"First Man" leaves out the planting of the American flag on the moon.

[dyna mo]

safe space(s) I guess.

[cherrylula]

Maybe they did that so they can edit in different flags for different viewing audiences like Disney movies. Its all fiction lol

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

Maybe they did that so they can edit in different flags for different viewing audiences like Disney movies. Its all fiction lol

Are you even American?

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Are you even American?

My ninth Great Grandfather William Mullins helped finance the Mayflower. I am a descendant. So yeah.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

My ninth Great Grandfather William Mullins helped finance the Mayflower. I am a descendant. So yeah.

Nice, my 5th great grandmother was Martha Washington. A hip hip chick, always had a bowl ready for George when he got home.

nevertheless, no true-blooded American would suggest editing another country's flag on that. I mean a ruskie flag edited in on that? holy crap. get your guns.

[dyna mo]

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[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Nice, my 5th great grandmother was Martha Washington. A hip hip chick, always had a bowl ready for George when he got home.

nevertheless, no true-blooded American would suggest editing another country's flag on that. I mean a ruskie flag edited in on that? holy crap. get your guns.

You missed my sarcasm and then posted in the wrong thread. What ya smoking over there?

[cherrylula]

I didn't vote for Trump but I am glad he won. I always knew trolling made money but that guy really knows how to harness that shit. It is all so hilarious.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

You missed my sarcasm and then posted in the wrong thread. What ya smoking over there?

i totally got your sarcasm, did you get mine? I used a pop culture reference too even!

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

I didn't vote for Trump but I am glad he won. I always knew trolling made money but that guy really knows how to harness that shit. It is all so hilarious.

the POTUS's job requirements don't include trolling Americans and the world using threats of nuclear annihilation etc, et al on&on.

[OneHungLo]

Disgusting. Why does the left hate America? I mean why try to change history? What the fuck is their problem?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Disgusting. Why does the left hate America? I mean why try to change history? What the fuck is their problem?

I can't go any further left than I am and I agree with you!

[jsmih]

Per a space forum, the US flag is shown in multiple shots (on their space suits, on the side of the Lunar Module, etc.). There is also the fact that the flag wasn't easy to set up due to the hard ground and telescoping arm. It took both Armstrong and Aldrin working together some time and effort to do it. It wasn't like like the movies where Columbus walks off the boat onto the beach and in 2 seconds sticks a flag in the sand.

[dyna mo]

as per history the planting of that flag is a huge iconic moment in American history.

the director doesn't care what it took to stick it in the moon, he can easily figure out a scene to shoot it. they chose not to, in large part because ryan gosling is a dipshit canadian and he argued against the scene.

My old man was one of the engineers with a slide rule that got us to the moon and as per me leaving out the moment is disrespectful to the achievement.

[dyna mo]

it took ~30 seconds to put the American flag on the moon. weird a space forum didn't know that

[jsmih]

That appears to be Apollo 12, not 11. Based on this video, it took over 2 minutes to set up Apollo 11.

https://youtu.be/IBqbi-zlyl0

[dyna mo]

When Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin planted the American flag on the moon in 1969, it marked one of the proudest moments in US history.

But a new film about Armstrong has chosen to leave out this most patriotic of scenes, arguing that the giant leap for mankind should not be seen as an example of American greatness.

Gosling explained: “the giant leap for mankind should not be seen as an example of American greatness.”

what a canadian shithead.

[jsmih]

That appears to be Apollo 12, not 11. Based on this video, it took over 2 minutes to set up Apollo 11.

[dyna mo]

90 seconds makes no difference whatsoever, let's not kid ourselves that that was some kind of struggle and the director left it out because it would have been difficult.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by jsmih

That appears to be Apollo 12, not 11. Based on this video, it took over 2 minutes to set up Apollo 11.

that makes it an even more compelling scene.

[jsmih]

^ I agree. Interesting article on the director's goals and thought process for the movie, with the following comments on this issue from Armstrong's two sons:

"Although Neil didn't see himself that way, he was an American hero. He was also an engineer and a pilot, a father and a friend, a man who suffered privately through great tragedies with incredible grace. This is why, though there are numerous shots of the American flag on the moon, the filmmakers chose to focus on Neil looking back at the earth, his walk to Little West Crater, his unique, personal experience of completing this journey, a journey that has seen so many incredible highs and devastating lows."

Neil Armstrong&apos;s sons defend absence of flag-planting scene in &apos;First Man&apos; - Chicago Tribune

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

90 seconds makes no difference whatsoever, let's not kid ourselves that that was some kind of struggle and the director left it out because it would have been difficult.

Exactly. It's equivalent to making a 9/11 documentary and leaving out the planes crashing into the twin towers.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by jsmih

^ I agree. Interesting article on the director's goals and thought process for the movie, with the following comments on this issue from Armstrong's two sons:

"Although Neil didn't see himself that way, he was an American hero. He was also an engineer and a pilot, a father and a friend, a man who suffered privately through great tragedies with incredible grace. This is why, though there are numerous shots of the American flag on the moon, the filmmakers chose to focus on Neil looking back at the earth, his walk to Little West Crater, his unique, personal experience of completing this journey, a journey that has seen so many incredible highs and devastating lows."

Neil Armstrong&apos;s sons defend absence of flag-planting scene in &apos;First Man&apos; - Chicago Tribune

interesting read. I happen to think that the fact they have to defend leaving out the moment so vociferously proves how wrong it was to leave it out.

I may still enjoy the movie when I see it, nevertheless, there was no reason to not include it.

[DBS.US]

People in Hong Kong think Americas moon landing was just a TV show, like the Gilligan's island and I dream of Jennie.

[kane]

If the lack of the planting of the flag offends you, don't go see the movie.

For that matter, if it offends you badly enough never watch another Ryan Gosling or Damien Chazelle movie. If you are still offended, don't watch any movies or TV shows produced by the studio that put this movie out.

There, problem solved.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by kane

If the lack of the planting of the flag offends you, don't go see the movie.

For that matter, if it offends you badly enough never watch another Ryan Gosling or Damien Chazelle movie. If you are still offended, don't watch any movies or TV shows produced by the studio that put this movie out.

There, problem solved.

[lock]

It is better than the Press constantly interviewing Buzz Aldrin about aliens when he has mental health issues.

[Manfap]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

My old man was one of the engineers with a slide rule that got us to the moon and as per me leaving out the moment is disrespectful to the achievement.

If they were going to plant a flag based on who go the US to the moon, would have probably been a swastika.

[GAMEFINEST]

I heard its a good movie

[BaldBastard]

Putting the firstman on the moon was an international effort, lead by America, without those international teams there would of been no moon landing. So its good a movie is not just focusing on the propaganda efforts of the time but the story.

[TheSquealer]

can't wait to see the pathetic pussies of the left remake 300.

"The Great Gathering of an Indeterminate Sum of Non Binary, Pansexual Individuals Possessing Equal Stature, Strength, Attractiveness and Strategic Planning and Fighting Skill, Where No Feelings Are Hurt" should be really good.

Then all the nations who had fuck all to do with it can claim it was an international effort and international success and act as if it was their success as they then protest the fact that they weren't wearing gender neutral uniforms and that there wasn't a strong enough representation of eskimos and transexuals in the fight sequences

[jsmih]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Putting the firstman on the moon was an international effort, lead by America, without those international teams there would of been no moon landing. So its good a movie is not just focusing on the propaganda efforts of the time but the story.

Other than the tracking stations, what significant international participation was there? I'm not aware of anything.

[astronaut x]

Originally Posted by kane

If the lack of the planting of the flag offends you, don't go see the movie.

For that matter, if it offends you badly enough never watch another Ryan Gosling or Damien Chazelle movie. If you are still offended, don't watch any movies or TV shows produced by the studio that put this movie out.

There, problem solved.

If they are still offended, unplug the computer and step away from the internet. The internet has a lot of offensive shit.

[slapass]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

as per history the planting of that flag is a huge iconic moment in American history.

the director doesn't care what it took to stick it in the moon, he can easily figure out a scene to shoot it. they chose not to, in large part because ryan gosling is a dipshit canadian and he argued against the scene.

My old man was one of the engineers with a slide rule that got us to the moon and as per me leaving out the moment is disrespectful to the achievement.

Because you think people will be confused as to what country did it? What is your reasoning?

[bronco67]

That's just a stupid choice. The United States of America was responsible for the moon landing. End of story.

Why would any filmmaker have a meeting about whether or not it was appropriate to give credit mainly to the USA? Why would the thought even enter his head in the first place? It's pussy filmmaking. It wouldn't even be an audacious move to use the American flag in the scene since it's true, but I guess for Damian Chazelle it is very audacious.

[OneHungLo]

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by jsmih

Other than the tracking stations, what significant international participation was there? I'm not aware of anything.

It was an American funded project that never would of happened without the American Tax payer funding it and USA has every right to plant their flag.

However the technology driving it was most certainly mostly foreigner built. An international effort.. funded and managed by Nasa.

It was the worlds largest project costing trillions in todays money. Anybody "world wide" that had the brains or skills was helping, as that's where the work and money was. So large chunks of the technology used was foreigner built. America could hardly get a rocket off the ground until Wernher von Braun showed them how to do it ;)


https://history.nasa.gov/Apollomon/Apollo.html