any integrity or vision or true beliefs in ideas or ideals.
Obama isn't working to cure cancer right now.. Biden is..

https://www.cancer.gov/research/key-...cer-initiative
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where did he say that ?
Nico-T has a loooong pro Russia/China anti American history here. Go look back at his previous posts.

I was referring to his post history here

Anything Russia & China Nico-T is 100% behind. Anything America Nico-T thinks is corrupt.
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Nico-T has a loooong pro Russia/China anti American history here. Go look back at his previous posts.

I was referring to his post history here

Anything Russia & China Nico-T is 100% behind. Anything America Nico-T thinks is corrupt.
America isn't what it used to be since that immigration law was changed to let in low IQ poor people from the 3rd world
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America isn't what it used to be since that immigration law was changed to let in low IQ poor people from the 3rd world
It's the low IQ poor racists like you that damage the country more
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I can't find the reference right now but a couple of days ago I read that the U.S. does not have any plans to extradite Assange.

So, this is a bunch of hoo haa about nothing.

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My IQ is over 100

And the truth can NOT be racist
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And the truth can NOT be racist
Dude we all HAVE to live together. What good does holding down others you don't like do?
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Dude we all HAVE to live together. What good does holding down others you don't like do?
No, we don't ALL have to live together
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Yeah you do. You have no choice. No offense but you litterally can do nothing about it.
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Yeah you do. You have no choice. No offense but you litterally can do nothing about it.
Yes we do have a choice and there is a LOT we can do about it
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Because he said he would, in exchange for a prisoner being released. The prisoner is being released, and now he goes back on his word like the lying coward he is.
You would have to be an idiot to believe a dishonest person ...

let me guess; you believed him.
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Anything Russia & China Nico-T is 100% behind. Anything America Nico-T thinks is corrupt.
I have constantly spoken out my support for the citizens in the US who said 'fuck you' to the MSM and the presidential establishment dynasties by not voting the same crooked family in, and even have an avatar of the next president of the United States.

You hate your next president, criticize the people who have voted for him thus support the war mongering alternative sending Americans to their deaths, support surveillance agencies spying and breaching the privacy of your fellow citizens, think making nuclear force Russia an enemy rather than an ally is somehow a better option (wtf), and think foreigners (to you) should not discuss politics (the US election) affecting the whole world.

Sounds to me you really hate citizens not only from your country, but from the whole world, and love big government war mongers.
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Sounds to me you really hate citizens not only from your country, but from the whole world, and love big government war mongers.
Trump is a war monger. Who told you different?

Trump is already scoping out next move for NATO on Russia border and increasing troops in Syria.

You must not have seen Trumps latest TV interview last night, he's pulling back on Putin love too.


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I have constantly spoken out my support for the citizens in the US who said 'fuck you' to the MSM and the presidential establishment dynasties by not voting the same crooked family in, and even have an avatar of the next president of the United States.
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Trump is a war monger. Who told you different?

Trump is already scoping out next move for NATO on Russia border and increasing troops in Syria.

You must not have seen Trumps latest TV interview last night, he's pulling back on Putin love too.
How in gods name is trump a war monger??
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How in gods name is trump a war monger??
Watch his interview from last night

I think he's realised its not a game anymore and he's actually going to POTDS
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Watch his interview from last night

I think he's realised its not a game anymore and he's actually going to POTDS
Hillary is the war monger

Who is Trump going to war against?
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Hillary is the war monger

Who is Trump going to war against?
I've already stated that in this thread
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Look at my past posts here about Assange, before the election. I've always thought he was shit. He is shit.

Assange acts as a conduit for stolen data and uses that position for power, fame & personal gain. Assange is not an altruistic freedom fighting provider of information.
Assange gets information and releases it...again how is that "bad"? Am I missing something?
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