The Russian President understands American politics better than the American Media.

[Hawkeye]

The best part?

Leftists and the American media (same thing) won't listen and won't take these lessons to heart. They will continue to alienate the American people and hand another 4 years to President Trump, and another few decades of Trumpism after that is over.

https://www.ft.com/content/878d2344-...3-ee5cbb98ed36

LB: Mr President, you are a student of history. You have had many hours of conversation with Henry Kissinger. You almost certainly read his book, World Order. With Mr Trump, we have seen something new, something much more transactional. He is very critical of alliances and allies in Europe. Is this something that is to Russia’s advantage?

VP: It would be better to ask what would be to America’s advantage in this case. Mr Trump is not a career politician. He has a distinct world outlook and vision of US national interests. I do not accept many of his methods when it comes to addressing problems. But do you know what I think? I think that he is a talented person. He knows very well what his voters expect from him.

Russia has been accused, and, strange as it may seem, it is still being accused, despite the Mueller report [on the investigation into allegations of Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential campaign], of mythical interference in the US election. What happened in reality? Mr Trump looked into his opponents’ attitude to him and saw changes in American society, and he took advantage of this.

You and I are talking ahead of the G20 meeting. It is an economic forum, and it will undoubtedly have discussions on globalisation, global trade and international finance.

The middle class in the US has not benefited from globalisation . . . The Trump team sensed this very keenly and clearly and they used this in the election campaign

Has anyone ever given a thought to who actually benefited and what benefits were gained from globalisation, the development of which we have been observing and participating in over the past 25 years, since the 1990s?

China has made use of globalisation, in particular, to pull millions of Chinese out of poverty.

What happened in the US, and how did it happen? In the US, the leading US companies — the companies, their managers, shareholders and partners — made use of these benefits. The middle class hardly benefited from globalisation. The take-home pay in the US (we are likely to talk later about real incomes in Russia, which need special attention from the government). The middle class in the US has not benefited from globalisation; it was left out when this pie was divided up.

The Trump team sensed this very keenly and clearly, and they used this in the election campaign. It is where you should look for reasons behind Trump’s victory, rather than in any alleged foreign interference. This is what we should be talking about here, including when it comes to the global economy.

I believe this may explain his seemingly extravagant economic decisions and even his relations with his partners and allies. He believes that the distribution of resources and benefits of globalisation in the past decade was unfair to the US.

I am not going to discuss whether it was fair or not, and I will not say if what he is doing is right or wrong. I would like to understand his motives, which is what you asked me about. Maybe this could explain his unusual behaviour.

[just a punk]

He is a senile old man.

[Hawkeye]

Sorry, I realize this is behind a paywall subscription.

Here's more. It's amazing that this kind of insight is only available in the foreign press, and only by interviewing a foreign leader who also has his own nation's best interests at heart.

We never see this kind of analysis from the American evening news, or any other "mainstream" American news source.

LB: Again a big picture question. I talked at the beginning of our conversation about fragmentation. Another phenomenon today is that there is a popular backlash against elites and against the establishment and you have seen that — Brexit in Great Britain. Perhaps you were speaking about Trump’s America. You have seen it with the AFD in Germany; you have seen it in Turkey; and you have seen it in the Arab world. How long do you think that Russia can remain immune to this global movement of backlash against the establishment?

VP: You should look at the realities in each particular case. Of course, there are some trends, but they are only general. In each particular case, when looking at the situation and how it unfolds, you should take into account the history of the given country, its traditions and realities.

How long will Russia remain a stable country? The longer the better. Because very many other things and its position in the world depend on stability, on internal political stability. Ultimately, the wellbeing of the people depends, possibly primarily, on stability.

One of the reasons, the internal reason for the Soviet Union’s collapse was that life was difficult for the people, whose take-home wages were very small. The shops were empty, and the people lost the intrinsic desire to preserve the state.

They thought that it could not get worse no matter what happened. It turned out that life became worse for very many people, especially at the beginning of the 1990s when the social protection and healthcare systems collapsed and industry was crumbling. It could be ineffective, but at least people had jobs. After the collapse, they lost them. Therefore, you should look at each particular case separately.

What is happening in the West? What is the reason for the Trump phenomenon, as you said, in the US? What is happening in Europe as well? The ruling elites have broken away from the people. The obvious problem is the gap between the interests of the elites and the overwhelming majority of the people.

Of course, we must always bear this in mind. One of the things we must do in Russia is never to forget that the purpose of the operation and existence of any government is to create a stable, normal, safe and predictable life for the people and to work towards a better future.

There is also the so-called liberal idea, which has outlived its purpose. Our Western partners have admitted that some elements of the liberal idea, such as multiculturalism, are no longer tenable.

When the migration problem came to a head, many people admitted that the policy of multiculturalism is not effective and that the interests of the core population should be considered. Although those who have run into difficulties because of political problems in their home countries need our assistance as well. That is great, but what about the interests of their own population when the number of migrants heading to Western Europe is not just a handful of people but thousands or hundreds of thousands?


LB: Did [German chancellor] Angela Merkel make a mistake?


VP: Cardinal mistake. One can criticise Trump for his intention to build a wall between Mexico and the US. It could be going too far. Yes, maybe so. I am not arguing about this point. But he had to do something about the huge inflow of migrants and narcotics.

Nobody is doing anything. They say this is bad and that is bad as well. Tell me, what is good then? What should be done? Nobody has proposed anything. I do not mean that a wall must be built or tariffs raised by 5 per cent annually in the economic relations with Mexico. This is not what I am saying, yet something must be done. He is at least looking for a solution.

What am I driving at? Those who are concerned about this, ordinary Americans, they look at this and say, Good for him, at least he is doing something, suggesting ideas and looking for a solution.

As for the liberal idea, its proponents are not doing anything. They say that all is well, that everything is as it should be. But is it? They are sitting in their cosy offices, while those who are facing the problem every day in Texas or Florida are not happy, they will soon have problems of their own. Does anyone think about them?

The same is happening in Europe. I discussed this with many of my colleagues, but nobody has the answer. The say they cannot pursue a hardline policy for various reasons. Why exactly? Just because. We have the law, they say. Well, then change the law!

We have quite a few problems of our own in this sphere as well. We have open borders with the former Soviet republics, but their people at least speak Russian. Do you see what I mean? And besides, we in Russia have taken steps to streamline the situation in this sphere. We are now working in the countries from which the migrants come, teaching Russian at their schools, and we are also working with them here. We have toughened the legislation to show that migrants must respect the laws, customs and culture of the country.

In other words, the situation is not simple in Russia either, but we have started working to improve it. Whereas the liberal idea presupposes that nothing needs to be done. The migrants can kill, plunder and rape with impunity because their rights as migrants must be protected. What rights are these? Every crime must have its punishment.

So, the liberal idea has become obsolete. It has come into conflict with the interests of the overwhelming majority of the population. Or take the traditional values. I am not trying to insult anyone, because we have been condemned for our alleged homophobia as it is. But we have no problems with LGBT persons. God forbid, let them live as they wish. But some things do appear excessive to us.

They claim now that children can play five or six gender roles. I cannot even say exactly what genders these are, I have no notion. Let everyone be happy, we have no problem with that. But this must not be allowed to overshadow the culture, traditions and traditional family values of millions of people making up the core population.


LB: Does that include — this is very important, like you say — the end of this liberal idea, because — what else did you say — uncontrolled immigration, open borders, definitely, as you say, diversity as an organising principle in society? What else do you think is just finished over in terms of the liberal idea? And would you say — if I could just add — that religion therefore must play an important role in terms of national culture and cohesiveness?


VP: It should play its current role. It [religion] cannot be pushed out of this cultural space. We should not abuse anything.

Russia is an Orthodox Christian nation, and there have always been problems between Orthodox Christianity and the Catholic world. This is exactly why I will now say a few words about Catholics. Are there any problems there? Yes, there are, but they cannot be over-exaggerated and used for destroying the Roman Catholic Church itself. This is what cannot be done.

Sometimes, I get the feeling that these liberal circles are beginning to use certain elements and problems of the Catholic Church as a tool for destroying the Church itself. This is what I consider to be incorrect and dangerous.

All right, have we forgotten that all of us live in a world based on biblical values? Even atheists and everyone else live in this world. We do not have to think about this every day, attend church and pray, thereby showing that we are devout Christians or Muslims or Jews. However, deep inside, there must be some fundamental human rules and moral values. In this sense, traditional values are more stable and more important for millions of people than this liberal idea, which, in my opinion, is really ceasing to exist.


LB: So religion, religion is not the opium of the masses?


VP: No, it is not. But I get the impression that you are detached from religion because it is already 12.45am Moscow time, and you continue to torture me. As we say here, there is no fear of God in you, is there? (Laughter).

[Bladewire]

The GDP of Californi ($2.8 trillion) is more than the GDP of the entire country of Russia ($1.5 trillion).

40 million people in California create more wealth for the world and themselves than the 145 million people of Russia. What a bunch of inept Russian losers with a failed corrupt "leader" in Putin.

CyberAIDS Putin can't even help Russia with their straight AIDS epidemic.

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

The GDP of Californi ($2.8 trillion) is more than the GDP of the entire country of Russia ($1.5 trillion).

40 million people in California create more wealth for the world and themselves than the 145 million people of Russia. What a bunch of inept Russian losers with a failed corrupt "leader" in Putin.

CyberAIDS Putin can't even help Russia with their straight AIDS epidemic.
[/center]

Australian population 25 million, estimated GDP for 2019.. 1.45 trillion, estimated 2020 1.7 trillion... Life expectancy males 80.4 , females 84.6

Australia in many ways makes money from exploiting the exact same natural resources that Russia has. :P Putty fails..

meanwhile

Former President Jimmy Carter questioned Friday whether President Trump legitimately won the 2016 election over Hillary Clinton, arguing Trump is only in office because "the Russians interfered."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jim...ans-interfered

"I think a full investigation would show that Trump didn’t actually win the election in 2016. He lost the election, and he was put into office because the Russians interfered on his behalf,"

[RedFred]

Oh gee, another traitor Trumper sucking Putin cock. I'm in shock.

[pimpmaster9000]

good ol' pooty fucked america good...he put trump in power...of course he is going to say shit like that...4D chess playa...get ready to take lots of dick

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

He is a senile old man.

Originally Posted by Bladewire

CyberAIDS Putin

Originally Posted by RedFred

Oh gee, another traitor Trumper sucking Putin cock. I'm in shock.

Originally Posted by crucifissio

good ol' pooty fucked america good...he put trump in power...

Notice how Leftists can only respond to these issues with emotional outbursts, name-calling, and bizarre conspiracy theories?

They cannot even begin to understand or acknowledge the global and national forces that swept Donald Trump into power.

Scientific studies have shown that Leftists completely lack the ability to view the world from another person's point of view. It's physically painful for them to try to understand why Americans are rejecting Leftism and embracing Donald Trump.

The only tools they have to deal with this are anger and denial. They lack the ability to rationally and logically discuss this short political analysis, because it short-circuits their brain. To the left-wing hivemind, it's impossible to believe that anybody could disagree with them, and so they lash out in anger.

This is why President Trump, Nationalism, Populism, etc. will continue to prevail over the evil forces of Leftism and Globalism. The Left has no clue and no plan and no understanding of anything, whereas Trumpists understand the world, understand ourselves, understand Leftists, and have a plan moving forward to Make America Great Again.

[crockett]

Every Red Hat worships Putin... gee I wonder why.. They all love sucking that dictator dick. It's like battered wives syndrome..

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

The best part?

Leftists and the American media (same thing) won't listen and won't take these lessons to heart. They will continue to alienate the American people and hand another 4 years to President Trump, and another few decades of Trumpism after that is over.

Merica )

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by crockett

Every Red Hat worships Putin... gee I wonder why.. They all love sucking that dictator dick. It's like battered wives syndrome..

They had fat controlling mamma's so worshiping a dictator feels normal and comforting to them.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Notice how Leftists can only respond to these issues with emotional outbursts, name-calling, and bizarre conspiracy theories?

They cannot even begin to understand or acknowledge the global and national forces that swept Donald Trump into power.

Scientific studies have shown that Leftists completely lack the ability to view the world from another person's point of view. It's physically painful for them to try to understand why Americans are rejecting Leftism and embracing Donald Trump.

The only tools they have to deal with this are anger and denial. They lack the ability to rationally and logically discuss this short political analysis, because it short-circuits their brain. To the left-wing hivemind, it's impossible to believe that anybody could disagree with them, and so they lash out in anger.

This is why President Trump, Nationalism, Populism, etc. will continue to prevail over the evil forces of Leftism and Globalism. The Left has no clue and no plan and no understanding of anything, whereas Trumpists understand the world, understand ourselves, understand Leftists, and have a plan moving forward to Make America Great Again.

Scientific studies have also shown that righties like to have gay sex with old homeless people...they completely lack the ability to stop impaling themselves on old vinegary bum penis...this is why leftism and globalism will prevail...also most of them live in trailers...

[pimpmaster9000]

...and sleep with their sisters

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by crockett

Every Red Hat worships Putin... gee I wonder why.. They all love sucking that dictator dick. It's like battered wives syndrome..

Well he's bang on the money when he says the middle class haven't benefited from globalisation. Add immigration and automation to that and the only people to benefit are the very top few.

In fact the middle class have suffered under globalisation, immigration and automation.
But keep trying to avoid a discussion by pointing fingers. Surprised you haven't called anyone a Nazi today.

[beerptrol]

The alt right sure do love Russia and Putin

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Well he's bang on the money when he says the middle class haven't benefited from globalisation. Add immigration and automation to that and the only people to benefit are the very top few.

In fact the middle class have suffered under globalisation, immigration and automation.
But keep trying to avoid a discussion by pointing fingers. Surprised you haven't called anyone a Nazi today.

What utter trollop, the middle classes in the west have never had it so good, loosing your childhood memories from the UK Paul?????

Do you really think a child today has to endure any of the hardships you had to as a kid? Life got a lot better, more easy and there's more opportunity.

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

What utter trollop, the middle classes in the west have never had it so good, loosing your childhood memories from the UK Paul?????

Do you really think a child today has to endure any of the hardships you had to as a kid? Life got a lot better, more easy and there's more opportunity.

No generation had it better than Pauls generation. But their greed, selfishness and sociopathic behavior fucked the world up for everyone else and they continue to try to implement their greedy ass ways while the planet burns thanks to them.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

The best part?

Leftists and the American media (same thing) won't listen and won't take these lessons to heart. They will continue to alienate the American people and hand another 4 years to President Trump, and another few decades of Trumpism after that is over.

https://www.ft.com/content/878d2344-...3-ee5cbb98ed36

if you love Vladamir Putin so much, why don't you suck his dick?

You also have a hawk brain, which is ok for a hawk but kind of unfortunate if you're a human.

you should keep your stupid thoughts in your little hawk head.