US Government Loses The Great Vaccine Debate - Del Bigtree

[wehateporn]

[Bladewire]

Fake news from blocked alt-right hate fake nic troll

[RedFred]

Do you blame your retardation on a vaccine?

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Fake news from blocked alt-right hate fake nic troll

You probably should watch it so as you know what it's about

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by RedFred

Do you blame your retardation on a vaccine?

I blame the retardation of the latest generations on the expanding vaccine schedule

[TheSquealer]

A person with no medical training whatsoever and not even so much as the slightest understanding of neurobiology, much less what Autism even is... has all kinds of medical opinions and "educates doctors" (his words).


Sounds legit.

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

I blame the retardation of the latest generations on the expanding vaccine schedule

I that that as a yes.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

A person with no medical training whatsoever and not even so much as the slightest understanding of neurobiology, much less what Autism even is... has all kinds of medical opinions and "educates doctors" (his words).


Sounds legit.

with a youtube video no less!

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

A person with no medical training whatsoever and not even so much as the slightest understanding of neurobiology, much less what Autism even is... has all kinds of medical opinions and "educates doctors" (his words).


Sounds legit.

He's making the point that the necessary research has not been performed, if the industry is not doing the required research we have a big problem, as that means the current vaccines are no more than shots in the dark.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by RedFred

I that that as a yes.

I'm quite old actually, so didn't receive them

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

with a youtube video no less!

There are many ways to share information, video is one way. I'm sure if it was a video with a pro-vaccine conclusion you'd be licking your screen.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

He's making the point that the necessary research has not been performed, if the industry is not doing the required research we have a big problem, as that means the current vaccines are no more than shots in the dark.

no.... YOU'RE continually making the point that you have a narrative that you desperately want to defend and you spend all of your waking hours searching out any information you can find to validate and support that narrative.

At the same time, you happily dismiss any information which doesn't support that narrative while lecturing others on the need to "open their eyes".

I've forgotten more about the brain, neurobiology, neuroscience and psychology in the last 24 hours than you'll could possibly understand in the rest of your life.... so pardon me for not being moved by your idiocy and dangerous behavior and unrelenting attempts to get people to kill their children and spread disease.

I've got news for you. Educated people can be idiots. They can be paranoid. They can be delusional. They can be insane conspiracy theorists.... just as someone like you who is uneducated on the topic can be. It's nice that you all find each other and have something in common but leave the rest of society out of your insane circle jerk of paranoid fantasies and wishing death and disease upon children.

[pimpmaster9000]

everybody in my country is vaccinated...its free...there are around 45.000 people with autism in my country and like 7 million serbs...so its 1 in 155...now there are several causes of autism...for arguments sake lets say vaccines cause half of all the cases just for arguments sake...that is 1 in 300...vaccines prevent the following diseases:

diphtheria,
Haemophilus influenzae serotype b infection,
hepatitis B,
measles,
meningitis,
mumps,
pertussis,
poliomyelitis,
rubella,
tetanus,
tuberculosis,
and yellow fever.

a vaccine is a 1 in 300 chance of autism ONCE in your life...the above diseases combined carry a much much greater risk every year of your natural life...tuberculosis alone took 20.000 lives in one year in the USA...with all the diseases above we are talking in the 100.000s of dead each year without vaccination...we are talking about MILLIONS of infected who will survive but have to take medication and the medication will have side effects as well..."no vaccine" does not excuse you from the effects of the disease or the side effects of the medication...or death...

not to mention the trillions this would cost to healthcare...these are serious serious diseases...the no vaxxers like to pretend like avoiding potential autism is a free pass to a long and healthy life

OP...your documentary is bullshit...didnt watch BTW

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

no.... YOU'RE continually making the point that you have a narrative that you desperately want to defend and you spend all of your waking hours searching out any information you can find to validate and support that narrative.

At the same time, you happily dismiss any information which doesn't support that narrative while lecturing others on the need to "open their eyes".

I've forgotten more about the brain, neurobiology and neuroscience in the last 24 hours than you'll understand in the rest of your life.... so pardon me for not being moved by your idiocy and dangerous behavior and unrelenting attempts to get people to kill their children and spread disease.

I've got news for you. Educated people can be idiots. They can be paranoid. They can be delusional. They can be insane conspiracy theorists.... just as someone like you who is uneducated on the topic can be. It's nice that you all find each other and have something in common but leave the rest of society out of your insane circle jerk fantasies and wishing death and disease upon children.

TheSquealer,

One day you'll look into this topic and realize you've been lied to, it's very easy to see when you actually put time into it. So far you are being lazy-minded and complacent, you are better than this, please open you mind and put the necessary time in.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

everybody in my country is vaccinated...its free...there are around 45.000 people with autism in my country and like 7 million serbs...so its 1 in 155...now there are several causes of autism...for arguments sake lets say vaccines cause half of all the cases just for arguments sake...that is 1 in 300...vaccines prevent the following diseases:

diphtheria,
Haemophilus influenzae serotype b infection,
hepatitis B,
measles,
meningitis,
mumps,
pertussis,
poliomyelitis,
rubella,
tetanus,
tuberculosis,
and yellow fever.

a vaccine is a 1 in 300 chance of autism ONCE in your life...the above diseases combined carry a much much greater risk every year of your natural life...tuberculosis alone took 20.000 lives in one year in the USA...with all the diseases above we are talking in the 100.000s of dead each year without vaccination...we are talking about MILLIONS of infected who will survive but have to take medication and the medication will have side effects as well..."no vaccine" does not excuse you from the effects of the disease or the side effects of the medication...or death...

not to mention the trillions this would cost to healthcare...these are serious serious diseases...the no vaxxers like to pretend like avoiding potential autism is a free pass to a long and healthy life

OP...your documentary is bullshit...didnt watch BTW

crucifissio,

If they were so confident that vaccines were bringing a net benefit then they'd do the required research, as it will shut all of the researchers and doctors up who aren't happy with vaccines, but no, they won't go near any kind of well designed research, they refuse to fund it.

By the way, we're not just talking about autism here, we're also talking about other types of harm being caused by vaccines such as asthma, epilepsy, autoimmune diseases, cancers etc.

Short-term mild viruses are not very profitable to the pharmaceuticals, whereas lifelong vaccine-induced disease is, it creates customers for life dependent on pharma drugs.

Crucifissio you have a very good understanding of how the Western Empire operates, I have faith that once you look into vaccines you will realize that this is how they sow the seeds of disease, essentially adding a tax to be paid to Big Pharma for the monthly drugs required to treat the vaccine-induced symptoms.

[Rochard]

I read an article about this the other day... People who aren't immunized are getting the measles. Is what it is.


https://www.everydayhealth.com/measl...rates-decline/

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

crucifissio,

If they were so confident that vaccines were bringing a net benefit then they'd do the required research, as it will shut all of the researchers and doctors up who aren't happy with vaccines, but no, they won't go near any kind of well designed research, they refuse to fund it.

By the way, we're not just talking about autism here, we're also talking about other types of harm being caused by vaccines such as asthma, epilepsy, autoimmune diseases, cancers etc.

Short-term mild viruses are not very profitable to the pharmaceuticals, whereas lifelong vaccine-induced disease is, it creates customers for life dependent on pharma drugs.

Crucifissio you have a very good understanding of how the Western Empire operates, I have faith that once you look into vaccines you will realize that this is how they sow the seeds of disease, essentially adding a tax to be paid to Big Pharma for the monthly drugs required to treat the vaccine-induced symptoms.

I trust my commie doctors when they vaccinated me...they have 0 reason to lie...our pharmacy industry was commie as well...0 incentive...vaccines here are routine...

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I read an article about this the other day... People who aren't immunized are getting the measles. Is what it is.


https://www.everydayhealth.com/measl...rates-decline/

The most important point to take away is that the vaccine is more dangerous than measles

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

I trust my commie doctors when they vaccinated me...they have 0 reason to lie...our pharmacy industry was commie as well...0 incentive...vaccines here are routine...

They are trusting the information they have been given, one has to go to the top, to the research itself to see that it is flawed, vaccines are allowed to bypass real science, it is assumed from the start that they bring a net benefit so are given a golden ticket to market.

I don’t know much about doctors in Serbia, but in countries like US and UK there are carrots and stricks to control them

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

One day you'll look into this topic and realize you've been lied to, it's very easy to see when you actually put time into it. So far you are being lazy-minded and complacent, you are better than this, please open you mind and put the necessary time in.

Textbook reasoning of a lunatic. "If you don't believe what I believe, it's because you're inferior to me in some way"

The alternative to putting the blame on the other 99.99999% of society is honest and open self examination, self doubt, self questioning and a willingness to change ones views.... but your brain will resist that at all costs because that is the actual work that needs to be done, it's hard, it can be world shattering, it can tear down your own sense of self and your self identity and it will break down every wall you've frantically constructed over the years to rationalize your paranoid delusions and conspiracy theories... leaving you emotionally vulnerable, naked and exposed.

You don't believe what you believe because you are stronger than others. You believe what you believe because you are weaker than others.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Textbook reasoning of a lunatic. "If you don't believe what I believe, it's because you're inferior to me in some way"

The alternative to putting the blame on the other 99.99999% of society is honest and open self examination, self doubt, self questioning and a willingness to change ones views.... but your brain will resist that at all costs because that is the actual work that needs to be done, it's hard, it can be world shattering, it can tear down your own sense of self and your self identity and it will break down every wall you've frantically constructed over the years to rationalize your paranoid delusions and conspiracy theories... leaving you emotionally vulnerable, naked and exposed.

You don't believe what you believe because you are stronger than others. You believe what you believe because you are weaker than others.

You are not inferior to me, you just happen not to have spent much time on this topic, perhaps you find it boring. I am confident that you have the intellect to understand what is going on, but first you would need to get interested in the topic and take a closer look.

I have examined every vaccine in detail and drawn up risk/benefit ratios, I have also looked at combinations and added in products that are regularly given at the same time. I have found 2 vaccines that should be allowed, neither are currently in the US schedule, the rest of the vaccines should never have been allowed to market.

This is about numbers, about science, about not leaving things to chance, you are smart enough to research this yourself, I would like you to do so with an open mind, start by listening to presentations from the world experts who have been trying to get the word out for some time now.

[TheSquealer]

You're right... i haven't spent much time manically whipping myself into a frenzy to desperately defend some deeply held delusional belief of a massive worldwide conspiracy between governments, pharmaceutical companies, researchers and medical professionals to make children autistic... believing that the only people who have figured it out (conspiracy theorists) are the rational ones, holding rational beliefs despite any form of medical training whatsoever and not even having the slightest clue as to what Autism actually is, much less how the brain works.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

You're right... i haven't spent much time manically whipping myself into a frenzy to desperately defend some deeply held delusional belief of a massive worldwide conspiracy between governments, pharmaceutical companies, researchers and medical professionals to make children autistic... believing that the only people who have figured it out (conspiracy theorists) are the rational ones, holding rational beliefs.

When pharma make mistakes they try to cover them up, same happened with Thalidomide. Insiders have already blown the whistle on autism. However the bigger picture is that even if vaccines weren’t causing autism the rest of the harm they are causing still far outweighs any benefit they bring.

[wehateporn]

Anyone wanting to learn the other side of the story, here are some honest experts

https://m.youtube.com/user/VaccineSafetyConf

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

The most important point to take away is that the vaccine is more dangerous than measles

Is it? Seems to me like if you don't get the vaccine, you get the measles. Get the vaccine and live a happy life? There seems to be zero proof vaccines cause autism, etc....

[wehateporn]

Squealer and crucifissio,

You are both far smarter than the average inhabitant of GFY, do me proud and start researching this one, I can tell you 100% I am right as I have been involved with this for so long day after day, but I understand that with the vaccine lie being such a big one you will have to do the research yourselves and witness the madness of vaccine science with your own eyes. I wouldn’t take the word of a random GFYer either

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Is it? Seems to me like if you don't get the vaccine, you get the measles. Get the vaccine and live a happy life? There seems to be zero proof vaccines cause autism, etc....

If you don’t get the vaccine it is very unlikely you will catch measles. Even if you did catch measles is not a big deal, I had it myself, had time off school, enjoyed it, whereas vaccine damage is for life and often severe.

Vaccines are associated with a lot more harm than just autism, but a CDC whistleblower has now stepped forward and confirmed the autism cover up.

A good place to find out more is in the original video.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

The most important point to take away is that the vaccine is more dangerous than measles

Funny you say that because since vaccines early inception the population of the planet has skyrocketed since...

what is your counter argument again? the video?

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

If you don’t get the vaccine it is very unlikely you will catch measles. Even if you did catch measles is not a big deal, I had it myself, had time off school, enjoyed it, whereas vaccine damage is for life and often severe.

Vaccines are associated with a lot more harm than just autism, but a CDC whistleblower has now stepped forward and confirmed the autism cover up.

A good place to find out more is in the original video.

You know for someone who has supposedly studied math at some point you seem to not understand how to apply it with anything useful.. Why do you think its so hard to catch now compared to previously?

Think about it a minute and get back to us. I know since you started on the heavy meds you forget yourself...

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

Funny you say that because since vaccines early inception the population of the planet has skyrocketed since...

what is your counter argument again? the video?

Firstly it is important to understand that a correlation is not a causation. Many variables have changed, much of the world has clean drinking water and is well nourished, one has to analyze and interpret such data with great care.

Bill Gates claims that vaccines bring the population down.

Also for the record, when I describe vaccines as being dangerous, I should be more specific, the danger is that they harm health, while there is also a risk of death it is relatively small compared to the risk of non fatal health damage (autoimmune disease, allergies, cancers etc)

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

You know for someone who has supposedly studied math at some point you seem to not understand how to apply it with anything useful.. Why do you think its so hard to catch now compared to previously?

Think about it a minute and get back to us. I know since you started on the heavy meds you forget yourself...

You are making false assumptions about what I am saying. I didn’t get involved with the reasons for low measles rates which is another debate in itself, but it is clear that in the current situation there is almost nil risk of measles whereas there is a far greater risk from the vaccine. An individual will have more risk of harm from the vaccine than from measles, that is undeniable.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

Think about it a minute and get back to us. I know since you started on the heavy meds you forget yourself...

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You are out of your depth in this thread Bladeboy, but just take my advice, avoid them, and if you don’t then don’t say you weren’t warned

[Smack dat]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Is it? Seems to me like if you don't get the vaccine, you get the measles. Get the vaccine and live a happy life? There seems to be zero proof vaccines cause autism, etc....

I had the measles as a kid. Didn't do me any harm.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Smack dat

I had the measles as a kid. Didn't do me any harm.

Made you stronger!

[Bladewire]

WeHATEporn (Russian troll), is posting on a porn forum, antivax Russian propaganda in the hopes of at least getting one child killed by not taking vaccines.

[MaDalton]

people like wehatebrain are directly responsible for the death of children - accessory to murder, that's what it is.

some psychos sitting in their basements and feeling superior because after watching hundreds of hours of Youtube videos their brain is fried

thankfully Youtube is about to make it more difficult to share this shit

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ecommendations

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by StefanG

thankfully Youtube is about to make it more difficult to share this shit

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ecommendations

You're awesome great link!

[RedFred]

What I'm getting out of this is there is a correlation between the measles and mental illness.

[NewNick]

Whp, you are a deluded dullard and on most of your conspiracy ramblings I could I not care less.

However on this your bullshit is dangerous and damaging. Children are harmed because of idiots like you.

There are posters in this thread with whom I would argue all fucking day about Trump etc, but on this they are all united.

Fuck off you cunt.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by StefanG

people like wehatebrain are directly responsible for the death of children - accessory to murder, that's what it is.

some psychos sitting in their basements and feeling superior because after watching hundreds of hours of Youtube videos their brain is fried

thankfully Youtube is about to make it more difficult to share this shit

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ecommendations

The psychopaths at the top want YouTube to censor videos which expose their crimes against humanity, that’s not surprising

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by RedFred

What I'm getting out of this is there is a correlation between the measles and mental illness.

Keep in mind everyone used to catch measles, and also that statistically vaccines are associated with neurological disorders

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by NewNick

Whp, you are a deluded dullard and on most of your conspiracy ramblings I could I not care less.

However on this your bullshit is dangerous and damaging. Children are harmed because of idiots like you.

There are posters in this thread with whom I would argue all fucking day about Trump etc, but on this they are all united.

Fuck off you cunt.

We all know you’re just a troll, not here for any real discussion, if ever you actually want honest and unbiased information on vaccines then we’ll talk

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

WeHATEporn (Russian troll), is posting on a porn forum, antivax Russian propaganda in the hopes of at least getting one child killed by not taking vaccines.

I am simply exposing evil, I would like to see you doing the same more often like you did with your New York post the other day, which I commend you for

[wehateporn]

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

I am simply exposing evil

You only think that, in reality you are mentally ill and can't realize that.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by StefanG

You only think that, in reality you are mentally ill and can't realize that.

You are talking about things you know nothing about, the arrogance of ignorance, you are naive to the intentions of big industry, which is quite sweet really, but unfortunely leaves you and your family vulnerable to falling victim to their agenda. I don’t believe I can help you as you don’t want to be helped.

[Bladewire]

The alt-right hate fake nic troll is mentally ill.

It has no impulse control it's part of its mental disability

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

If you don’t get the vaccine it is very unlikely you will catch measles. Even if you did catch measles is not a big deal, I had it myself, had time off school, enjoyed it, whereas vaccine damage is for life and often severe.

Vaccines are associated with a lot more harm than just autism, but a CDC whistleblower has now stepped forward and confirmed the autism cover up.

A good place to find out more is in the original video.

But if everyone stops getting the vaccines.... People start getting the measles.

I didn't search for this; It just popped up on my news feed now:
https://www.kitsapsun.com/story/news...HS-5XgNgkd_-ZI

I haven't exactly researched this much, but I have yet to see any evidence that vaccines cause autism.

A friend of mine has a kid who has autism and it's rather interesting... He can use bluetooth on your phone to hack your phone in under twenty seconds, but the concept of closing the front door to the house behind him is a concept he'll never understand.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

The alt-right hate fake nic troll is mentally ill.

It has no impulse control it's part of its mental disability

Seems like a post from your bot