Trump claims wind turbine 'noise causes cancer'

[2MuchMark]

Yes, fuckhead said that.

“If you have a windmill anywhere near your house, congratulations, your house just went down 75 percent in value. And they say the noise causes cancer,” the president said while delivering remarks at the National Republican Congressional Committee's annual spring dinner. He offered no evidence to support the claim.

Video at https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...do0T9BBVXjif84

[~Ray]

I believe they call it infrasound.

Infrasound, sometimes referred to as low-frequency sound, is sound that is lower in frequency than 20 Hz or cycles per second, the "normal" limit of human hearing.

Supposedly, it's not safe to live within 15 km of a wind turbine.

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Yes, fuckhead said that.

Video at https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...do0T9BBVXjif84

Which part is untrue?

German wind energy protest site windwahn.com here presents a brand new paper showing that infrasound-induced changes in brain activity are visible and proven.

The findings thus suggest that the health impacts by the low-frequency sound waves generated by industrial wind turbines in fact do adversely affect human health, a claim that has often been denied by Big Wind.

.."stimulation over longer periods of time could exert a profound effect on autonomic functions and may eventually lead to the formation of symptoms such as sleep disturbances, panic attacks or depression:

Wind Farm Victim’s Smoking Gun: German Research Reveals Infrasound Exposure Causes Stress, Sleep Disruption & More

Home Wreckers: Finnish Study Finds Wind Turbine Infrasound Unsafe For Residents Living Within 15 Km

So in *some* people who have other risk factors, the infrasound can aggravate those risk factors causing symptoms that could eventually lead to cancer or other serious problems.

There is plenty of evidence that the infrasound is harmful to livestock:

DO WIND TURBINES HARM ANIMALS?

incidences of mass die-offs of farm animals, chickens laying soft-shelled eggs, high animal miscarriage rates and disappearance of wildlife near turbines provide pause for reflection.

One sheep farmer in Waterloo, Australia had a three-fold spike in birth defects since the turbines started operating. This year, lambs have been born with no ears, three legs and hoofs turned backwards, the Australian newspaper reported.

In Germany, a dozen dead porpoises washed ashore near the site of a newly completed wind farm and authorities did not rule out the wind facility as potential causes.

Discovery Magazine reported that a Taiwanese farmer blames the death of 400 goats on a nearby wind facility. His claim is backed up by a local livestock inspector who said unusual sounds can impact animals’ appetite, growth and sleep.

Dr. Nina Pierpont, author of Wind Turbine Syndrome, interviewed a horse breeder who lost six of eight babies after wind turbines were erected nearby his breeding mares. Some aborted early, others had no milk and others didn’t conceive.

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Sorry Mark, Trump is right.

[TheSquealer]

If the last 2 1/2 years have taught us anything, its that Liberals hate their own nation, it's government and it's success.

[klinton]

OP, would u like to live close to wind turbine ?
stand for your words and live 300 meters to it.
is not harmful, isnt it ?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

Which part is untrue?



Wind Farm Victim’s Smoking Gun: German Research Reveals Infrasound Exposure Causes Stress, Sleep Disruption & More

Home Wreckers: Finnish Study Finds Wind Turbine Infrasound Unsafe For Residents Living Within 15 Km

So in *some* people who have other risk factors, the infrasound can aggravate those risk factors causing symptoms that could eventually lead to cancer or other serious problems.

There is plenty of evidence that the infrasound is harmful to livestock:

DO WIND TURBINES HARM ANIMALS?



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Sorry Mark, Trump is right.

You linked to 2 alt-right wingbat sources you fucking lying troll.

You always lie because lies is all that the alt-right & Trump have.

You are a lie. That's your life 24/7

Think what kind of scum you are in real life. A shitbag nobody wants to know. Jump in front of a fast moving train you lying piece of shit.

You've killed this forum with your fake nics, lies & hate just die asshole The cancer in your gut can't be cured

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You linked to 2 alt-right wingbat sources you fucking lying troll.

You always lie because lies is all that the alt-right & Trump have.

You are a lie. That's your life 24/7

Think what kind of scum you are in real life. A shitbag nobody wants to know. Jump in front of a fast moving train you lying piece of shit.

You've killed this forum with your fake nics, lies & hate just die asshole The cancer in your gut can't be cured

LOL!!!!!

So you're saying that East County Magazine, from San Diego, is an "alt-right wingbat source"?? And the 2 women who wrote the article are Trump supporters? LOL!!

So i guess this German research study is totally made up?

^^ BladeLIAR the unhinged lunatic is so desperate to make Trump look bad that he doesn't mind windfarms making people and animals living nearby unhealthy & sick! Sorry but public health is a non-partisan issue you lunatic!

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by klinton

OP, would u like to live close to wind turbine ?
stand for your words and live 300 meters to it.
is not harmful, isnt it ?

There are wind turbines just outside of Montreal - I have visited them up close. They make sound that for sure some would call annoying. But dangerous? No.

When I was a kid my family and I used to live in Montreal East. We were about half a mile away from an oil refinery (Texaco I think). Not only was it noisy, there were smoke stacks pouring out all kinds of things, along with giant torches burning off excess oil.

As a kid I thought it looked like a city because it was all lit up at night. And when my Dad and I would return from a weekend trip to our country house in St. Sauveur Quebec, the incredible smell would it us as we came close. My dad would joke "Ah, we can smell your Mothers cooking" and laugh it off, but I could also see it worried him. We would not normally notice the smell living there all the time, but we always noticed it after returning from the fresh air of the St. Sauveur mountains.

The smell wasn't the worst of it. Some days there was a yellow haze through the entire neighbourhood. You could "taste" the smell.

My dad told me that before I was born, that there was a big explosion at the oil refinery that was so hot, it melted all of the snow off the roofs for several of miles around the plant, and that the sky was as bright as a sunset even at 3 in the morning during the fire.

My Dad, my Mom and my sister all died of cancer.

So would I like to live near a Windmill? Fuck yes - I would take that over living near another oil refinery any day. No question man, no question.

[King Mark]

So, everyone in Holland is dead?

Rightards have got to retrain on their scare-tactics.

[CaptainHowdy]

So funny . . .

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Acepimp;22445951
So i guess [URL="https://stopthesethings.com/2017/04/30/wind-farm-victims-smoking-gun-german-research-reveals-infrasound-exposure-causes-stress-sleep-disruption-more/"

this German research study[/URL] is totally made up?

[/SIZE]

I read this article - you know its not well written, right? And could you also say that maybe its just a little bias?

[2MuchMark]

Update:

Fact Check: No Link Between Wind Farms and Cancer Like Trump Claimed
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ocHvgL81rQaqkg

what a dumbass.

[klinton]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

So would I like to live near a Windmill? Fuck yes - I would take that over living near another oil refinery any day. No question man, no question.

I never said that fossils are better than renewable energy. last one is obviously much better, but living close to turbines is not good for health. Just this. Yeah, its better than polluting planet for millions and the whole earth, but still - noone wants to live close to wind farms, thats why they build them outside of everything (usually)

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Dead Eye

So, everyone in Holland is dead?

Rightards have got to retrain on their scare-tactics.

I am guessing you have never visited the Netherlands if you think there are windmills everywhere.

[RedFred]

No one needs to live near them anyway. Just move the 50 people that live in Wyoming to Texas and fill up that windy shithole with windmills.

[crockett]

Yep windmills cause cancer...




We don't call Red Hats the dumbs for nuffins..

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by klinton

I never said that fossils are better than renewable energy. last one is obviously much better, but living close to turbines is not good for health.

Says who? And why?

If you want to say that the noise someone might be subjected to living close to a wind turbine could cause stress, and that stress can lead to earlier than expected death, but is that it? Is that the whole argument? Sound doesn't cause cancer.




East enders live, on average, 9 years less than other Montrealers
East enders live, on average, 9 years less than other Montrealers


What would you rather have in your back yard?

This?


Or this?


Give me blue skies and clear air over grey skies and smog anyday.

[Smack dat]

Living too close to wind turbines can cause heart disease, tinnitus, vertigo, panic attacks, migraines and sleep deprivation, according to groundbreaking research to be published later this year by an American doctor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_turbine_syndrome

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Says who? And why?

If you want to say that the noise someone might be subjected to living close to a wind turbine could cause stress, and that stress can lead to earlier than expected death, but is that it? Is that the whole argument? Sound doesn't cause cancer.

It's no the sound, Mark. It's the low-frequency infrasound.

The findings thus suggest that the health impacts by the low-frequency sound waves generated by industrial wind turbines in fact do adversely affect human health, a claim that has often been denied by Big Wind.

.."stimulation over longer periods of time could exert a profound effect on autonomic functions and may eventually lead to the formation of symptoms such as sleep disturbances, panic attacks or depression:

So in *some* people who have other risk factors, the infrasound can aggravate those risk factors causing symptoms that could eventually lead to cancer or other serious problems.

Come on Mark, I thought you were all about science. This is not a partisan issue. Your hatred of Trump has blinded you to the facts.

[Busty2]

Conclusions
The dominant source of wind turbine low frequency noise, LFN (20–200 Hz), is incoming turbulence interaction with the blade. Infrasound (1–20 Hz) from wind turbines is not audible at close range and even less so at distances where residents are living. There is no evidence that infrasound at these levels contributes to perceived annoyance or other health effects. LFN from modern wind turbines are audible at typical levels in residential settings, but the levels do not exceed levels from other common noise sources, such as road traffic noise. Although new and large wind turbines may generate more LFN than old and small turbines, the expected increase in LFN is small.

Wind turbine noise is associated with residential noise annoyance. It has been found that 10–20% of residents are annoyed, and about 6% are very annoyed by wind turbine noise at levels between 35 and 40 dB (LAeq, at 8 m s − 1 wind speed at 10 m height). The main cause of annoyance seems to be the pulsating swish sound produced when the blades pass through the air. This sound has its main energy in the frequency range of 500–1000 Hz.

Except for noise annoyance, no consistent effects on health due to wind turbine noise have been reported. However, a statistically significant association between wind turbine noise and self-reported sleep disturbance was found in two studies.

It has been argued that infrasound and low frequency noise from wind turbines may cause serious health effects in the form of 'vibroacoustic disease', 'wind turbine syndrome' or harmful infrasound effects on the inner ear. However, empirical supports for these claims are lacking.


https://iopscience.iop.org/article/1...326/6/3/035103


But But But they give you cancer !!!! MORONS

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by Smack dat

Living too close to wind turbines can cause heart disease, tinnitus, vertigo, panic attacks, migraines and sleep deprivation, according to groundbreaking research to be published later this year by an American doctor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_turbine_syndrome

Did you even read the link you posted?


Wind turbine syndrome has been characterized as pseudoscience.

[Smack dat]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Yes, fuckhead said that.

Video at https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...do0T9BBVXjif84

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You linked to 2 alt-right wingbat sources you fucking lying troll.

You always lie because lies is all that the alt-right & Trump have.

You are a lie. That's your life 24/7

Think what kind of scum you are in real life. A shitbag nobody wants to know. Jump in front of a fast moving train you lying piece of shit.

You've killed this forum with your fake nics, lies & hate just die asshole The cancer in your gut can't be cured

Originally Posted by RedFred

Did you even read the link you posted?


Wind turbine syndrome has been characterized as pseudoscience.

Maybe the post wasn't clear. There are two parts. The first text was a quote from a scientist that had been studying the effects of wind farms for 5 years.

The wiki link was just to point users to more info on wind turbine syndrome.

[directfiesta]

I heard it causes E.D......

[Acepimp]

Yes it's all fake, all of these people (and animals) are just making it up!





And while the clueless libbies are busy bashing Trump, he has caused half the country to start researching and getting the facts.. another stroke of genius from Trump

TRUMP 2020

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by Smack dat

Living too close to wind turbines can cause heart disease, tinnitus, vertigo, panic attacks, migraines and sleep deprivation, according to groundbreaking research to be published later this year by an American doctor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_turbine_syndrome

From your link:

The distribution of recorded events, however, correlates with media coverage of wind farm syndrome itself, and not with the presence or absence of wind farms.[3][4] Neither term is recognised by any international disease classification system, nor do they appear in any title or abstract in the United States National Library of Medicine's PubMed database.[5] Wind turbine syndrome has been characterized as pseudoscience.

You failed at debate team 101.

[Smack dat]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

From your link:



You failed at debate team 101.

Read the previous message dumbass.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Smack dat

Living too close to wind turbines can cause heart disease, tinnitus, vertigo, panic attacks, migraines and sleep deprivation, according to groundbreaking research to be published later this year by an American doctor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_turbine_syndrome

Is this the same doctor who is the anti vaxxer...

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by Smack dat

Read the previous message dumbass.

You're the dumbass that quoted the conflicting quote and link.

Fuck you're a retard.