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Old Yesterday, 09:06 AM   #1
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Everything is dead, everything sucks, so how do you survive?

I hear that toplists are dead, TGPs are dead, traffic trading is dead, Google gives less and less with each update, social networks ban adult, paid traffic does not convert and is a scam, so how do you fuckers survive nowadays? What doesn't suck sweaty balls?

I am seriously confused.
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Old Yesterday, 09:11 AM   #2
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Old Yesterday, 09:13 AM   #3
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Adapt to what? What is the sector/approach that still works for adult industry to getting traffic?
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Old Yesterday, 10:32 AM   #4
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Adapt to what? What is the sector/approach that still works for adult industry to getting traffic?
Goals, strat, competition, determination, profit, invest. Good luck
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Old Yesterday, 10:41 AM   #5
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I hear that toplists are dead, TGPs are dead, traffic trading is dead, Google gives less and less with each update, social networks ban adult, paid traffic does not convert and is a scam, so how do you fuckers survive nowadays? What doesn't suck sweaty balls?

I am seriously confused.
Social networks like twitter and reddit are great for adult traffic, better than ever.
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Old Yesterday, 10:47 AM   #6
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So Twitter and Reddit? That's it? I mean as a webmaster, not as an onlyfans whore.
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Old Yesterday, 10:52 AM   #7
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I feel like it was a great historical mistake for webmasters to forward all agency to walled gardens such as various social networks, and abandon toplists and direct traffic trading. But it's done now, that's history. But how do you get visitors today? Really just simping over Twitter and Reddit?
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Old Yesterday, 11:19 AM   #8
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Most successful people in this business will gatekeep their methods, it will be very difficult to get any reasonable answer beyond 3 second quips like "You need more traffic" and "You might have to ADAPT or die" (adapt to what you might ask? I dunno, I just say the phrase).
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Old Yesterday, 11:23 AM   #9
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Most successful people in this business will gatekeep their methods, it will be very difficult to get any reasonable answer beyond 3 second quips like "You need more traffic" and "You might have to ADAPT or die" (adapt to what you might ask? I dunno, I just say the phrase).
Are you one of those successful people?
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Old Yesterday, 11:26 AM   #10
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Goals, strat, competition, determination, profit, invest. Good luck
This is just a list of generic phrases, no offence. How about real approaches that give actual results.
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Old Yesterday, 11:29 AM   #11
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paid traffic does not convert and is a scam
I spend 7 figures a year on paid traffic from sources that are available to anyone.
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Old Yesterday, 11:39 AM   #12
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I spend 7 figures a year on paid traffic from sources that are available to anyone.
What about your return? Which sources?
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Old Yesterday, 11:42 AM   #13
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What about your return? Which sources?


I started media buying in 2011 and lost hundreds of thousands along the way. Do your own work.
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So Twitter and Reddit? That's it? I mean as a webmaster, not as an onlyfans whore.
Thats it? They have more traffic than all former TGPs and MGPs combined. Reddit is basically another pornhub, you just need to be smarter with how to advertise there.
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Old Yesterday, 11:52 AM   #15
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So buying traffic and whoring out on reddit and twitter? That's all there is to it?
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Old Yesterday, 12:09 PM   #17
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So buying traffic and whoring out on reddit and twitter? That's all there is to it?
Look at all the porn, look where the links go, look at the ads.

"all there is to it"
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You should register allthereistoit.com and make a tube site
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Old Yesterday, 12:37 PM   #19
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You should register allthereistoit.com and make a tube site
I just opened that url and it forwarded me to your mother's profile page where she posted a photo of her cunt busted wide open. Do you own the domain?
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I just opened that url and it forwarded me to your mother's profile page where she posted a photo of her cunt busted wide open. Do you own the domain?
Dorothy Mantooth is a saint.
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SEO is far from dead providing you keep adapting
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Pick one traffic source and learn it inside and out until you make it work. Then consider other sources. Being an expert in one field is better than being average in a bunch... Good luck.
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you joined 19 years ago so what are you doing now? I can't imagine calling those who DO make money in the biz whores and simps will help your search for answers much

the thing about traffic is it's not just sources but granularity, testing, and yes losing money along the way

I know some like Fuze kill with it, but in adult or mainstream there is work and time and (esp in the case of media buying with all the trial and error initially) money involved

but outside traffic stuff you could do something crazy like create stuff peeps want to buy, or find free avenues to be an aff for what people want to buy. or build something fair and legit for the 'whores' who somehow manage to stay off the breadlines

or just go make a cb account and stream yourself stroking your dick for 5 bucks an hour. you have that kind of winner attitude


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alrighty then Mr Happy Train. whee!!
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Old Today, 06:01 AM   #27
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you joined 19 years ago so what are you doing now? I can't imagine calling those who DO make money in the biz whores and simps will help your search for answers much

the thing about traffic is it's not just sources but granularity, testing, and yes losing money along the way

I know some like Fuze kill with it, but in adult or mainstream there is work and time and (esp in the case of media buying with all the trial and error initially) money involved

but outside traffic stuff you could do something crazy like create stuff peeps want to buy, or find free avenues to be an aff for what people want to buy. or build something fair and legit for the 'whores' who somehow manage to stay off the breadlines

or just go make a cb account and stream yourself stroking your dick for 5 bucks an hour. you have that kind of winner attitude




alrighty then Mr Happy Train. whee!!
I'm just trying to get myself banned on GFY. Isn't it obvious, fuckface?
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