The US may deny Turkey F-35 sales — and now it may turn to Russia in a nightmare for NATO

[Sarn]

The US may deny Turkey F-35 sales — and now it may turn to Russia in a nightmare for NATO

The US Senate passed a defense spending bill recently that sought to prevent Turkey from getting the 100 F-35 stealth jets it ordered — and now Turkey could become the first buyer of Russia's Su-57 "stealth" jet killer if the bill becomes law.

But on the military side, Turkey, a NATO ally, poses another threat by buying Russia's S-400 missile defense system.

Retired US Air Force Lt. Gen. David Deptula told Business Insider that NATO countries "don't want to be networking in Russian systems into your air defenses" as it could lead to "technology transfer and possible compromises of F-35 advantages to the S-400."

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-d...18-6?r=US&IR=T

[crockett]

Turkey is no friend to the US or Nato nor Russia.. They should be removed from Nato. It's no longer a Democracy but a dictatorship.

Nato trying to appease Turkey by trying to stay friendly is a mistake because Turkey is no longer a member who can be trusted.


Also Turkey shot down Russian aircraft 2 or was it 3 times and Russia cowered away. Why is it you now try to use Turkey for your propaganda? Is it because they kicked your ass so now you are kissing theirs?

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by crockett

Turkey is no friend to the US or Nato.. They should be removed from Nato. It's no longer a Democracy but a dictatorship.

Nato trying to appease Turkey by trying to stay friendly is a mistake because Turkey is no longer a member who can be trusted.

the EU is no friend to turkey and neither is the USA...real talk...

they should go with the russians...better deal, better tech...

[crockett]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

the EU is no friend to turkey and neither is the USA...real talk...

they should go with the russians...better deal, better tech...

Turkey kicked your ass now you kiss theirs why?

[Bladewire]

Trump is in over his head as usual but I'm glad scumbag dictators like Erdoğan are not getting our war technology

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by crockett

Turkey kicked your ass now you kiss theirs why?

it was 100+ years ago...turks of today are really nice..,

[Sarn]

U.S., Egypt: Washington Threatens Sanctions Over Russian Arms Deal

During a Senate budget hearing on April 9, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced that the United States would penalize Egypt under the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) should Egypt buy Russian Su-35 fighter jets. A bipartisan group of U.S. senators sent a letter to Pompeo before the hearing, urging him to pressure Egypt to avoid the arms deal while Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi was in Washington. Pompeo responded to the senators' concerns by saying he believed Egypt understood the warning, and he said he was hopeful it would not go through with any such deal.
https://worldview.stratfor.com/artic...sian-arms-deal

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Sarn

U.S., Egypt: Washington Threatens Sanctions Over Russian Arms Deal

During a Senate budget hearing on April 9, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced that the United States would penalize Egypt under the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) should Egypt buy Russian Su-35 fighter jets. A bipartisan group of U.S. senators sent a letter to Pompeo before the hearing, urging him to pressure Egypt to avoid the arms deal while Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi was in Washington. Pompeo responded to the senators' concerns by saying he believed Egypt understood the warning, and he said he was hopeful it would not go through with any such deal.
https://worldview.stratfor.com/artic...sian-arms-deal

"if you do not buy weapons from us we will bash you!" - US gangster government

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by crockett

Turkey is no friend to the US or Nato nor Russia.. They should be removed from Nato. It's no longer a Democracy but a dictatorship.

Nato trying to appease Turkey by trying to stay friendly is a mistake because Turkey is no longer a member who can be trusted.


Also Turkey shot down Russian aircraft 2 or was it 3 times and Russia cowered away. Why is it you now try to use Turkey for your propaganda? Is it because they kicked your ass so now you are kissing theirs?

22 Turkish Air Force pilots killed

According to Turkish Ulke TV station, the victims of the February 17 terrorist attack in Ankara include 22 Turkish Air Force pilots, out of 28 total fatalities.

The Turkish government has not issued an official confirmation but, according to Turkish media, Erdogan is deliberately trying to conceal that fact.

The explosion took place next to the Turkish Armed Forces headquarters building, as well as the parliament and government buildings. The fatalities included 26 military and 2 civilians. Another 60 people were wounded.
https://horizonweekly.ca/en/81146-2/

Turkey does not have enough personnel for Nato planes. Russian war machine start works, why we not must sell weapon?

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

"if you do not buy weapons from us we will bash you!" - US gangster government

weapon it is a serious business))

Stealth Allies? Why Russia Could Sell Its Su-57 Fighter To China

Would Moscow really do it?

Having formally cleared the Su-57 for export earlier this month, Russia is poised to pitch their fifth-generation fighter to China.

Speaking at the LIMA-2019 Aerospace and Maritime exhibition, Rostec official Viktor Kladov looked to the future of the Sino-Russian arms trade: "China has recently taken delivery of 24 Su-35 aircraft, and in the next two years [China] will make a decision to either procure additional Su-35s, build the Su-35 within China, or to buy a fifth-generation fighter aircraft. This could be another opportunity for the Su-57E."

It is not yet clear how, or if, the “Su-57E” export variant differs from the base Su-57 design; those answers could be forthcoming at this year’s Dubai Airshow, hinted Kladov
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/bu...er-china-51212

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Sarn

weapon it is a serious business))

Stealth Allies? Why Russia Could Sell Its Su-57 Fighter To China

Would Moscow really do it?

Having formally cleared the Su-57 for export earlier this month, Russia is poised to pitch their fifth-generation fighter to China.

Speaking at the LIMA-2019 Aerospace and Maritime exhibition, Rostec official Viktor Kladov looked to the future of the Sino-Russian arms trade: "China has recently taken delivery of 24 Su-35 aircraft, and in the next two years [China] will make a decision to either procure additional Su-35s, build the Su-35 within China, or to buy a fifth-generation fighter aircraft. This could be another opportunity for the Su-57E."

It is not yet clear how, or if, the “Su-57E” export variant differs from the base Su-57 design; those answers could be forthcoming at this year’s Dubai Airshow, hinted Kladov
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/bu...er-china-51212

yes they should...it is important to arm up to keep the invaders away...anything that pisses off the invader is welcome

[celandina]

Just do not let them into the EU...We are trying to keep them out of Europe for 1000 years!

As far as NATO is concerned it is irrelevant.... it admitted small irrelevant states like Montefuckingnegro and Fucking Baltics who will want us to fight their wars with Russia and other Slavs...Fucking Turks

[crockett]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

it was 100+ years ago...turks of today are really nice..,

They shot your jet down 3 years ago. You tried to violate their airspace and they shot your jet down..

[Struggle4Bucks]

[Struggle4Bucks]

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by crockett

They shot your jet down 3 years ago. You tried to violate their airspace and they shot your jet down..

Nonsense...serbia aint got no jet LOL

[Hawkeye]

Turkey should be kicked out of NATO and replaced with Russia.

The Cold War is over, and Russia has very close economic relations with Western and Central Europe, especially Germany.

The military-industrial complex won't like it, but it will be a huge step towards world peace.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Turkey should be kicked out of NATO and replaced with Russia.

The Cold War is over, and Russia has very close economic relations with Western and Central Europe, especially Germany.

The military-industrial complex won't like it, but it will be a huge step towards world peace.

Yup...russia is a much better ally than the USA

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Turkey should be kicked out of NATO and replaced with Russia.

The Cold War is over, and Russia has very close economic relations with Western and Central Europe, especially Germany.

The military-industrial complex won't like it, but it will be a huge step towards world peace.

EU-Russia trade has continuously decreased since 2012, dropping by 44% between 2012 and 2016 from €339 billion in 2012 to €191 billion in 2016.
Russia - Trade - European Commission

Bilateral trade volume between the two countries, which amounted to $15.8 billion in 2003, has increased more than 6 times over the last 10 years, reaching $95.3 billion in 2014.
According to forecasts, bilateral commerce could grow up to $100 billion in 2015 and if the two countries continue to nurture the right conditions for trade investment growth, it is likely to reach $200 billion by 2020. The total trading value between China & Russia has grown 17.8 % p.a. in the past 11 years.
Russia-China Trade

Russia’s trade with China surges to more than $107 billion
https://www.rt.com/business/448783-r...rade-turnover/

[klinton]

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks

[King Mark]

Lol, scared af about turkey being able to defend itself. Weirdos.

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by celandina

Just do not let them into the EU...We are trying to keep them out of Europe for 1000 years!

As far as NATO is concerned it is irrelevant.... it admitted small irrelevant states like Montefuckingnegro and Fucking Baltics who will want us to fight their wars with Russia and other Slavs...Fucking Turks

Turkey in perspective it BIG energy(refugies) hub for EU.

Putin stresses importance of Akkuyu NPP, Turkish Stream for European energy security
TASS: Business & Economy - Putin stresses importance of Akkuyu NPP, Turkish Stream for European energy security

[celandina]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Turkey should be kicked out of NATO and replaced with Russia.

The Cold War is over, and Russia has very close economic relations with Western and Central Europe, especially Germany.

The military-industrial complex won't like it, but it will be a huge step towards world peace.

I agree with that concept, but first you would need to kick out ALL the warmongering countries like The Baltics and any country ending with .....ia. Really, it would be better just to dissolve it and just have Russia cut the deal with the EU. And when Ukraine elects the actor as its president, give him an offer he cannot refuse...."Crimea was and always will be Russian" ( unless the Turks take it back ) ,so fuck off.

[Sarn]

Putin congratulates Kim on reelection to top post in North Korea
https://thehill.com/policy/internati...-post-in-north

Kim Jong-un to Visit Vladimir Putin in Russia
Report comes days after negotiations collapsed between North Korea’s leader and U.S. President Trump.
https://www.thetrumpet.com/18723-kim...utin-in-russia

Today news.

The European Union not the main trading partner of Russia now, Lavrov noted
https://ria.ru/20190413/1552665104.html

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

Yup...russia is a much better ally than the USA

Russia breaks every deal they make you do anything to defend your motherland even though a lying dictator has taken control of it.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Russia breaks every deal they make you do anything to defend your motherland even though a lying dictator has taken control of it.

All true but they are still better than you guys...your one party more than a dictatorship auctions are hardly democracy either...your corruption was just renamed to lobbying...

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

All true but they are still better than you guys...your one party more than a dictatorship auctions are hardly democracy either...your corruption was just renamed to lobbying...

What true? You run away first.