kimwexler

Anyone seen/know a good example of the open to the public AI that can write adult content? I've seen some that work pretty well, but it was non-English. Cannot find anything close to the quality that will work in English.

LetterTwenty7

Hey Kim. Jimmy Mcgill says hi. Yea, I can write adult content for you.

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Klen

Which other languages you seen ?

kimwexler

Russian mostly, they are really good at it (you can barely recognize it wasn't written by a person), while the number 1 language on the planet looks like in its infancy, wtf

Klen

Well, i could use such thing for french, Spanish and German language . English is not so attractive to me because SEO wise it is most competitive market.

patadeperro

This is exactly what happens when memes are "adopted" by the industry... why are you overcomplicating the solution? you can do EXACTLY that with Google spreadsheets, this is how you do it:

a) you use importxml function to scrape the content you want to rewrite from a specific website.

b)go to tools, scripts and use the Markov chain function in javascript such as https://github.com/thomas-alrek/mark...rkov-chain.js/

That script will "rewrite" the content of the text, of course, there are some tweaks that need to be done, but the idea is there, I have given you the code, go to Fiverr and pay $25 for somebody to customized, now you have your own "AI software that creates text in English"

I have seen SO MANY companies that spend thousands of dollars on concepts/solutions that they are unable to comprehend or properly use, once you know the principles you can implement them with your own budget/needs.

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dcortez

20 years ago, when I started promoting my content online, I developed several stand-alone software applications that incorporated nested levels of English language processing, yielding fluent, highly randomized/nuanced natural language text for specific niches.

This worked well, and search engines indexed pages created with this text.

Even though I still use variations of my software to help with copy writing, because of the many other signals used by search engines when analyzing pages to be "organic" or not, it's faster to manually write unique adult promotional content that has just the right balance of keyword reinforcement and legitimate natural randomness.

In 2004, my software could crank out thousands of unique pages (all strategically hyper-cross-linked in the most effective topologies of the day) in one day, but today, dropping so much content in too short a time sets off red flags that can result in getting sandboxed or permanently disappeared from the web.

Based on my own experiences, slow and steady manual copy writing and legitimate audience building is the best way to go.

-Dino

kimwexler

That's a different topic really. You can grow slow even with AI instead of growing slow with paying for copyrighted text. Using AI doesn't exactly mean you'll post 100k pages at once.

dcortez

I am not advocating for high volume online content publishing, especially now.

My point about being able to manually write effective copy as quickly as a "reasonably slowed" AI source, is that professionally human written prose is more imaginative and organic than AI.

Overall, a human written website will be distinguishable (by humans and search engines) from one built using "canned text" - if that matters.

It really depends on what you are trying to create or achieve, and whether quality is of value to the work.

The question would be: "Why use AI?"

- Is it a language proficiency issue?

- Is it a niche or copy writing competence issue?

If speed/volume of content production is not an issue, then I am not sure how AI has anything to offer over human copy writing.

As far as "not paying" for content, there are two tracks:

"Black hat" content "procurement" which is blatant theft - even when "pseudo-rewriting" is applied (it's called a derivative work in copyright law).

In legitimate "white hat" content procurement/creation, it will always cost something - your time, the copy writer's time, or the cost of tools and the time to use those tools.

What do you mean by "not paying"?

-Dino

kimwexler

The AI I've seen working well in another language is free. The time it takes to use it is one click of a mouse. This is "not paying". I know it may be a hard concept for you since it is your income to write text.

And it's not about writing informative articles, obviously. I am talking about writing stuff like porn video descriptions where artsy human copywriting has no meaning, I'm sorry. No one really reads those except for google.

dcortez

Fair enough. Yes, search engines like google do evaluate non-graphic content.

BTW, my income is not from writing text. My work is about creating original visual and literal art for mainstream and adult audiences.

Good luck with your search.

-Dino

kimwexler

I'm sorry, my bad, confused you with someone else

dcortez

No worries.

vrporntycoon

I have tried some free stuff but I have not found anything as good as WordAI yet for free.

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kimwexler

WordAI looks good for rewriting but as I understand it they don't actually write from the scratch

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This feels like the end of something . . .

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AmeliaG

Can you link the Russian AI please? Now I am curious.

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AutumnBH

Technically nothing ever gets written from scratch. Regardless of whether you're using a simple markov solution, or a neural network, you need a decent volume of high quality input text in order to get sufficient variation for markov stuff or to train your model for a NN. If you don't have a sufficiently large startup corpus, you're going to get way too much repetition and Google won't like it.

Theoretically you could pay writers for your input text but in real life if you have the technical chops to do text generation you're just going to scrape it.

If you want the cutting edge then look into GPT-3, although you will have to train your own model for adult stuff since none of the existing public models work very well for adult text.

To the guy saying that human writers are ultimately better than computers, bullshit. At least not a single person. Yes, obviously if you're writing single pieces of copy then a human will do the best job. But if you're doing SE content generation at scale, there's no way a human can get anywhere close to the variation of a computer. Unless you're writing super high quality content to go viral, manual writing doesn't scale nearly hard enough to make a dent in the serps.

In a past life I wrote about 3 million words for Pimproll, mostly for porn.com. After a while you realize you're just writing the same shit over and over again.

dcortez

It's not AI (artificial intelligence) when you are simply doing recursive string substitutions. That is macro search/replace with possibly multiple templates.

AI requires a learning component, where, for example, it starts constructing its own grammatical (sentence) structures.

As for SE quality of human written text, from full length pages to aggregated snippets, if a human is repeating themselves after several thousand iterations, they lack the vocabulary, tools, imagination, and experience to produce limitless original copy.

At least that has been, and continues to be my experience, but I have only been doing this since 1997.

It was not my original content that lost in the SERPS, but my traffic was highjacked by eastern European content thieving scrapers (mostly Russians) who didn't even change my text, but their "scale of theft" included aggregated content stolen from numerous sites, making their mass larger - which some search engines valued more than intellectual property rights of original copyright holders. And on that scale knocking down every instance of stolen content becomes more cumbersome than just firewalling all eastern European traffic and obfuscating the text in nested layers of JavaScript.

AutumnBH

Sorry, you seem a bit confused. There are two types of text we write:

1) High quality text for your sales funnel (whether it's erotic or sales-y).
2) High volume text that's optimized for drawing in SE traffic.

You can't do (2) by hand. Yes, you can come up with unlimited original stuff if you have the time to spend. But the volumes of content required for an industrial scale SE spamming operation preclude doing it by hand and getting enough variation, whereas a well trained RNN does it effortlessly. And why the fuck would you want to? No human actually reads that shit. It exists only to satisfy the SEs. And the SEs don't actually particularly care about the quality of your text compared to other metrics you can game.

I have also been doing this for 20+ years and right now I'm probably one of the higher volume webcam affiliates in the SE space. Adult content writing is the absolute most bottom of the barrel and worthless task in the industry. No adult SEO with any volume writes their shit by hand. It's a total waste of time.

dcortez

Thanks for clarifying.

You are correct in that we do not do the same thing.

I do not engage in industrial scale SE spamming.

I write my content first for my human audience.

kimwexler

russiannlp.github.io/rugpt-demo

AmeliaG

Thank you! I'm looking forward to playing with https://russiannlp.github.io/rugpt-demo/

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Yup. Automation FTW.

cordoba

It takes me about 10 minutes to write a 200 word video description. Adding a small gallery with unique titles and alt tags takes maybe 5 minutes, then adding a Yoast header and tags another 5 minutes. I usually watch the trailer or even some or most of the full video (if the sponsor site has given me free access which they rarely do, even when I'm sending them a sale every day for years) in order to determine if it's good and so I can write a decent description/copy text and add appropriate tags for it. This takes 5 minutes maybe, and I only select videos I like (or think my viewers would enjoy) to post, so I end up watching videos I don't ultimately upload.

So the average blog post takes me maybe 30 minutes. Automating copy text might save me 10 minutes, but I'd still want to review and tweak, so perhaps an 8 minute saving. From the links above, it would cost over several hundred dollars for the software a year, and there is the risk of being penalized by Google if the text isn't 100%. I would need to be earning 6 figures for it to be worth the time savings and risk.