fires in Australia

[Grapesoda]

good luck and god speed to you guys.... I've been in a few, it really sucks. they are saying rain in the next few days maybe? for those of you untouched great time to count your blessing

[Scott McD]

It's been horrifying just to watch it on tv, so i can't even begin to imagine what it's been like.

I was surprised they went ahead with the firework display for New Year if i'm being honest. I'd find it hard to "celebrate" anything right now knowing half my country was being burnt to the fucking ground.

It's actually been in my thoughts daily. Just horrific...

[Scott McD]

Surely there is help available on a wider scale for future disasters like this ? Surely neighbouring countries can assist somehow now ??

Just seems to be burning away to shit and they are fighting a losing battle while everyone else watches.

Didn't help when the actual Prime Minister (can't remember his name) decided to fuck off on a family holiday while it's all been going on. I know he came back because of the abuse he recieved but fuck me, common sense says stay put and be the face of hope while everything is going to shit no ?? Rather than being photographed in family snaps enjoying yourself in some other country. Sheesh!

[adultchatpay]

That is not a good sight to see at all.

[EddyTheDog]

We have smoke here in NZ blowing over from Aus - It's actually a lot further from here than a lot people realize - It's a good 3hr+ flight from NZ...

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Surely there is help available on a wider scale for future disasters like this ? Surely neighbouring countries can assist somehow now ??

Just seems to be burning away to shit and they are fighting a losing battle while everyone else watches.

Didn't help when the actual Prime Minister (can't remember his name) decided to fuck off on a family holiday while it's all been going on. I know he came back because of the abuse he recieved but fuck me, common sense says stay put and be the face of hope while everything is going to shit no ?? Rather than being photographed in family snaps enjoying yourself in some other country. Sheesh!

California has Lots of practice,with fire and wind. don't down under does..... as far as the PM goes, pretty sure they have phones

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

We have smoke here in NZ blowing over from Aus - It's actually a lot further from here than a lot people realize - It's a good 3hr+ flight from NZ...

I've seen very many red skies around LA. when i was living outside Agoura Hills, in Cornell the Verizon tower burned down... I had to drive 2 miles down the road to use the mobile for 2 weeks

[shake]

We've sent fire fighters from Canada down to help, and they send help back to Canada during our summer fire season: https://globalnews.ca/news/6348348/c...ers-australia/ Other countries probably are as well it just doesn't always make the news.

[Brian mike]

Originally Posted by shake

We've sent fire fighters from Canada down to help, and they send help back to Canada during our summer fire season: https://globalnews.ca/news/6348348/c...ers-australia/ Other countries probably are as well it just doesn't always make the news.

^^ Ditto ... More Canadian help is on the way ...

"Firefighters from across Canada are on their way to Australia to bolster Canadians already assisting the country in the battle against devastating wildfires."

This had Make the news here in Alberta couple days ago

[Denny BongaCash]

That's terrible, hopefully it will end soon

[Yanks_Todd]

This is simply insane

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by Brian mike

^^ Ditto ... More Canadian help is on the way ...

"Firefighters from across Canada are on their way to Australia to bolster Canadians already assisting the country in the battle against devastating wildfires."

This had Make the news here in Alberta couple days ago

Ahh good i had no idea. Never gets reported in the news...

[jscott]

so sad, so much animal & nature being destroyed and devastated

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-thir...y-recent-fires

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by jscott

so sad, so much animal & nature being destroyed and devastated

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-thir...y-recent-fires

fires are part of nature, some pine tree seeds will not sprout and grow without a fire

[GAMEFINEST]

fucking horrible

[Spunky]

The millions of those poor animals burned. It will take them decades to get back to normal unless mother nature takes them out completely. it's only the start of our demise. slowly fire will consume everybody. glad I will be dead when the inevitable happens

[tornell]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

We have smoke here in NZ blowing over from Aus - It's actually a lot further from here than a lot people realize - It's a good 3hr+ flight from NZ...

it must be a huge fire

[NewbieNudes]

The fires have been burning since the end of October and have burnt out an area larger than all of western Europe. This is not just a fire, it's a national catastrophe on an epic scale. They are saying more than half a billion animals wiped out as well.

[jscott]

animals caught in barbed wire , burnt to crisp. fucking sick and sad. Tons of donation, gofund me, petition pages out there, please post them up if anyone ever sees them. They really need help. (ppls & animals, everything & all)

[NewbieNudes]

[BaldBastard]

The next 30 days is Australias hottest period of the year, Mid Summer

I'm in central Sydney so only get smoke, the air quality here this summer is worse than Bejing. Out of Sydney, I have many friends who are evacuated or on evacuation notice.

As "NewbieNudes" called it.. "national catastrophe on an epic scale"

Local news if you want to follow.

https://www.smh.com.au/

Many nations around the world have sent in people to help, USA included.

Its 5am here now, the weather forecast for today is 46c/ 115f, Not where I live, I'm close to the ocean so sea breeze, Sydney goes inland a 100 miles nearly and the further from the coast you go, the hotter and dryer it gets. Millions of people today will be heading to the beach ;)

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/w...03-p53onw.html

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

The next 30 days is Australias hottest period of the year, Mid Summer

I'm in central Sydney so only get smoke, the air quality here this summer is worse than Bejing. Out of Sydney, I have many friends who are evacuated or on evacuation notice.

As "NewbieNudes" called it.. "national catastrophe on an epic scale"

Local news if you want to follow.

https://www.smh.com.au/

Many nations around the world have sent in people to help, USA included.

Its 5am here now, the weather forecast for today is 46c/ 115f, Not where I live, I'm close to the ocean so sea breeze, Sydney goes inland a 100 miles nearly and the further from the coast you go, the hotter and dryer it gets. Millions of people today will be heading to the beach ;)

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/w...03-p53onw.html

going to have an economic effect as well, possibly long term

Land Acreage total statistics - States compared - StateMaster

perspective

California fires...

About 8.8 million acres were burned in 2018, compared with 10 million in 2017. The Mendocino Complex Fire broke out on July 27 in Northern California and grew to be the largest fire in state history with 459,123 acres burned

https://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/f...tics-wildfires

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

California fires...

About 8.8 million acres were burned in 2018, compared with 10 million in 2017. The Mendocino Complex Fire broke out on July 27 in Northern California and grew to be the largest fire in state history with 459,123 acres burned

https://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/f...tics-wildfires

https://www.insider.com/australia-fi...n-fires-2020-1

It's hard to comprehend the size of the affected area in Australia. In total, the area of burned land (14.6 million acres) is twice the size of Belgium. Nearly six times more acres have burned in Australia than in California's devastating 2018 wildfire season when the Camp Fire destroyed the town of Paradise. In my State alone there's a million acres currently on fire, so a long way from doing final numbers
---... BUT

This only getting started, peak fire season is really the next month, these fires cant be put out there too big. Hopefully, we can turn them a bit so they miss towns and eventually they blowback into an already burnt area.

The sad reality is the plan today is not to put the fires out so much as try and have a day where no one dies.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

https://www.insider.com/australia-fi...n-fires-2020-1

It's hard to comprehend the size of the affected area in Australia. In total, the area of burned land (14.6 million acres) is twice the size of Belgium. Nearly six times more acres have burned in Australia than in California's devastating 2018 wildfire season when the Camp Fire destroyed the town of Paradise. In my State alone there's a million acres currently on fire, so a long way from doing final numbers
---... BUT

This only getting started, peak fire season is really the next month, these fires cant be put out there too big. Hopefully, we can turn them a bit so they miss towns and eventually they blowback into an already burnt area.

The sad reality is the plan today is not to put the fires out so much as try and have a day where no one dies.

not really to me, over 18 mil acres in Cally last 3 years

[slapass]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Surely there is help available on a wider scale for future disasters like this ? Surely neighbouring countries can assist somehow now ??

Just seems to be burning away to shit and they are fighting a losing battle while everyone else watches.

Didn't help when the actual Prime Minister (can't remember his name) decided to fuck off on a family holiday while it's all been going on. I know he came back because of the abuse he recieved but fuck me, common sense says stay put and be the face of hope while everything is going to shit no ?? Rather than being photographed in family snaps enjoying yourself in some other country. Sheesh!

I have been reading there is not much they can do. Only 1200 homes went and it is the size of West Virginia só not like anyone lives where this is going on.

[Vendzilla]

The US has sent some firefighters, I didn't see about equipment.
Our Navy should be called in if not already, it's amazing what an Aircraft Carrier can do in support in a harbor like they did in the Philippines

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

The US has sent some firefighters, I didn't see about equipment. Our Navy should be called in if not already, it's amazing what an Aircraft Carrier can do in support in a harbor like they did in the Philippines

the pictures were dramatic but that's just one area of a larger problem where getting out by water was the solution, fire went over a hill and down into the bay below cutting of the road out and leaving a water escape as the best alternative.

Yesterday conditions were catastrophic temperatures over 115 in some areas during the day then a 80 mph wind ripping up at night spreading existing fires and lighting new, conditions are better today but still hundreds of fires burning.

To get a mental image of some of these fires think of them as a quarter a mile high and moving at 60 mph, so big they create their own weather patterns including fire tornados strong enough to flip a 10-tonne fire truck.

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...10-tonne-truck

“We had a crew working in a paddock that were trying to muster up some cattle that were caught in the corner of the paddock. They were only 50 metres from a gate that they entered and they were on flat ground with very low fuel.

“The crew decided to move away from that area and, quite unexpectedly, very suddenly, they experienced extreme winds, and what could only be described as a fire tornado, that lifted the back of the truck, fully inverted it and landed it on its roof, trapping three people, three crew that is, and unfortunately, one of them fatally.”

Veteran firefighters could not believe what they had seen, the spokesman said.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

the pictures were dramatic but that's just one area of a larger problem where getting out by water was the solution, fire went over a hill and down into the bay below cutting of the road out and leaving a water escape as the best alternative.

Yesterday conditions were catastrophic temperatures over 115 in some areas during the day then a 80 mph wind ripping up at night spreading existing fires and lighting new, conditions are better today but still hundreds of fires burning.

To get a mental image of some of these fires think of them as a quarter a mile high and moving at 60 mph, so big they create their own weather patterns including fire tornados strong enough to flip a 10-tonne fire truck.

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...10-tonne-truck

“We had a crew working in a paddock that were trying to muster up some cattle that were caught in the corner of the paddock. They were only 50 metres from a gate that they entered and they were on flat ground with very low fuel.

“The crew decided to move away from that area and, quite unexpectedly, very suddenly, they experienced extreme winds, and what could only be described as a fire tornado, that lifted the back of the truck, fully inverted it and landed it on its roof, trapping three people, three crew that is, and unfortunately, one of them fatally.”

Veteran firefighters could not believe what they had seen, the spokesman said.

Yeah, I've seen some pictures, it's bad, my mother has been evacuated a couple times where she lives, in the country which a lot of people don't know about California, it has a lot of beautiful country.

I saw where they had a fire storm, those are scary, I think they have seen them in California as well.

I've been to Western Australia, beautiful people and a lot of small kangaroo. Can't tell you how many I ran over, made me cringe. Loved emu beer and their wineries are top notch.
Driving was a challenge, I was the duty driver.

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by jscott

animals caught in barbed wire , burnt to crisp. fucking sick and sad. Tons of donation, gofund me, petition pages out there, please post them up if anyone ever sees them. They really need help. (ppls & animals, everything & all)

I've had sleepless nights just at some of the images alone.

Just horrific...

[Scott McD]

Surely, this could all happen just as easily next year again ? So the Summer (eventually) passes. The fires go out. The seasons change.

What's to say the same thing on a similar scale, or worse will happen again ? Not even worth thinking about...

[jscott]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

I've had sleepless nights just at some of the images alone.

Just horrific...

same here man
painful, just to know of these things happening.

[nikki99]

poor koalas

[SilentKnight]

Any day now Trump should be advising Australians to start raking the forest and eliminate deadwood to quell the fires.

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by nikki99

poor koalas

Even the ones that do survive, for now, they have no natural habitat to live and eat. Seems impossible to see how any of the affected areas will recover fully...

[2MuchMark]

500,000,000 animals dead. That’s so incredible. Good luck to everyone.

[MatureKing]

Who did this fires? Whos fault? New rules for people

[MatureKing]

Damn.....

xttps://www.instagram.com/p/B6-1AvLl-Wh/?igshid=dh6tst5o8j3u

[SekobA]

We all pray for Australia ..its raining

[Constant Phil]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Any day now Trump should be advising Australians to start raking the forest and eliminate deadwood to quell the fires.

Well he wouldn't be completely wrong in saying that because the Australian aborigines used to do controlled burns to stop this from happening.

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by Brian mike

^^ Ditto ... More Canadian help is on the way ...

"Firefighters from across Canada are on their way to Australia to bolster Canadians already assisting the country in the battle against devastating wildfires."

This had Make the news here in Alberta couple days ago

That's awesome!!

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by Constant Phil

Well he wouldn't be completely wrong in saying that because the Australian aborigines used to do controlled burns to stop this from happening.

Australians do controlled burns now, but the key is "controlled" and the past 4 years at least have allowed for very few "controlled burns" because of weather conditions. Also, the only thing that used to control the Abbos fires was natural waterways, rivers, creeks and natural damp areas, these are all dried up now

For every person that dies in a bush fire here, 150 will die in the cities from respiratory problems caused by the smoke. That's a number out of my ass but it gives you an idea of the issue, I don't think Sydney has had an air quality day better than Bejing in 6 months.

And with those respiratory deaths, it makes zip difference if it's a controlled burn or a natural one... same effect.

Australian Government has 75 F35's on order from the American Military @ 12.5 billion and two water-bombing planes... duh. When the fires were at their peak, our prime minister was in Hawaii and the guy in charge of emergency services was in Europe, both on holidays, they only returned because of public pressure. Australia needs to spend more on better fire detection, fire fighting equipment and more trained personnel ... F35's can wait.

Anyways weather has cooled a bit and there has been some light rain, it won't stop the fires but it does give the firefighters some relief.

... Next up is Cyclone season in Northern Australia.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

The US has sent some firefighters, I didn't see about equipment.
Our Navy should be called in if not already, it's amazing what an Aircraft Carrier can do in support in a harbor like they did in the Philippines

the fire fighters went sans gear, blow the fires out with sonic booms

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Any day now Trump should be advising Australians to start raking the forest and eliminate deadwood to quell the fires.

the US should do that

[jscott]

donate pages:

https://donate.wwf.org.au/donate/koa...s/koala-crisis

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-thir...y-recent-fires

https://www.rspcansw.org.au/bushfire-appeal/

https://www.wires.org.au/donate/online

https://twitter.com/AlexSaundersAU/s...23172763684864 (accepting Bitcoin for "Rural Fire Service" combating the fires)

more info listed here:

https://www.thedodo.com/in-the-wild/...ustralia-fires

[BaldBastard]

Sydney air quality hazardous as the city is shrouded in smoke and mist.. AGAIN.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/...08-p53pov.html

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

our prime minister was in Hawaii and the guy in charge of emergency services was in Europe, both on holidays, they only returned because of public pressure.

Absolutely ridiculous. Both should hang their heads in shame...

[jscott]

Perfect time for a holiday, wow .
Hopefully Aus ppl remember this when they're voting next election

[OneHungLo]

Hopefully they hang the bastards that started these fires.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by jscott

Perfect time for a holiday, wow .
Hopefully Aus ppl remember this when they're voting next election

What does voting have to do with arsonists?

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Absolutely ridiculous. Both should hang their heads in shame...

Ridiculous here, is how Murdoch media is desperately trying to spin this because Rupert's appointed leader has totally fucked up. You can follow the propaganda spin by reading a few Murdoch clucks posts on this board. The right wing deniers need their morning briefing..

What they don't realise is even the Murdoch machine is backing down because he knows that's not going to get him another leader appointed.


How Rupert Murdoch Is Influencing Australia’s Bushfire Debate
Critics see a concerted effort to shift blame, protect conservative leaders and divert attention from climate change.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/08/w...formation.html