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Old 11-30-2018, 09:24 AM   #1
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Russian men banned from entry to Ukraine

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ng-the-country

"Ukraine has blocked Russian men aged between 16 and 60 from entering the country in a sweeping ban that will affect travel for hundreds of thousands of people."

thats pretty harsh move....
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Ukraine made a very smart move!
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Showdown is a comming as history will repeat itself...



Galicia divison recent remembrance in public and in Kiev



Its veterans also in Kiev



And the other side then



And now







The Russian men will come ...

The only sad thing is that the Ukrainian neonazis are supported by the West just as they did 75 years ago...


And " can you spell Azov battalion ?"
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Celandina, please dont post pics of nazi criminals and volunteers here, because it makes me sick and vomit.

Also, dont post Russian propaganda. Nobody is stupid here to fell for that shit. Unless you really believe in that, then sorry for you.
The fact is, that Russia destabilizes Ukraine since 2014. its not Ukraine that invaded/occupied/ Russian territory, but the opposite. And that's the fact.

ps. btw where does the 1st pic that u posted come from ? any link for article/full disclosure? which year was taken, where, what occasion etc ? it looks like a cheap photoshop, is it or is not ?
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I am reading all this and just can't believe any of it, so sad.
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Showdown is a comming as history will repeat itself...

I hope not
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I fail to understand why NATO isn't rushing in tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine right now. Too bad our leaders don't have balls.
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I fail to understand why NATO isn't rushing in tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine right now. Too bad our leaders don't have balls.
Ukraine is not part of NATO.
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Ukraine is not part of NATO.
They applied to join NATO in 2008.

This scared Putin, so he fucked their election and installed Viktor Yanukovych as their POTUS who put joining NATO on hold. Since ousting Yanukovych and his government, they're now in the MAP approval process.
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Ukraine made a very smart move!
This ^^^
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I fail to understand why NATO isn't rushing in tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine right now. Too bad our leaders don't have balls.
Ukraine is not a member of NATO .....

NATO could do the same as in Lybia, do an invasion ... We know how that ended ....
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topic is about sth different...its not if Ukraine is part of NATO or not, its about Ukraine banning ALL Russian men 18-60 from crossing its borders. ALL of them. Its like US would ban all Mexicans from LEGALLY entering their country. or Mexico would ban ALL americans from entering.
its harsh and radical step, basically it means that Ukraine considers itself to be at the state of war with Russia...
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No, not smart at all. There are not many Russians who enter the Ukraine. Mostly those who have family members there or sex tourists (the Ukrainian girls are cheapest ones across the Europe and there are lots of beautiful ones).

In fact there are millions of Ukrainians who enter Russia. Those who have family members here or those who seek a job in Russia as plumbers, plasterers, prostitutes etc (just FYI: the Ukraine is a very poor country). So if Russia will close its borders to the Urkainian citizens, it will be yet another Maidan revolution in Kiev. The Ukrainians may be angry on Russian government (I do understand their feelings, because I hate Putin too), but they won't exist without a possibility to cross the Russian border.

So cross your finders and let's hope that Putin won't close the Russian border to the Ukrainian gastarbeiters and immigrants.
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Do you mean THIS? I also hope that Galichina won't be repeated there...

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They applied to join NATO in 2008.
So what if it will be accepted into NATO and Putin will invade it? Are you ready to die in the mutual nuclear strike between Russia and the USA? Are you ready to die for the Ukraine? Are you ready to look at your son vomiting with blood in two minutes before his death after a radioactive exposure? You want to be killed for a country which does exist for only 27 years? The country most of Americans won't be even able to spot on the world map? You must be a mentally ill motherfucker (much more ill than homosexuals, pedophiles and zoophiles) if you really want it.

A hint for stupid and uneducated morons who believe that Santa and Chuck Norris will protect them against 1000's on nuclear warheads: the Ukraine in NATO means death for the Earth, because both Russia and the USA have enough warheads to ruin the whole our planet for about 10x times. No country on our planet will survive that war. The Dead Hand aka "Perimeter" will take care of those who "will survive"...
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Until recently you could still enter as a russian man if you had an invitation from someone there...but now they have taken it one step further.
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CyberSeo,:
a) "Ukraine is very poor country" - just like Russia would be a rich country ??? step out of your Moscow bubble..
b) "not many Russians crossing Ukrainian border" - actually almost 1.5 million trips RU- UKR. A lot or not ?
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Do you mean THIS? I also hope that Galichina won't be repeated there...

of course, 100 % of Russians were innocent by your opinion ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ho...armed _forces
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a) "Ukraine is very poor country" - just like Russia would be a rich country ??? step out of your Moscow bubble..
Russia can not be even compared to the Ukraine. If you speak about Moscow, go compare it with Kiev. If you want to speak about Kazan, go compare it with Lviv.

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b) "not many Russians crossing Ukrainian border" - actually almost 1.5 million trips RU- UKR. A lot or not ?
Yes, I said above: visiting family members, sex tourists etc (if you read that article you should note the purpose of these visits). Now look at the amount of the Ukrainians that enter Russia every year.

To be honest, I don't get your post. Do you know how many Ukrainians leave their homeland every year? I don't mean some vacations, temporary work seekers etc. I mean those who move to other countries forever. One frickin' million of of Ukrainians move to EU, Russia, Belarus etc... every year.
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of course, 100 % of Russians were innocent by your opinion ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ho...armed _forces
Are you an idiot? We had Vlasov and his pro-Nazi army. The difference is that Vlasov was hunged and his gang was eliminated by the Soviet Army. While the Ukrainian Nazis are the national heroes in Kiev today. Do you really that dumb and can't see the difference?

Vlasov (3rd to the right) and his commanders:



The Ukrainian Veteran of Galichina SS army today:



Still can't see the difference? Show me a single picture of a former Hitler army veterans parade in Russia. You can't, right? On the other hand I can show you many of those in the Ukraine. A free hint: Russia and Israel are two countries that have no statute of limitations for those who worked for Nazis during WWII.
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A free hint: Russia and Israel are two countries that have no statute of limitations for those who worked for Nazis during WWII.
$1 usd hint: In Poland is the same
It also includes communist crimes (which were much less common of course)

btw. Do they teach already in (Soviet) Russia about Molotov- Ribbentrop pact, and how USSR was great ally to Nazis until 1941 ? And how they divided and attacked Poland together ?
Or its still something forbidden ?

https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/...d-war-ii-57930
Russian prosecuted for posting that USSR invaded Poland in 1939 denied asylum in Czech Republic - Human Rights in Ukraine


yes yes, please feel free now to silence AWAY this post

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ps. btw where does the 1st pic that u posted come from ? any link for article/full disclosure? which year was taken, where, what occasion etc ? it looks like a cheap photoshop, is it or is not ?
Answer Celandina, dont be shy, stand up for your words, dont be like Russian troll
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Russia can not be even compared to the Ukraine. If you speak about Moscow, go compare it with Kiev. If you want to speak about Kazan, go compare it with Lviv.
Russia is maybe richer than Ukraine overall, but not that much. 20 % max these days. Im talking about the average basket of products available for average salary in average place and work
Russians get more money, but they also pay more I think.
With which Russian city would you compare Odessa ? Lets make a comparison
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Sounds like a good idea because there's nothing good about the phrase "Russian men".
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Celandina, please dont post pics of nazi criminals and volunteers here, because it makes me sick and vomit.

Also, dont post Russian propaganda. Nobody is stupid here to fell for that shit. Unless you really believe in that, then sorry for you.
The fact is, that Russia destabilizes Ukraine since 2014. its not Ukraine that invaded/occupied/ Russian territory, but the opposite. And that's the fact.

ps. btw where does the 1st pic that u posted come from ? any link for article/full disclosure? which year was taken, where, what occasion etc ? it looks like a cheap photoshop, is it or is not ?
Learn your history and do not be upset that I am remaining you of that, I have NO axe to grind with either side I just study history. And most important I do NOT post Russian propaganda.

And as to the photos ( and many others) are mostly from reputable museums NO photoshop.

Oleg Buzina one of the officers:



Or read this book ( from Amazon not Amazonski )

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I fail to understand why NATO isn't rushing in tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine right now. Too bad our leaders don't have balls.
Because they are not stupid to give Putin the excuse to start WW 3. Ehm the Second Great Patriotic war...
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Because they are not stupid to give Putin the excuse to start WW 3. Ehm the Second Great Patriotic war...
World War III? What an ignorant thing to say

You think anyone's going to come to the defense of Russia invading other countries give me a fucking break. Russia can't afford a war
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Learn your history and do not be upset that I am remaining you of that, I have NO axe to grind with either side I just study history. And most important I do NOT post Russian propaganda.

And as to the photos ( and many others) are mostly from reputable museums NO photoshop.

Oleg Buzina one of the officers:



Or read this book ( from Amazon not Amazonski )

I know about history of ww2 and SS galizien probably more than you..
My question was exactly ABOUT ONE PHOTO, where cleric puts the holy water into guy in SS uniforms: THE FIRST photo that you posted in your post before.
So answer the question please that I posted before about THIS ONE photo.
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They applied to join NATO in 2008.

This scared Putin, so he fucked their election and installed Viktor Yanukovych as their POTUS who put joining NATO on hold. Since ousting Yanukovych and his government, they're now in the MAP approval process.

You have the fucking Turks in NATO ( Putins buddy Erdogan) and now you want to add the "chocolate oligarch" God help the Western Europe.
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Patriotic war...

yeah, right
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A hint for stupid and uneducated morons who believe that Santa and Chuck Norris will protect them against 1000's on nuclear warheads: the Ukraine in NATO means death for the Earth, because both Russia and the USA have enough warheads to ruin the whole our planet for about 10x times. No country on our planet will survive that war. The Dead Hand aka "Perimeter" will take care of those who "will survive"...
I usually disagree but this time you are 100 % correct
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Do you mean THIS? I also hope that Galichina won't be repeated there...


To be fair to the Ukrainians these was a Latvian pogrom
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World War III? What an ignorant thing to say

You think anyone's going to come to the defense of Russia invading other countries give me a fucking break. Russia can't afford a war
You have drank the koolaid you cannot be helped
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of course, silence again from Ruski poster.
If you confront Ruskie with something that its a lie, manipulation not true, their mistake, whatever, basically what Ruski always does when caught with smoking gun.->>> he will either:
a) try to silence it off, like nothing happpened. Later he will repeat the same lie later.
b) try to change topic of the discussion - once again silence it off.
c) try subvert it somehow the other way

Just like their government does
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Nobody with power will back Russia other than Turkey and all the Stans and they are all weak.
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So cross your finders and let's hope that Putin won't close the Russian border to the Ukrainian gastarbeiters and immigrants.

They count on the EU to pay for it and/or to open borders.
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"Ukraine has blocked Russian men aged between 16 and 60 from entering the country in a sweeping ban that will affect travel for hundreds of thousands of people."

thats pretty harsh move....
Attacking and capturing navel vessels is also a pretty harsh move.. So is attacking a sovereign nation and stealing part of it..
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They count on the EU to pay for it and/or to open borders.
... and they will take all parking spots in Amsterdam ! Just those that are still left after Polish invasion !
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Russia is maybe richer than Ukraine overall, but not that much.
It is about 10x times more.
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It is about 10x times more.
u saying that average Russian has 10 times bigger purchasing power than average Ukrainian ?
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u saying that average Russian has 10 times bigger purchasing power than average Ukrainian ?
Yes. I also say that 9 or 10 prostitutes in Moscow are Ukrainians. This is not a secret for anyone here and there. Guess who did my bathroom and toilet?
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Old 12-01-2018, 12:54 PM   #46
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They applied to join NATO in 2008.
So you are saying baddog is correct. A first time for everything I guess.
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Old 12-01-2018, 12:57 PM   #47
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Guess who did my bathroom and toilet?
sir u so powerful
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Old 12-01-2018, 01:13 PM   #48
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So powerful to have may toilet made by the Ukrainian workers army.
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Old 12-01-2018, 06:42 PM   #49
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topic is about sth different...its not if Ukraine is part of NATO or not, its about Ukraine banning ALL Russian men 18-60 from crossing its borders. ALL of them. Its like US would ban all Mexicans from LEGALLY entering their country. or Mexico would ban ALL americans from entering.
its harsh and radical step, basically it means that Ukraine considers itself to be at the state of war with Russia...
craziness
Quit trying to sugar coat your bullshit.. Russia has attacked and still attacking Ukraine.. They shouldn't even let Russian women in..
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Old 12-01-2018, 11:56 PM   #50
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Russia has attacked and still attacking Ukraine..
I envy you simple black-white view
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