Piracy takedowns

[axel77]

A specific tube sites uploading content and ignoring take down notices. Any advice?

[Ferus]

https://www.pirat.io/

[OneHungLo]

Have you tried the host?

[celandina]

Originally Posted by Ferus

https://www.pirat.io/

They do not list costs. Any idea?

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by celandina

They do not list costs. Any idea?

Depends on what service you want, you need to talk to them

[Brian mike]

Originally Posted by axel77

A specific tube sites uploading content and ignoring take down notices. Any advice?

Try This Kevin Wright

[PornDiscounts-V]

Get a local guy to break the legs of the site owner. In many countries it can be done for as little as $250.

https://support.google.com/legal/tro.../1114905?hl=en

[hamiltonsteele]

Originally Posted by axel77

A specific tube sites uploading content and ignoring take down notices. Any advice?

Start by contacting the host and if that's not possible then contact the registrar.

[RycEric]

Pirate ID – Unmask Pirates Without Litgation – [email protected]

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by RycEric

Pirate ID – Unmask Pirates Without Litgation – [email protected]

Does this company subpoena the domain registry with the hopes the pirate registered the domain with a real name?

Have you used them? Website looks shifty.

[RycEric]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Does this company subpoena the domain registry with the hopes the pirate registered the domain with a real name?

Have you used them? Website looks shifty.

That's because I suck at web design. We've shut down a number of large sites. The ones who don't run off, avoid posting the content again. Most of the information comes from CloudFlare - where 90% of pirates sit now btw. They give you a beautiful package.. almost everything except the operator's (or operators') shoe size.

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by RycEric

That's because I suck at web design. We've shut down a number of large sites. The ones who don't run off, avoid posting the content again. Most of the information comes from CloudFlare - where 90% of pirates sit now btw. They give you a beautiful package.. almost everything except the operator's (or operators') shoe size.

I would love to hear which large sites you've managed to shutdown.
90% of pirate what?

Are you talking about removeyourcontent.com ?

[RycEric]

Originally Posted by RyuLion

I would love to hear which large sites you've managed to shutdown.
90% of pirate what?

Are you talking about removeyourcontent.com ?

(Edit) 90% of pirate domains use Cloudflare. That's the largest repository of illegal and pirate domains on the planet.
If you know of a larger service provider, helping these guys stay online, please tell me.

I can tell you in private but I'm not disclosing them here and NO I am not. If you knew anything about subpoenas, you would know that they are for rights enforcement only.. not PR.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by RycEric

That's because I suck at web design. We've shut down a number of large sites. The ones who don't run off, avoid posting the content again. Most of the information comes from CloudFlare - where 90% of pirates sit now btw. They give you a beautiful package.. almost everything except the operator's (or operators') shoe size.

It seems like cloudflare could at most give you is the actual IP address of the server.

[baodb]

Cloudflare is a CDN/reverse proxy. They do not host content so I don't know what you mean with biggest pirate provider?

There are also several ways to get the true origin behind cloudflare without having to speak to them or getting it directly from cloudflare.

[RycEric]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

It seems like cloudflare could at most give you is the actual IP address of the server.

You get a lot more and if it's a paid account (most are especially on the big sites).. you will get ALL payment-related forms and details..Name, address, phone, emails, etc. Additionally, you get zone changes (other domains) and IP entry/exits logs dating back to day one.

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by RycEric

You get a lot more and if it's a paid account (most are especially on the big sites).. you will get ALL payment-related forms and details..Name, address, phone, emails, etc. Additionally, you get zone changes (other domains) and IP entry/exits logs dating back to day one.

[RycEric]

Originally Posted by baodb

Cloudflare is a CDN/reverse proxy. They do not host content so I don't know what you mean with biggest pirate provider?

There are also several ways to get the true origin behind cloudflare without having to speak to them or getting it directly from cloudflare.

Yes, they are a provider. I didn't say they were a host.
https://www.copyright.gov/dmca-directory/ (Provider)

Indeed there are, however, you will won't get billing details and any relevant whois since most of it is faked. If you are faking billing, you are smarter than the average bear.
Domaintools historical has basically been wiped now do to GDPR.

[RycEric]

Originally Posted by Ferus

I've been here for over 10 years, why would I have any reason to bullshit?
https://torrentfreak.com/after-henta...inexus-210206/

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by RycEric

You get a lot more and if it's a paid account (most are especially on the big sites).. you will get ALL payment-related forms and details..Name, address, phone, emails, etc. Additionally, you get zone changes (other domains) and IP entry/exits logs dating back to day one.

Very impressed with your knowledge - will keep your site and contact info for future reference and recommendations. Thank you.

[RycEric]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

Very impressed with your knowledge - will keep your site and contact info for future reference and recommendations. Thank you.

Thanks Robert!

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by RycEric

why would I have any reason to bullshit?

It's not my job to speculate "why" you would make such claims, but I do know Cloudflare would not "just" disclose the information you mentioned, based on unchallendgend claims by third-party representatives.

You might have repeated that story to yourself for the last 1o years, so you have started to belive in it yourself, but that dont make it the truth.

Disclosing it without first providing notice and the opportunity to consent, is against the privacy laws where Cloudflare, Inc. is based.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by RycEric

Pirate ID – Unmask Pirates Without Litgation – [email protected]

Funny, I would love to see how a subpoena would work in Moldova or Albania

[celandina]

Originally Posted by RycEric

You get a lot more and if it's a paid account (most are especially on the big sites).. you will get ALL payment-related forms and details..Name, address, phone, emails, etc. Additionally, you get zone changes (other domains) and IP entry/exits logs dating back to day one.

Actual cut and paste:

Matthew (Cloudflare Trust & Safety)

May 22, 2020, 10:54:10 AM GMT+1

Hello,

Nameservers do not indicate where a website is hosted, the website doesn't resolve to an IP address controlled by us. We cannot remove content from an IP address which doesn't belong to us.

Claoudflare will do jack shit

[celandina]

Originally Posted by Ferus

Depends on what service you want, you need to talk to them

Even a hooker posts her rates , so no thanks

[RycEric]

Originally Posted by celandina

Actual cut and paste:

Claoudflare will do jack shit

Yes... good.. good.. Let the hate Flo0000ow through you.
I know what I'm doing. If I can help you, please feel free to contact.

[RycEric]

Originally Posted by Ferus

It's not my job to speculate "why" you would make such claims, but I do know Cloudflare would not "just" disclose the information you mentioned, based on unchallendgend claims by third-party representatives.

You might have repeated that story to yourself for the last 1o years, so you have started to belive in it yourself, but that dont make it the truth.

Disclosing it without first providing notice and the opportunity to consent, is against the privacy laws where Cloudflare, Inc. is based.

A subpoena is a court order my friend. If I can help, contact me and let's chat.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by celandina

Actual cut and paste:



Claoudflare will do jack shit

I think what he's saying is, if someone is using Ccloudflare's paid service, a subpoena will force them to turn over all the information they have for that customer.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

I think what he's saying is, if someone is using Ccloudflare's paid service, a subpoena will force them to turn over all the information they have for that customer.

Hmmm, I guess 25 K retainer up front If it was that easy there would be NO piracy.

[baodb]

I too would like to see proof that it is economically viable to get customer information out of CloudFlare for piracy cases. I don't doubt it can be done, but at scale and in a way where it makes financial sense? I would be shocked if so...

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by RycEric

You get a lot more and if it's a paid account (most are especially on the big sites).. you will get ALL payment-related forms and details..Name, address, phone, emails, etc. Additionally, you get zone changes (other domains) and IP entry/exits logs dating back to day one.

Ok, we can get the info... then what?

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by baodb

I too would like to see proof that it is economically viable to get customer information out of CloudFlare for piracy cases. I don't doubt it can be done, but at scale and in a way where it makes financial sense? I would be shocked if so...

In Europe, you can file a criminal complaint for piracy. It's totally free

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by celandina

Hmmm, I guess 25 K retainer up front If it was that easy there would be NO piracy.

Having a lawyer send an official letter with notice to the site owner would prolly not cost more than 500€. The question is, if it's still worth it and what is the possible outcome. He may just delete the scenes and that's it. If he doesn't delete them, then what? Filing a criminal complaint could be effective - but you don't need a lawyer for that.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by axel77

A specific tube sites uploading content and ignoring take down notices. Any advice?

Where are you from?

Contact the domain registrant using the email addy in their whois, as that one must be correct (if it is not correct, contact the domain registrar) and request them to remove all your content with a simple warning that if they fail to do so you will file a criminal complaint for piracy. If they ignore that, try getting his hosting company info from Cloud Flare and email them with the same warning. If they ignore that, file a criminal complaint.

Companies can be held liable, so if they ignore piracy, they can face criminal charges.

[baodb]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

In Europe, you can file a criminal complaint for piracy. It's totally free

Yeah, I think you can do that everywhere in the world. The question is what does the police with your complaint, how long will they take to do anything and then how will cloudflare react to it should it ever come to them.

If I run to the police in Europe because I am losing money on a leaked content every day, what do you think are the chances a US company will take down content/give me information any acceptable timeframe/at all?

[JesseQuinn]

Originally Posted by RycEric

removeyourcontent.com

I had to check my email history as this was years ago but your company helped me out -for free- when I was dealing with a pirate issue and was kinda new to all this

knew your biz name was familiar. y'all helped me solve the issue and actually provided me with info I've passed on to dozens of peeps over the years

Tony was his name, the dude who was so helpful to me

+1 for your company. and thank you =)

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by celandina

Hmmm, I guess 25 K retainer up front If it was that easy there would be NO piracy.

Originally Posted by baodb

I too would like to see proof that it is economically viable to get customer information out of CloudFlare for piracy cases. I don't doubt it can be done, but at scale and in a way where it makes financial sense? I would be shocked if so...

Eric could you give us some ballpark figures to get this information? And what would be the next step once you've obtained it if they are not based in the US?

[RycEric]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

In Europe, you can file a criminal complaint for piracy. It's totally free

Thanks, this does not involve law enforcement (unless you get the results and want it too). Also, law enforcement will not help adult in the US. The FBI told me, unless it involves "guns or drugs, we don't have the resources."
they said it's also "not good PR" for them ;)

[RycEric]

Originally Posted by JesseQuinn

I had to check my email history as this was years ago but your company helped me out -for free- when I was dealing with a pirate issue and was kinda new to all this

knew your biz name was familiar. y'all helped me solve the issue and actually provided me with info I've passed on to dozens of peeps over the years

Tony was his name, the dude who was so helpful to me

+1 for your company. and thank you =)

Thanks! Tony is still with me ;) He's contracting but definitely on the team

[RycEric]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Eric could you give us some ballpark figures to get this information? And what would be the next step once you've obtained it if they are not based in the US?

$800 turnkey and we'll handle all the admin/docs work. Also, the subpoena is issued by a lawyer and this includes the federal court's filing fee. It also includes any third-party correspondence.. which is not typical if you know the law firm route (hourly ).
The big thing here is there is no retainer and no lawsuit.

I'll PM you on the next step.

[RycEric]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Having a lawyer send an official letter with notice to the site owner would prolly not cost more than 500€. The question is, if it's still worth it and what is the possible outcome. He may just delete the scenes and that's it. If he doesn't delete them, then what? Filing a criminal complaint could be effective - but you don't need a lawyer for that.

Very close but this isn't a traditional C&D. I find these much more effective. I actually did one, out of my own pocket, last year because a cam ripping site was blackmailing cam models and them blaming the client. He's gone now and so is his site. He's in Europe... Germany to be specific.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by RycEric

Very close but this isn't a traditional C&D. I find these much more effective. I actually did one, out of my own pocket, last year because a cam ripping site was blackmailing cam models and them blaming the client. He's gone now and so is his site. He's in Europe... Germany to be specific.

Did the hosting company close his account or did he simply get scared and deleted his website?

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by RycEric

$800 turnkey and we'll handle all the admin/docs work. Also, the subpoena is issued by a lawyer and this includes the federal court's filing fee. It also includes any third-party correspondence.. which is not typical if you know the law firm route (hourly ).
The big thing here is there is no retainer and no lawsuit.

I'll PM you on the next step.

Thanks for the info.

[RycEric]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Did the hosting company close his account or did he simply get scared and deleted his website?

Opsec for public. PM ;)

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by RycEric

Opsec for public. PM ;)

Done

[celandina]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

In Europe, you can file a criminal complaint for piracy. It's totally free

Nonsense, just look on all the Dutch servers hosting this shit. Never mind those further East.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Having a lawyer send an official letter with notice to the site owner would prolly not cost more than 500€. The question is, if it's still worth it and what is the possible outcome. He may just delete the scenes and that's it. If he doesn't delete them, then what? Filing a criminal complaint could be effective - but you don't need a lawyer for that.

Funny boy

[RycEric]

Originally Posted by celandina

Funny boy

You don't seem to understand, however, that's not an issue.. for me anyways.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by celandina

Nonsense, just look on all the Dutch servers hosting this shit. Never mind those further East.

And that means what? Hosting companies don't control content hosted on their servers. Also, almost all of these thieves use CloudFlare and CF won't reveal any details about their clients unless confronted with authorities or lawyers.

In Czechia, pirates can face 3 - 8 years in prison in the worst cases.

Here is an English translation (Google translate) of the law:

§ 270 Infringement of copyright, rights related to copyright and rights to the database

(1) Whoever unjustifiably interferes not slightly with the legally protected rights to a copyright, work of art, sound or audio-visual recording, radio or television broadcast or database, shall be punished by imprisonment for up to two years, prohibition of activity or forfeiture of property.

(2) The offender shall be punished by imprisonment for six months to five years, a fine or forfeiture of the thing,

(a) where the act referred to in paragraph 1 shows signs of a commercial or other business,

(b) if, by doing so, he obtains significant gain for himself or for another, or if he thereby causes significant harm to another, or

(c) if he commits such an act to a significant extent.

(3) The offender shall be punished by imprisonment for three to eight years,

(a) if, by the act referred to in paragraph 1, he obtains, for himself or for another benefit, a large-scale benefit or thereby causes large-scale damage to another, or

(b) if he commits such an act on a large scale.

The police is obliged to act when you file a complaint. I don't think a reputable hosting company will be happy that they offer services to a Russian client who is being investigated for a crime ... which could make them liable too if they ignore that. Just show them a copy of the criminal complaint and I am sure they will act promptly.