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Old 05-26-2022, 02:44 PM   #1
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How to find out which market is more profitable in general?

I'm currently a PSO. I have been since January, been selling content since 2019. Currently I offer phone sex, sexting, private cam and I make content including pics, vids, and erotica.

I want to either make a sexting/chat website or a website for erotica, or potentially a phone sex website, but that one is not my first choice for a couple reasons. How do I figure out the potential for these sites? I feel like it matters because if they're is no or little demand, that affects how much I invest in them.

Which is another point. How much money do you recommend having before you start this? It's not a problem, but I have absolutely no clue whether its 1-2k or 10k haha.

Also, is there anything else I should know before I start, do you recommend anything specific?
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Old 05-26-2022, 03:25 PM   #2
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Let's try to approach it from a different angle, and look at you as the creator who is capable of doing (and is doing) all of those things, so we shouldn't be thinking about whether or not you should focus on one of them, but how to combine them in a seamless way that would help both you and the potential customer.

There are lots of lonely people (men, mostly) out there, and it isn't typically hard to understand what they want. A large percentage wants any type of human connection, another wants to just get off, the small percentage may be questioning their sexuality and needs a chat, but doesn't know where to turn to really, so they go down the porn rabbit hole, but what all of them as humans have in common is that they want to feel like they're worth something, like they matter to someone.

That is, they want it to be about them, and to try and see you as a potential "something" in their life, and to basically see whether or not you're someone who will re-ignite something inside of them. To fantasize about you.

One of the reason why solo cam girls are the most successful is because of the fact that they too are seemingly lonely, and are always there to chat, and just shoot the shit with the guys. The pictures and the videos are taken by them, and mostly, they are their own makeup artist, choreographer, photo and video editor, etc, etc.

Those guys have no one to feel threatened by (other than maybe other John's, but they don't usually feel threatened by them, especially if they tip more, etc), and in a short while, they find themselves attached to the said girls.

Obviously, the reason why I'm mentioning this is because of how personal it can become, and the fact that it's the going to be lots of $$$; so even though the hustle would be hard to pull off at times (you can't make them feel alienated, or like you're forcing yourself to talk to them, etc) because you have to have a very engaging personality, and learn to read the social cues, and basically just "work" them all the time, and I know this sounds dehumanizing, but I'm saying it in the nicest way possible.

They know that they are the John's, but they will always come back and spend more because of what you're selling is something that they can't get elsewhere, even if they offered to pay more.

Basically, the too long didn't read version is to just create a persona; it can be an easy-to-remember alias that you can use across all social media, sanitize it vigilantly and keep it mysterious enough to want to get to know you, and position yourself on the Internets as a companion, and someone to whom you can turn to for a naughty chat, to get off (whether it be by phone, video call or pre-recorded/custom material) or to simply spend some quality time together, and show to them that the internet doesn't have to be as impersonal as it is, and that it doesn't have to be just a bunch of thumbnails and a "Buy Now" button, but that you have to try harder, and find out what the door unlocks...

I don't know, it would definitely be the hardest approach, but I see it like properly valuing yourself, and not limiting yourself to having to just show a bunch of thumbnails of yourself and provocative tweets that 99.9% of others end up doing... there should be an aura of mystique about it, and we shouldn't sell ourselves short, especially if we don't have to... and I don't think we're quite there until we're on the streets, doing crack.
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Old 05-26-2022, 03:48 PM   #3
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Old 05-26-2022, 11:06 PM   #4
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feeding off what Wautier said, the most popular (aka high sales) site on PornCMS for years is a solo model who markets herself as a virtual girlfriend. she even got an extra cellphone for VIP members to text her anytime.

she posts a video and photo set every day, so be prepared to work if you want to build a site that makes a lot of money. the rewards are substantial tho - the primary one is not having to work at a "job".

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Old 05-27-2022, 03:26 AM   #5
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Let's try to approach it from a different angle, and look at you as the creator who is capable of doing (and is doing) all of those things, so we shouldn't be thinking about whether or not you should focus on one of them, but how to combine them in a seamless way that would help both you and the potential customer.

There are lots of lonely people (men, mostly) out there, and it isn't typically hard to understand what they want. A large percentage wants any type of human connection, another wants to just get off, the small percentage may be questioning their sexuality and needs a chat, but doesn't know where to turn to really, so they go down the porn rabbit hole, but what all of them as humans have in common is that they want to feel like they're worth something, like they matter to someone.

That is, they want it to be about them, and to try and see you as a potential "something" in their life, and to basically see whether or not you're someone who will re-ignite something inside of them. To fantasize about you.

One of the reason why solo cam girls are the most successful is because of the fact that they too are seemingly lonely, and are always there to chat, and just shoot the shit with the guys. The pictures and the videos are taken by them, and mostly, they are their own makeup artist, choreographer, photo and video editor, etc, etc.

Those guys have no one to feel threatened by (other than maybe other John's, but they don't usually feel threatened by them, especially if they tip more, etc), and in a short while, they find themselves attached to the said girls.

Obviously, the reason why I'm mentioning this is because of how personal it can become, and the fact that it's the going to be lots of $$$; so even though the hustle would be hard to pull off at times (you can't make them feel alienated, or like you're forcing yourself to talk to them, etc) because you have to have a very engaging personality, and learn to read the social cues, and basically just "work" them all the time, and I know this sounds dehumanizing, but I'm saying it in the nicest way possible.

They know that they are the John's, but they will always come back and spend more because of what you're selling is something that they can't get elsewhere, even if they offered to pay more.

Basically, the too long didn't read version is to just create a persona; it can be an easy-to-remember alias that you can use across all social media, sanitize it vigilantly and keep it mysterious enough to want to get to know you, and position yourself on the Internets as a companion, and someone to whom you can turn to for a naughty chat, to get off (whether it be by phone, video call or pre-recorded/custom material) or to simply spend some quality time together, and show to them that the internet doesn't have to be as impersonal as it is, and that it doesn't have to be just a bunch of thumbnails and a "Buy Now" button, but that you have to try harder, and find out what the door unlocks...

I don't know, it would definitely be the hardest approach, but I see it like properly valuing yourself, and not limiting yourself to having to just show a bunch of thumbnails of yourself and provocative tweets that 99.9% of others end up doing... there should be an aura of mystique about it, and we shouldn't sell ourselves short, especially if we don't have to... and I don't think we're quite there until we're on the streets, doing crack.
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Old 05-27-2022, 03:35 AM   #6
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Let's try to approach it from a different angle, and look at you as the creator who is capable of doing (and is doing) all of those things, so we shouldn't be thinking about whether or not you should focus on one of them, but how to combine them in a seamless way that would help both you and the potential customer.

There are lots of lonely people (men, mostly) out there, and it isn't typically hard to understand what they want. A large percentage wants any type of human connection, another wants to just get off, the small percentage may be questioning their sexuality and needs a chat, but doesn't know where to turn to really, so they go down the porn rabbit hole, but what all of them as humans have in common is that they want to feel like they're worth something, like they matter to someone.

That is, they want it to be about them, and to try and see you as a potential "something" in their life, and to basically see whether or not you're someone who will re-ignite something inside of them. To fantasize about you.

One of the reason why solo cam girls are the most successful is because of the fact that they too are seemingly lonely, and are always there to chat, and just shoot the shit with the guys. The pictures and the videos are taken by them, and mostly, they are their own makeup artist, choreographer, photo and video editor, etc, etc.

Those guys have no one to feel threatened by (other than maybe other John's, but they don't usually feel threatened by them, especially if they tip more, etc), and in a short while, they find themselves attached to the said girls.

Obviously, the reason why I'm mentioning this is because of how personal it can become, and the fact that it's the going to be lots of $$$; so even though the hustle would be hard to pull off at times (you can't make them feel alienated, or like you're forcing yourself to talk to them, etc) because you have to have a very engaging personality, and learn to read the social cues, and basically just "work" them all the time, and I know this sounds dehumanizing, but I'm saying it in the nicest way possible.

They know that they are the John's, but they will always come back and spend more because of what you're selling is something that they can't get elsewhere, even if they offered to pay more.

Basically, the too long didn't read version is to just create a persona; it can be an easy-to-remember alias that you can use across all social media, sanitize it vigilantly and keep it mysterious enough to want to get to know you, and position yourself on the Internets as a companion, and someone to whom you can turn to for a naughty chat, to get off (whether it be by phone, video call or pre-recorded/custom material) or to simply spend some quality time together, and show to them that the internet doesn't have to be as impersonal as it is, and that it doesn't have to be just a bunch of thumbnails and a "Buy Now" button, but that you have to try harder, and find out what the door unlocks...

I don't know, it would definitely be the hardest approach, but I see it like properly valuing yourself, and not limiting yourself to having to just show a bunch of thumbnails of yourself and provocative tweets that 99.9% of others end up doing... there should be an aura of mystique about it, and we shouldn't sell ourselves short, especially if we don't have to... and I don't think we're quite there until we're on the streets, doing crack.

Ya know you've been posting a lot of helpful, useful, insightful stuff lately...
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Old 05-27-2022, 04:15 AM   #7
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I'm currently a PSO. I have been since January, been selling content since 2019. Currently I offer phone sex, sexting, private cam and I make content including pics, vids, and erotica.

I want to either make a sexting/chat website or a website for erotica, or potentially a phone sex website, but that one is not my first choice for a couple reasons. How do I figure out the potential for these sites? I feel like it matters because if they're is no or little demand, that affects how much I invest in them.

Which is another point. How much money do you recommend having before you start this? It's not a problem, but I have absolutely no clue whether its 1-2k or 10k haha.

Also, is there anything else I should know before I start, do you recommend anything specific?
What interests you most?

It does not matter too much what makes most profit in one area or not. If you have no interest in it, then you wont have the same interest, and it will show.

One reason why one will make money in x and another will not in x, is because that person has an interest in it.

This is not just adult, but any business.

Listen to many shows about business, and often the reason a person has made money, is because he/she/they have a big love for what they are doing.

So ask yourself, what interests you the most, then, be the best at doing it.
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Old 05-27-2022, 05:45 AM   #8
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Old 05-27-2022, 08:16 AM   #9
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feeding off what Wautier said, the most popular (aka high sales) site on PornCMS for years is a solo model who markets herself as a virtual girlfriend. she even got an extra cellphone for VIP members to text her anytime.

she posts a video and photo set every day, so be prepared to work if you want to build a site that makes a lot of money. the rewards are substantial tho - the primary one is not having to work at a "job".

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Lol yeah right, pure bullshit. Might as well say "hey everyone, look at me, here I am buy my shitty cms!!"

No one wants your dumb ass cms in 2022.

"Those who can't, teach.."

Sit on that for a while (like the collection of dildos that are in your closet).

You can't cut it producing income with sales and marketing so you rely on a antiquated cms to get you through.
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Old 05-27-2022, 10:22 PM   #10
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Lol yeah right, pure bullshit. Might as well say "hey everyone, look at me, here I am buy my shitty cms!!"

No one wants your dumb ass cms in 2022.

"Those who can't, teach.."

Sit on that for a while (like the collection of dildos that are in your closet).

You can't cut it producing income with sales and marketing so you rely on a antiquated cms to get you through.
poor little dbag who can't cut it in this industry anymore

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You will make more growing your following and making use of all the existing platforms out there than you will building a new platform from scratch.
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