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Old 03-06-2020, 09:56 AM   #1
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So, you got people saying DON'T PANIC over this corona virus

so, when do we panic? Should we ever panic?

Asteroid about to hit earth: Don't panic it hasn't hit yet.
Asteroid hits earth: Don't panic..everyone is dead, no point of panicking


Some people say
"Thousands die of heart attack daily, and tornadoes, why are we making a big deal out of this virus"
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about corona virus, people must must panic or this shit is gonna kil thousands of people, people we know, people we love and we could get affected of this too, people who say dont panic over corana virus are all shitty people!
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people who say dont panic over corana virus are all shitty people!
CORRECT!

i say dont panic and I am the shittyest person on GFY...
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i say dont panic and I am the shittyest person on GFY...

I agree completely... But stock up on TP... Biz and GFYing as usual on my end


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No Need - Don't use it...

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Panicking has never helped any situation in history
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I'm looking at the numbers of coronavirus vs SARS and MERS... .

There was 8,437 cases of SARS with 813 deaths, and MERS had 2499 cases and 861 deaths. However..... There are 99k cases of Coronavirus in under two months.

Coronavirus seems to be as easy as the common flu to catch.
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I've done the math and I've counted many beans... this coronavirus is bullshit. There is, last I checked, 100,000 confirmed with 3,000 deaths. What those numbers don't show is the 85% of people who catch the corona and have mild to no symptoms.
By my math... .3% who catch corona, die. Influenza... .2% who catch it die.

My recommendation... buy travel and resort type stocks while they are getting hammered. Oh... and short Casper... it will be a $3 stock by years end.
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that's what austria said seconds before invaded by germany
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I'm looking at the numbers of coronavirus vs SARS and MERS... .

There was 8,437 cases of SARS with 813 deaths, and MERS had 2499 cases and 861 deaths. However..... There are 99k cases of Coronavirus in under two months.

Coronavirus seems to be as easy as the common flu to catch.

yep -- even nurses wearing PPEs get it, and because they were wearing PPEs at the time, CDC refuses to give them coronavirus tests
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We've altered our vaca plans because of the coronavirus. We were gonna spend a week in the Rockies in May, but the wife's immune system is wiped out due to her RA biologic meds, so we can't take the remote chance of her coming in proximity to someone with the virus, whether it's on the ground or in an airplane.

It's not paranoia or panic - just precautionary. She likely wouldn't stand a chance if she contracted it.
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I've done the math and I've counted many beans... this coronavirus is bullshit. There is, last I checked, 100,000 confirmed with 3,000 deaths. What those numbers don't show is the 85% of people who catch the corona and have mild to no symptoms.
By my math... .3% who catch corona, die. Influenza... .2% who catch it die.

My recommendation... buy travel and resort type stocks while they are getting hammered. Oh... and short Casper... it will be a $3 stock by years end.
You recommend any other stocks?
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Old 03-06-2020, 11:28 PM   #13
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Short the Cruise Lines
Short the Home Care / Nurshing Home (soon)

Short Shopify soon (right now those drop shippers who are still subscribed to shopify are keeping shopify profitable but the ones who will feel the immediate pain are the dropshippers running those shopify sites because China's manufacturing slowed down big. When those dropshippers start dissapearing, shopify should follow..
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Panicking has never helped any situation in history

This.

Also, most people who catch COVID-19 recover without ever needing to even spend a day at the hospital, much less dying. Respected epidemiologists say they believe many more people have caught it than is believed, but it just wasn't that big a deal so it went undiagnosed.

You are vastly more likely to be struck by lightning https://www.nationalgeographic.com/n...out-lightning/
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What sucks is that it could turn into a yearly/seasonal thing. Epidemiologists are predicting it might.

So it's like, now we have a flu that's 5-10x as deadly. It might be killing older/unhealthier people before their time for the rest of our lives.

I know people on gfy will be flippant about it and say "good, let the old people die" but this is your parents/grandparents. It's you one day.

It sucks.
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What sucks is that it could turn into a yearly/seasonal thing. Epidemiologists are predicting it might.

So it's like, now we have a flu that's 5-10x as deadly. It might be killing older/unhealthier people before their time for the rest of our lives.

I know people on gfy will be flippant about it and say "good, let the old people die" but this is your parents/grandparents. It's you one day.

It sucks.

It's not that dying from illness doesn't suck, but, so far, this one is way less of a big deal than influenza, and tons of the same people I see freaking out don't even bother to get a FREE flu shot every year.
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It's not that dying from illness doesn't suck, but, so far, this one is way less of a big deal than influenza, and tons of the same people I see freaking out don't even bother to get a FREE flu shot every year.
it's only less of a big deal because 3 months ago it didn't exist in humans and therefore hasn't had time to spread. If it continues to spread and becomes a seasonal thing that tons of people get every year (which seems likely), it's gonna suck. It'll kill way more than the flu does.
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it's only less of a big deal because 3 months ago it didn't exist in humans and therefore hasn't had time to spread. If it continues to spread and becomes a seasonal thing that tons of people get every year (which seems likely), it's gonna suck. It'll kill way more than the flu does.

I'll bet you $100 that, in the US, in a year's time COVID-19 will still be killing fewer Americans than the flu.

I don't feel we know enough about what is happening inside China's huge quarantine and I don't know enough about healthcare outside the US to conjecture. But this is not big news in the US.
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CORRECT!

i say dont panic and I am the shittyest person on GFY...
OK bro, i think people need to know more about corona, corona
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When ever like start panicking and run around in circles then trash your loungeroom so you can further enforce the belief the apocalypse is coming.
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so, when do we panic? Should we ever panic?

Asteroid about to hit earth: Don't panic it hasn't hit yet.
Asteroid hits earth: Don't panic..everyone is dead, no point of panicking


Some people say
"Thousands die of heart attack daily, and tornadoes, why are we making a big deal out of this virus"
Let the emotional brainwashed lemmings of the human race panic all they want and let the rest of us make the decisions that matter.
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I’m sure many people had it and weren’t diagnosed and died. Autopsies aren’t always done due to age or religion. I’d hope that now they are taking steps to determine cause of deaths when flu or pneumonia-like symptoms were present.

It is spreading over a wider area and people can’t fluff if off.
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I’m sure many people had it and weren’t diagnosed and died. Autopsies aren’t always done due to age or religion. I’d hope that now they are taking steps to determine cause of deaths when flu or pneumonia-like symptoms were present.

It is spreading over a wider area and people can’t fluff if off.
I personally am fluffing it. If I die... I will post it up. Unfortunately... this world likely won't kill me and I will just keep livin' it

Watch out for tornado's... more likely to kill. Ask the peeps in Tennessee
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in any situation, people are taught not to panic, panic creates fear and incorrect thinking.


I´m not panicking, however, keep it real, stay safe, this is a real threat, and logically if no one cared, could be the end of your life.


Enjoy life, live it and respect there is a threat!
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Take a look at casper now...

And yes... I recommend you buy Disney stock and watch it grow 50% by years end.
If you have the balls... short casper to pink slips... they have no future and will be gone in 2 years
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It's just another cold/flu, until a family member dies from it... My biggest fear would be stuck in quarantine somewhere, so I'm not travelling anywhere for now.
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I recommend you buy Disney stock and watch it grow 50% by years end.
Will depend if those online/ media sales will compensate for the theme park losses and closures and the timing of when they pull the plug. 27% of Disney's income is via parks, that's a lot to make up. You understand that even if corona virus goes away tomorrow, parks are fucked for years.
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Don't panic... or panic. Binary

Between 2/3% of people contaminated died.
When i play omaha poker and put the pot on the river with 20% of chance to win, yes i panic.
But with 97%, i smile
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in any situation, people are taught not to panic, panic creates fear and incorrect thinking.

I´m not panicking, however, keep it real, stay safe, this is a real threat, and logically if no one cared, could be the end of your life.

Enjoy life, live it and respect there is a threat!
That's the best plan, also build your dry stores so your two weeks ahead but for fucks sake do it right.. alcohol first, pasta and rice next, toilet paper last.
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As about me, so I don't give a shit about it. We have many coronaviruses since forever, so what? This is not the first one.
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Don't panic... or panic. Binary

Between 2/3% of people contaminated died.
When i play omaha poker and put the pot on the river with 20% of chance to win, yes i panic.
8% end up in ICU no matter what their age, laying on a bed with a dozen tubes going into your body for 6 weeks while some nurse wipes your ass and pumps you full of drugs that cause organ damage while no one can visit you... is only pooboys dream. Yet your not dead so not added to the statistics. And those are the lucky ones.

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Really?

I doesn't know. On French TV there are talking about 2/3%, only older people.
We don't have the same information.
Maybe many countries communate or don't, and try to skip a panic

Really, i/we don't know the thrue

(I'm learning english, don't hesitate to correct me)
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Really?

I doesn't know. On French TV there are talking about 2/3%, only older people.
We don't have the same information.
Maybe many countries communate or don't, and try to skip a panic

Really, i/we don't know the thrue

(I'm learning english, don't hesitate to correct me)
Italy has an outbreak unfolding, average age is 65 meaning half of all cases are under 65.

That's not based on who has it, or what happened in China but patients going to hospital today in Italy. Milan is one of the richest areas with the best hospitals in Italy.
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Really?

I doesn't know. On French TV there are talking about 2/3%, only older people.
We don't have the same information.
Maybe many countries communate or don't, and try to skip a panic

Really, i/we don't know the thrue

(I'm learning english, don't hesitate to correct me)

You are correct, based on what the medical community seems to believe and I am inclined to believe scientists.

The elderly and immunocompromised or otherwise seriously ill are at the greatest risk and should be extra careful.

Everyone else should mostly wash their hands and don't let sick people spit on them.
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It's just another cold/flu, until a family member dies from it... My biggest fear would be stuck in quarantine somewhere, so I'm not travelling anywhere for now.
yea the chinese idea of quarantine is crazy
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Italy has an outbreak unfolding, average age is 65 meaning half of all cases are under 65.
Average and median are two different things, but...

Deaths in italy:
0-49 yo = 0 cases
50-59 yo = 2.8% of cases
60-69 yo = 8.4% of cases
70-79 yo = 32.4% of cases
80-89 yo = 42.2% of cases
90 yo = 14.1% of cases

The 90+ probably is lower because there are less 90 year olds in general. Italy has a very old population, something like 60% is over 40.
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Average and median are two different things, but...

Deaths in italy:
0-49 yo = 0 cases
50-59 yo = 2.8% of cases
60-69 yo = 8.4% of cases
70-79 yo = 32.4% of cases
80-89 yo = 42.2% of cases
90 yo = 14.1% of cases

The 90+ probably is lower because there are less 90 year olds in general. Italy has a very old population, something like 60% is over 40.
Is there stats for China? Seems to be how as long you are less then 50 year old you will not die from it.
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Average and median are two different things, but...

Deaths in italy:
0-49 yo = 0 cases
50-59 yo = 2.8% of cases
60-69 yo = 8.4% of cases
70-79 yo = 32.4% of cases
80-89 yo = 42.2% of cases
90 yo = 14.1% of cases

The 90+ probably is lower because there are less 90 year olds in general. Italy has a very old population, something like 60% is over 40.
Doctor Grasselli on in the tube video above who's coordinating the network of intensive care units in Lombardy Italy seems to be saying different and he's at ground zero right now.

You keep on supporting your Trump voting pencil pushing doctor of quack, but for myself I'd rather hear it from those fighting the battle right now and what their up against on a day to day base... that reports from yesterday. where he says 65 is medium age, 50% higher and 50% lower.

The death rate is higher for older people, but as far as ending up isolated in ICU we need to be thinking more like those over 35.
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Patient 1 in Italy is out of intensive care after 3 weeks.

Which is a very good news.

But also, you better put things in context:
he is 38, healthy, no previous disease, marathon runner.
And his pneumonia took 3 weeks to get out of intensive care, will remain in hospital for another 2-6 weeks and long term damage is unknown at this stage.

But hes not dead.
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it's only less of a big deal because 3 months ago it didn't exist in humans and therefore hasn't had time to spread. If it continues to spread and becomes a seasonal thing that tons of people get every year (which seems likely), it's gonna suck. It'll kill way more than the flu does.
I agree. If we make it through the summer, we might be in trouble come oct-nov when the when the cold and flu season starts.

We can only pray for a vaccine. Which makes me wonder how many people would die if we didn't have a flu vaccine? I read it's around 40% of the population get the flu vaccine every year. That's around 120 million people.
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My recommendation... buy travel and resort type stocks while they are getting hammered. Oh... and short Casper... it will be a $3 stock by years end.
Personally I don' t follow that sector, but that whole "never try to catch a falling knife" comes into play, for me at least. I really don't think this is like a bad earnings quarter type of play. The chances of getting this under control anytime soon doesn't look good.

I was just looking at the pounding these stocks have had. Most are down 50-60% in the last month. Can these the cruise lines survive without passengers for a year or 2?

Some of these cruise lines could go tits up.
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if this continues as a seasonal thing, killing more than the flu each year we are going to see a big drop in life expectancy.

people are desensitized, they have seen scares come and go so the vast majority just shrug their shoulders and go on with life but lets remember this is not the last time we are going to see something like this. there will be other viruses, possibly more deadly in the future. lets hope a vaccine gets put out (safely) sooner than later. There are a lot of people with a lot of life left that if they get covid-19, they will most likely die.

Fact is, anyone can die from this. If your immune system goes overload trying to fight this and you don't get medical attention in time, your organs are destroyed and you die. if you look at the chinese stats are there are a few hundred people in their 30-40's that have died.
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Patient 1 in Italy is out of intensive care after 3 weeks.

Which is a very good news.

But also, you better put things in context:
he is 38, healthy, no previous disease, marathon runner.
And his pneumonia took 3 weeks to get out of intensive care, will remain in hospital for another 2-6 weeks and long term damage is unknown at this stage.

But hes not dead.
Jeezus.

And at the other end of the scale I heard an interview the other night with a healthcare nurse who said she tested positive but her symptoms were so mild she thought it was just a slight cold and didn't think of getting tested for a while.

This virus is all over the map when it comes to how it reacts on people.
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Patient 1 in Italy is out of intensive care after 3 weeks.

Which is a very good news.

But also, you better put things in context:
he is 38, healthy, no previous disease, marathon runner.
And his pneumonia took 3 weeks to get out of intensive care, will remain in hospital for another 2-6 weeks and long term damage is unknown at this stage.

But hes not dead.
i guess this explains all the data and rumours around ICU being overloaded quickly
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