Business Payment processors for explicit adult erotic art physical goods

[dcortez]

Who would you recommend for payment processing of sexually explicit adult art products (actual physical paintings and drawings)?

[MassMarketing]

Paypal, Shopify Payments, etc.

[CurrentlySober]

Paypal...

[dcortez]

Paypal expressly prohibits transactions of "obscene" materials, digital and physical. Sexually explicit art would fall into that category.

[CurrentlySober]

So, what exactly do we mean by “obscene”? The Supreme Court defines it as any material which "appeals to a prurient interest in sex, portrays sexual conduct in a patently offensive way," and which "does not have any serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value." Taken at face value, then, art—by definition—could never be obscene, and that would be the end of our discussion!

Heres your argument...

[dcortez]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Heres your argument...

I don't have any issues supporting Supreme Court rulings, which strongly excuse erotic sexual art from being considered "obscene", but I would feel much better about using Paypal as a processor based on first-hand long-term experiences by those who are already successfully doing this (not simply "getting way with it"), and it would be even better to find a TOS statement from Paypal which specifically acknowledges erotic art as being exempt from the legal definitions/rulings on "obscenity".

There are literary publishers who actually include a breakout section in their TOS to clearly define specific types of erotica and what they permit, don't permit, and what they advise against in terms of content.

So are there any Paypal vendors of erotic art that have been doing it successfully with Paypal's explicit consent?

What further complicates things is that unlike Canada, where the Criminal Code is Federal, state laws have varying interpretations and tolerances regarding sexual content.

Shipping erotic art to the US is another hurdle.

[dcortez]

Further on using Paypal for sexually explicit erotic art, here is a useful guidelines page:

https://www.paypal.com/us/smarthelp/...ervices-faq569

Bottom line...

* Only US-transactions (not sure if this means US destinations or US-source-and-destinations).

* No digitally transmitted content, although sending a flashdrive or DVD-ROM with content seems permissible.

* They "consider" the literary, artistic, political, or scientific value of the product.

This seems to leave more room to work with although Paypal does have a long history of surprising merchants with frozen accounts and permanent account deletions without warning. They have also bullied Patreon to de-sexualize their account portfolios in the past.

I know many adult biz folks are using Paypal for B2B, but even being paid for explicit graphic design/artwork or copy writing/authoring of sexual site reviews (which is transmitted as digital content) is pushing the limits of their TOS.

Can adult payment processors be used for physical goods?

[dcortez]

Is anyone here using PaymentCloud?

[hdbuilder]

Check this thread -> https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...ult-sites.html

[dcortez]

Originally Posted by hdbuilder

Check this thread -> https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...ult-sites.html

Thanks for that.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by dcortez

Thanks for that.

Are you a GFY advertiser?

If not then:

FIX YOUR FUCKING SIG!!

dammit

https://gfy.com/gfy-rules-and-regula...gulations.html

Signature rules. Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 lines of text. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Yes there is a reason this is so big. Also putting your text in a cell and making it look like a button is against the rules. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more than 3 lines of text. Over the top sigs will be deleted without warning!

Even if you are a GFY advertiser, the rules are a 624X80 button. You are way the fuck beyond that and it is rude as shit.


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[dcortez]

thanks for the heads up!!

Originally Posted by sarettah

are you a gfy advertiser?

If not then:

fix your fucking sig!!

dammit

https://gfy.com/gfy-rules-and-regula...gulations.html



even if you are a gfy advertiser, the rules are a 624x80 button. You are way the fuck beyond that and it is rude as shit.


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[sarettah]

Originally Posted by dcortez

thanks for the heads up!!

you are fucking welcome

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[NETbilling]

Originally Posted by dcortez

Who would you recommend for payment processing of sexually explicit adult art products (actual physical paintings and drawings)?

NETbilling can certainly help, depending on your location. Please check out NETbilling.com and contact [email protected].

We are looking forward to serving you.

Thanks, Mitch

[mechanicvirus]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Are you a GFY advertiser?

If not then:

FIX YOUR FUCKING SIG!!

dammit

https://gfy.com/gfy-rules-and-regula...gulations.html



Even if you are a GFY advertiser, the rules are a 624X80 button. You are way the fuck beyond that and it is rude as shit.


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Whoa sig shaming now? GFY is literally twitter!!!!

[dcortez]

Originally Posted by NETbilling

NETbilling can certainly help, depending on your location. Please check out NETbilling.com and contact [email protected].

We are looking forward to serving you.

Thanks, Mitch

Thanks Mitch. I have dropped a line to your sales folks.

-Dino

[Mobius Matt]

MobiusPay can help you as well.

[pornguy]

I would not trust paypal with money for adult. They tend to say yes and then freeze an account when its holding money.

Use Netbilling or other.