The stock market and what stocks do you have/like?

[pornguy]

When the market started to fall someone was talking about this. I think I posted here that the cruise lines would be a good investment and said that RCL would be the one to watch.

I thought at the time it would fall to 26$ per and it actually hit 23 for a few days. I got in at 26. Could have been better had I waited a week but still not bad. Today its over 60$ But its going to slip a little again.

I also got into PLUG which is an industrial battery company. most of forklifts etc.. But they work in other areas as well. Its now at 11 and its going to slowly grow. This one is a long term if anyone is interested.

Also watching NKLA the electric truck company. As well as the other cruise lines.

What else is good to watch?

[CurrentlySober]

I like POO

[pornguy]

Sorry Mate. Cant get my hands into that one!

[CurrentlySober]

[NALEM]

PornGuy, regardless of their understanding of the stock market, everyone has their own strategy to investing (gambling). Some skip over buying the stocks themselves, and focus on the options market.

As I have no insider knowledge of any one company, and don't have the resources to retain a reliable team of analysis, I have accepted the reality that I am in fact gambling, and I will only gamble what I can afford to lose.

I have chosen to spread myself into various general industries that I have relative understanding of, professionally or as a consumer. To dilute risk further, I have taken the extra step, of purchasing stocks in several companies that compete in the same industry.

Last, I am not looking for the safe bet, but for the big payout. Looking back on the previous crisis, and the one we have now, I looking at:

- the previous 52 week high with the hope they return to that level within 2 years
- stocks that are 1/4 to 1/3rd what they were a few months ago, so the potential gain is 3-4 x or 300-400% within those 2 years.
- P/E between 3 and 7
- majority of analysts show a strong purchase or hold

If you want me to share my own spread sheet, write me at alex @ nalem dot com.

Good luck!

[Spunky]

The ones making money

[Slappin Fish]

Yep let's all get into the market when it is at an all time high over-valuation of 170% GDP.

My butcher, my hairdresser, the taxi driver everybody wants to get into stocks now. Why? because everybody else is doing it, when it is probably the worst time. No wonder small retail investors always end up getting burned.

[Ferus]

Remember when people said I was stupid spelling my bitcoin less than 2 weeks before the crash, and invested in hydrogen? Check my Amazon and NEL stock over the same periode, and tell I was wrong 😀

[pimpmaster9000]

bubble as fuck....

[Goethe]

Google “Buffett Index” and then decide if you want to be contrarian or not

[jscott]

Stock market is a joke, in relation to economies.

Betting on stock market (in general) is like betting on the Dream Team with Jordan. You can't lose.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by pornguy

When the market started to fall someone was talking about this. I think I posted here that the cruise lines would be a good investment and said that RCL would be the one to watch.

I thought at the time it would fall to 26$ per and it actually hit 23 for a few days. I got in at 26. Could have been better had I waited a week but still not bad. Today its over 60$ But its going to slip a little again.

I also got into PLUG which is an industrial battery company. most of forklifts etc.. But they work in other areas as well. Its now at 11 and its going to slowly grow. This one is a long term if anyone is interested.

Also watching NKLA the electric truck company. As well as the other cruise lines.

What else is good to watch?

I'm up 47% on Plug in 2 weeks.

Might want to look into Bloom Energy too. Very volatile right now but if you believe in Hydrogen...

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Ferus

Remember when people said I was stupid spelling my bitcoin less than 2 weeks before the crash, and invested in hydrogen? Check my Amazon and NEL stock over the same periode, and tell I was wrong 😀

Bought 2000 NEL because of you ;)

Thanks for that!

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

I'm up 47% on Plug in 2 weeks.

Might want to look into Bloom Energy too. Very volatile right now but if you believe in Hydrogen...

Yes Plug is a good one. And its going to continue to grow.

People that are calling this a bubble are looking at the fast in and out and High High profit quickly.

The point I am making is for instance the cruise industry. Its a fair and long term investment that you can make some money in. Its going to have its ups and downs. But an industry with these numbers does not normally slip quietly away.


"6 billion in total economic impact and 1 million jobs paying $41 billion in wages and salaries were generated by the global cruise industry in 2016.• Demand for cruising increased 20.5% in the last five years. • The cruise industry is the fastest-growing category in the leisure travel market"

With the race for electric cars etc. There is money there as well. But don't think of buy and dump think long term with dividend that can fuel your retirement.

I also buy into mutual funds. But right now my stocks have returned more than 24.2% where the funds have only done 22%

[jscott]

Originally Posted by Ferus

Remember when people said I was stupid spelling my bitcoin less than 2 weeks before the crash, and invested in hydrogen? Check my Amazon and NEL stock over the same periode, and tell I was wrong ��

Don't pat yourself on the back too often man. Remember, EVERY stock in every market has sky rocketed. More money printed in June than in the history of USA.

Just sayin'

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Yes Plug is a good one. And its going to continue to grow.

People that are calling this a bubble are looking at the fast in and out and High High profit quickly.

The point I am making is for instance the cruise industry. Its a fair and long term investment that you can make some money in. Its going to have its ups and downs. But an industry with these numbers does not normally slip quietly away.


"6 billion in total economic impact and 1 million jobs paying $41 billion in wages and salaries were generated by the global cruise industry in 2016.• Demand for cruising increased 20.5% in the last five years. • The cruise industry is the fastest-growing category in the leisure travel market"

With the race for electric cars etc. There is money there as well. But don't think of buy and dump think long term with dividend that can fuel your retirement.

I also buy into mutual funds. But right now my stocks have returned more than 24.2% where the funds have only done 22%

Not that optimistic on cruises as you are - this whole Corona thing might be a game changer and there are also large environmental challenges for that industry. From zero emission to being shut out of cities like Venice or Norwegian fjordes...

Will also see how many shipyards survive this, pretty much all new orders are on hold.

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by jscott

Don't pat yourself on the back too often man. Remember, EVERY stock in every market has sky rocketed. More money printed in June than in the history of USA.

Just sayin'

The point I wanted to make was; no matter the situation, if you attack it the right way, there is profit waiting to be made. You can still make money on Bitcoin if you want, but I believe you should only invest your time and money in stuff you are REALLY in to.

I understand if it came across as you saw it, but that was only 10% of the reason for the comment.

[OneHungLo]

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I wouldn't put too much in till after the election.

If Trump wins the market and economy will continue to roar with tax cuts ( payroll & cap gains) pro business policies will continue, more manufacturing jobs coming back, china getting punished severely. Trump will turn his sites on european trade deficits and will punish accordingly.

Biden plans on bringing back obama's business stifling policies and giving us the largest tax increase in American history.

A biden win can and will tank the market.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

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I wouldn't put too much in till after the election.

If Trump wins the market and economy will continue to roar with tax cuts ( payroll & cap gains) pro business policies will continue, more manufacturing jobs coming back, china getting punished severely. Trump will turn his sites on european trade deficits and will punish accordingly.

Biden plans on bringing back obama's business stifling policies and giving us the largest tax increase in American history.

A biden win can and will tank the market.

too bad you are not capable of leaving your political bullshit agenda out of this - not even in this forum we're safe from it.

basically no need to show up to this forum anymore either

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

too bad you are not capable of leaving your political bullshit agenda out of this - not even in this forum we're safe from it.

basically no need to show up to this forum anymore either

Sorry but the 2 are intertwined.

[ReggieDurango]

Tgodf

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by jscott

Don't pat yourself on the back too often man. Remember, EVERY stock in every market has sky rocketed. More money printed in June than in the history of USA.

Just sayin'

Honestly. I never pat myself on the back for anything. And its amazing how many stocks have actually crashed.

Not a real crash but a stock going from 86 to 23 and back to 60 is a good thing to watch. Not many if any here could actually make a killing with this but some could have made a nice chunk.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

Not that optimistic on cruises as you are - this whole Corona thing might be a game changer and there are also large environmental challenges for that industry. From zero emission to being shut out of cities like Venice or Norwegian fjordes...

Will also see how many shipyards survive this, pretty much all new orders are on hold.

100% certain that this virus is a game changer. However I feel that its going to change in the long run of the ships and aircraft being better for us all.

I think I have been on airlines maybe 100 times in my life. out of that I have gotten sick maybe 20% of the time within days of flying.

I have been on 20 cruises. I have never gotten sick. However that does not mean that I cant or wont.

I do feel that both of these industries will invest what it takes to keep moving. You simply don't walk away from that kind of money.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

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I wouldn't put too much in till after the election.

If Trump wins the market and economy will continue to roar with tax cuts ( payroll & cap gains) pro business policies will continue, more manufacturing jobs coming back, china getting punished severely. Trump will turn his sites on european trade deficits and will punish accordingly.

Biden plans on bringing back obama's business stifling policies and giving us the largest tax increase in American history.

A biden win can and will tank the market.

I dont think the markets will tank with Biden. However I do see another dip. For those of us willing to take the risk, this is a good thing.

Markets falling some are always a chance for people to get into something they could not afford before. That means in the long run the markets will rebound even higher.

[GFED]

Aerospace and defense.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

Not that optimistic on cruises as you are - this whole Corona thing might be a game changer and there are also large environmental challenges for that industry. From zero emission to being shut out of cities like Venice or Norwegian fjordes...

Will also see how many shipyards survive this, pretty much all new orders are on hold.

Forgot the comment about Venice and the cruise industry.

This has been a battle for a very long time. The " Residents " have wanted the ships gone. But the city will play hell surviving as it has without them.

The residents believe that the tourists will come. and they will. But not in the numbers they think. First off the airport is on the mainland and not on the islands. Getting to the islands is not hard, but its not easy either. Then from the first islands to St Marks is either a water taxi ride or a fair walk. I have done both. And the price of the water taxi is going up no matter what. With fewer tourists its going to cost even more.

Not long ago the Residents of the city stated that they wanted only the tourists that could afford the city. Which means they will get about 400 people a year.

On my last visit a coffee in St Marks plaza was 18 euros. Its not that I cant afford that. its that I wont. as most people I would rather spend that money on something more than a over priced undersized drink.

When the ships come they bring thousands. The ship I was on had 4k people and we spent the night there. So 2 days of enjoying the city. I bought close to 1k in clothing and boat rides over to Murano and other islands. ( Did NOT have the coffee )

In time they will be forced to bring the ships back. IN the mean time Genoa will get them. and that is another city I spent time in and its worth it.

But I do agree that the ships should be docking someplace outside the island chain.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

If Trump wins the market and economy will continue to roar with tax cuts ( payroll & cap gains) pro business policies will continue, more manufacturing jobs coming back, china getting punished severely. Trump will turn his sites on european trade deficits and will punish accordingly.
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yes yes punish punish...good luck selling anything at all in the future with your expensive as fuck stuff nobody needs

oh and dont address the obvious: no deficit = no inflation dump bright bright future no doubt

[candyflip]

I banked off of Kodak a few weeks back. When I installed RobinHood, to fuck around with trading myself. I put $500 into Kodak and it was just over $1.50 per share. Woke up one morning to the news that they'd gotten a big government loan and were going to start producing pharmaceuticals. The stock got to over $50 and start dropping. I sold at $46 and did pretty well, for someone who had no clue what they were doing and totally lucked out.

I would advise against that one at the moment, the government as stalled the loan because of insider trading suspicions and the shares are back down to about $9 today.

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

too bad you are not capable of leaving your political bullshit agenda out of this - not even in this forum we're safe from it.

basically no need to show up to this forum anymore either

What a fucking bitch you turned out to be.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by candyflip

I banked off of Kodak a few weeks back. When I installed RobinHood, to fuck around with trading myself. I put $500 into Kodak and it was just over $1.50 per share. Woke up one morning to the news that they'd gotten a big government loan and were going to start producing pharmaceuticals. The stock got to over $50 and start dropping. I sold at $46 and did pretty well, for someone who had no clue what they were doing and totally lucked out.

I would advise against that one at the moment, the government as stalled the loan because of insider trading suspicions and the shares are back down to about $9 today.

Yep. I saw that but did not get in.

Kodak has not been moving forward like they should have. they kind of stalled out when it came to Digital cameras and such. From the leader in film and camera to almost nonexistent.

Sears is one that hit the floor as well. They went into restructure and have another hearing on Sept 11. they hit as low as just under a penny per share and are now at 30 cents more or less.

I think they are going to pop back to maybe 90 cents or 1.10 and then stall out unless they unveil a Major change. Which I dont think is going to happen.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by pornguy

I dont think the markets will tank with Biden.

So you think the largest tax hike in history for income, corporate and capital gains taxes will be good for the market?

According to the Tax Foundation’s General Equilibrium Model, Biden’s collective policies would reduce GDP by 1.5 percent over the long-run, reduce wages by 0.98 percent and eliminate about 585,000 jobs. But they would increase federal tax revenue by $3.8 trillion between 2021 and 2030 relative to current law.

Did you honestly even read his plan for taxes?

I've been following the market for over 20 years...I just don't see how you could think this anything but a bad thing? Raising taxes in a pandemic? Yikes.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

So you think the largest tax hike in history for income, corporate and capital gains taxes will be good for the market?



Did you honestly even read his plan for taxes?

I've been following the market for over 20 years...I just don't see how you could think this anything but a bad thing? Raising taxes in a pandemic? Yikes.

Oh I agree with you 100%. I think its a bad thing. but either way we are screwed. When it comes down to the vote its always the same. Which idiot will the people vote for.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Oh I agree with you 100%. I think its a bad thing. but either way we are screwed. When it comes down to the vote its always the same. Which idiot will the people vote for.

uh one guy is going to continue bringing jobs back home and lower capital gains and payroll taxes vs the guy that will send jobs back to china and raise ALL taxes (income, corporate and capital gains).

Politics aside, I'm a capitalist pig at heart. If I thought Biden was going to make me more money I'd sell Trump out in a blink of an eye, but it's very, very clear what's going to happen here if one wins vs the other.

But we are due for a big correction. The market will get that correction with Biden. With a Trump win I think we get a 40-50k dow.

[OneHungLo]

“It’s a huge negative for the market,” says Brian McCarthy, head of Macrolens in Stamford, Connecticut. Biden plans on hiking capital gains, which is not just about stocks, bonds and dividend checks for fat cats. This also impacts housing sales and business sales.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapo.../#7405c57d410a

There will be some very economic destructive policies that the market will not like.

I would hold off on any investment till Nov 4th.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

uh one guy is going to continue bringing jobs back home and lower capital gains and payroll taxes vs the guy that will send jobs back to china and raise ALL taxes (income, corporate and capital gains).

Politics aside, I'm a capitalist pig at heart. If I thought Biden was going to make me more money I'd sell Trump out in a blink of an eye, but it's very, very clear what's going to happen here if one wins vs the other.

But we are due for a big correction. The market will get that correction with Biden. With a Trump win I think we get a 40-50k dow.

I get what you mean. But I think if we have another 4 of Trump we face much bigger problems than what Biden will bring. ( personal opinion and not arguing your beliefs. )

No matter what these guys are politicians and they are out for themselves. Im certain that if Biden tanks the markets he is hurting himself.

But when it comes down to it a good number of these companies are much bigger than these two guys.

[todservices]

i have some money on a mix of funds - this is managed by my bank in Spain.
I don't follow it, i watch it like every 3 months.
They have % in some funds - Mostly EU and US, each fund is composed of x% of some large companies like nestle, carrefour, google, FB, GlaxoSmithKline, whatever i don't even care - and it's spreaded over 15-20 different funds. It's conservative, low risk, just to keep my money warm until i need it

this is the stats from past months, totally crisis-proof : it's was already back up from Covid in April!! How cool is that ?
You can have a worldwide pandemic, and your money is still here....
Definitely better than investing in any kind of small business if you ask me...

I made 1.96% in a year lol

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by candyflip

What a fucking bitch you turned out to be.

coming from a thief and scammer that is rich

[ANAL PASTE]

I am about to pull Tesla trigger. They announced split, so Im thinking to trade my not so aggressive mutual fund for Tesla stock. Get rich or die trying!

[Boob Bucks]

Something is going on with this market. Going up and up with only a few companies making decent money during this pandemic. I tried investing in some pot companies and they went up for a while. But then they are getting hammered now. The only one that seems to have a floor under it is Canopy Growth. I guess they have deep enough pockets and investors to keep it afloat.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by Boob Bucks

Something is going on with this market. Going up and up with only a few companies making decent money during this pandemic. I tried investing in some pot companies and they went up for a while. But then they are getting hammered now. The only one that seems to have a floor under it is Canopy Growth. I guess they have deep enough pockets and investors to keep it afloat.

I saw an article from one of the top 10 universities in the US doing a study on the use of Marijuana. As more studies are done I think we will eventually see this criminalized again. But in the mean time you can make some cash.

I was going to put some into that as well but then I noted how they were springing up like acne on a teenager and decided not to. Both of the ones I was looking at fell from the price and have not come back up to that lever since.

[Markul]

Originally Posted by ANAL PASTE

I am about to pull Tesla trigger. They announced split, so Im thinking to trade my not so aggressive mutual fund for Tesla stock. Get rich or die trying!

Not too late to get in now that they split

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by Markul

Not too late to get in now that they split

Any thoughts on all the new competition and how it will effect Tesla. I mean Its good and bad to have competitors. But will the stocks hold as high as they are or will the settle down some.

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

coming from a thief and scammer that is rich

Funny you think all that was real and that I didn't actually work with Fletch on a few occasions

You're the piece of shit how moved to the eastern bloc so that you could exploit their women for less money. And you're a bitch. Fucking loser.

[Markul]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Any thoughts on all the new competition and how it will effect Tesla. I mean Its good and bad to have competitors. But will the stocks hold as high as they are or will the settle down some.

I am holding. At least the ones I have now as I sold off half when they were at $1650.

Tesla is more than just cars, they are GigaFactories, Solar panel roofs, wall chargers and a whole world wide network of super chargers. But their real value is actually in the software.

Look at VW, they have a whole "Tesla killer" range of electric cars lined up, yet a few month before they should hit the market, they fire their top guy that's heading up their software division.

They are all years behind on the software side and the same goes for battery.

I don't like to speculate on where the stock goes, you are almost never right. Personally I just look at fundamentals, then at what I spend my money on (that way I at least support my own holdings) and then at unicorns like Tesla. But I would expect them to go to previous levels in 6-12 months.

Battery day will decide how fast it goes

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by candyflip

Funny you think all that was real and that I didn't actually work with Fletch on a few occasions

You're the piece of shit how moved to the eastern bloc so that you could exploit their women for less money. And you're a bitch. Fucking loser.

Nah man, it was me you tried to rip off by taking my money and only delivered after I called you out on it.

It's 16 years but I have a good memory, Jason...

[sandman!]

Tecl is doing good for me.

[OneHungLo]

This has been the most insane ride. Thank god I didn't sell.



^ I was down 25% from Feb to Mar to up over 20% from my high back in Feb. Wild.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

This has been the most insane ride. Thank god I didn't sell.



^ I was down 25% from Feb to Mar to up over 20% from my high back in Feb. Wild.

Thats great. Hope its enough to get you a retirement.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by ANAL PASTE

I am about to pull Tesla trigger. They announced split, so Im thinking to trade my not so aggressive mutual fund for Tesla stock. Get rich or die trying!

Just found this article. Honestly when it comes to these talking heads I dont often listen. But the numbers he is talking about seem to prove out. So I understand that he is saying these prices at least for tesla will drop in the next 5 years.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/billi...125040865.html

Get in while you can I guess and hope for continued increase.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by Markul

I am holding. At least the ones I have now as I sold off half when they were at $1650.

Tesla is more than just cars, they are GigaFactories, Solar panel roofs, wall chargers and a whole world wide network of super chargers. But their real value is actually in the software.

Look at VW, they have a whole "Tesla killer" range of electric cars lined up, yet a few month before they should hit the market, they fire their top guy that's heading up their software division.

They are all years behind on the software side and the same goes for battery.

I don't like to speculate on where the stock goes, you are almost never right. Personally I just look at fundamentals, then at what I spend my money on (that way I at least support my own holdings) and then at unicorns like Tesla. But I would expect them to go to previous levels in 6-12 months.

Battery day will decide how fast it goes

Yeah I know about the other things Tesla is in. But I don't know there is just something I don't like about the car part. But I do like his neuro science company but I don't think its traded yet. have not looked into it much.