Tech US Court Orders Every ISP in the United States to Block Illegal Streaming Sites

[seeric]

https://torrentfreak.com/us-court-or...-sites-220502/

Been waiting for at least 15 years to post this.

[baddog]

Interesting. Welcome back.

[Major (Tom)]

Which sites were blocked?

[AmeliaG]

Much as, being a content creator, I'm not a fan of piracy, this is going to be nightmarish for free speech.

[CurrentlySober]

Been that way in the UK for years... Virtually all pirate sites blocked at ISP level.

Doesn't make a blind bit of difference though unfortunately.

Article from over ten years ago when they did it.
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...pyright%20laws.

[zijlstravideo]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Been that way in the UK for years... Virtually all pirate sites blocked at ISP level.

Same here in the Netherlands.

I wonder how much this helps though, since the owners just seem to hop onto a new domain whenever their website gets blocked again.

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Much as, being a content creator, I'm not a fan of piracy, this is going to be nightmarish for free speech.

Yea, these things always slippery slope. It will turn into “disinformation” soon and have nothing to do with piracy.

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by zijlstravideo

Same here in the Netherlands.

I wonder how much this helps though, since the owners just seem to hop onto a new domain whenever their website gets blocked again.

The netherlands have some of the worst pro piracy laws. It stems back to the dutch east indie company and the slave trade.

[celandina]

Way to go.. Kill pirates and their helpers

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by celandina

Way to go.. Kill pirates and their helpers

Any action against piracy is better than no action.

[Pad]

yawn

what are they going to block next?

get a expressvpn router

[TaiGhost]

Happy to see it. Not sure if vps are the key anymore since internet entities always seem to know real country ips these days.

[mechanicvirus]

This is either good or bad, it's a thing. It will be a thing, good... or bad..neutral maybe?

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Any action against piracy is better than no action.

Does it not 'advertise' piracy though?

Let me explain what I mean. Someone who is 'into' piracy as an 'end user' already thinks 'Why Pay?' I know where to get it for free... They know plenty of active torrent sites and have the necessary programs installed and know how to use them... They are not gonna stop.

However, a 'Non Pirate' though, does not think that. If they want it, they pay for it. Not cause its 'The Right Thing' to do, but because they don't really understand how to get it for free and have no real reason to educate themselves on site URLs and what torrents are etc etc...

Piracy is something they have heard about, but it's something that other people do, not them...

Suddenly, it's all over the news that this site and that site and these sites etc, are no longer allowed to be accessed at ISP level, and the reason for that is that they have the latest spiderman film, the latest music etc all available for free... Infact, SO MANY PEOPLE ARE GETTING EVERYTHING FOR FREE, that the Government have had to step in...

Its kinda like advertising that piracy is simple, easy and actually works. The non pirate is now fully aware of where to go and how to do it - Be it by using a 'torrent' which he is now aware of, or by simply using one of the 'IPTV Streaming Services' on a firestick, which again, have just been advertised to him, by the fact that they are banning them...

What i mean, is that a pirate isnt gonna stop over this, but more potential pirates will now have more information about how to pirate, and where to find stuff...

It's not ideal, and while I would normally agree, 'some action is better than no action' I just feel in this case, that the 'action; will encourage and promote it to new users, who would not have bothered otherwise...

Just my opinion of course... Hope I am wrong...

[JustBiz]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Does it not 'advertise' piracy though?

Let me explain what I mean. Someone who is 'into' piracy as an 'end user' already thinks 'Why Pay?' I know where to get it for free... They know plenty of active torrent sites and have the necessary programs installed and know how to use them... They are not gonna stop.

However, a 'Non Pirate' though, does not think that. If they want it, they pay for it. Not cause its 'The Right Thing' to do, but because they don't really understand how to get it for free and have no real reason to educate themselves on site URLs and what torrents are etc etc...

Piracy is something they have heard about, but it's something that other people do, not them...

Suddenly, it's all over the news that this site and that site and these sites etc, are no longer allowed to be accessed at ISP level, and the reason for that is that they have the latest spiderman film, the latest music etc all available for free... Infact, SO MANY PEOPLE ARE GETTING EVERYTHING FOR FREE, that the Government have had to step in...

Its kinda like advertising that piracy is simple, easy and actually works. The non pirate is now fully aware of where to go and how to do it - Be it by using a 'torrent' which he is now aware of, or by simply using one of the 'IPTV Streaming Services' on a firestick, which again, have just been advertised to him, by the fact that they are banning them...

What i mean, is that a pirate isnt gonna stop over this, but more potential pirates will now have more information about how to pirate, and where to find stuff...

It's not ideal, and while I would normally agree, 'some action is better than no action' I just feel in this case, that the 'action; will encourage and promote it to new users, who would not have bothered otherwise...

Just my opinion of course... Hope I am wrong...

Decent points. Well argued.

This post lacks only in one area. It starts with "P" and ends with "O" ... and it's not Poost Office. ;=)

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Does it not 'advertise' piracy though?
Hope I am wrong...

So I visit the site that's being 'Advertised' as one of the biggest that they are going to ban... A site that I had NEVER EVEN HEARD WHISPERS ABOUT...

& Directly on the front page it reads:

We're here to stay!
The site servers are not based in the United States and are located in a variety of locations in different countries.
The series' cyber experts have been preparing for any scenario in advance, right from the start of the trial in the United States.
We thank all our viewers for the much support, we draw from you motivation to continue the site activity. A series site will continue to be the No. 1 direct viewing site in Israel (and now probably also in the United States)

Damned if you do, and damned if you don't...

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by celandina

Way to go.. Kill pirates and their helpers

[SekobA]

There is no site blocked

[brassmonkey]

you will give up your privacy for this???? next it will be you can't look at naked people... just look at bible verses

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

you will give up your privacy for this???? next it will be you can't look at naked people... just look at bible verses

Yep, this.

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Does it not 'advertise' piracy though?

Let me explain what I mean. Someone who is 'into' piracy as an 'end user' already thinks 'Why Pay?' I know where to get it for free... They know plenty of active torrent sites and have the necessary programs installed and know how to use them... They are not gonna stop.

However, a 'Non Pirate' though, does not think that. If they want it, they pay for it. Not cause its 'The Right Thing' to do, but because they don't really understand how to get it for free and have no real reason to educate themselves on site URLs and what torrents are etc etc...

Piracy is something they have heard about, but it's something that other people do, not them...

Suddenly, it's all over the news that this site and that site and these sites etc, are no longer allowed to be accessed at ISP level, and the reason for that is that they have the latest spiderman film, the latest music etc all available for free... Infact, SO MANY PEOPLE ARE GETTING EVERYTHING FOR FREE, that the Government have had to step in...

Its kinda like advertising that piracy is simple, easy and actually works. The non pirate is now fully aware of where to go and how to do it - Be it by using a 'torrent' which he is now aware of, or by simply using one of the 'IPTV Streaming Services' on a firestick, which again, have just been advertised to him, by the fact that they are banning them...

What i mean, is that a pirate isnt gonna stop over this, but more potential pirates will now have more information about how to pirate, and where to find stuff...

It's not ideal, and while I would normally agree, 'some action is better than no action' I just feel in this case, that the 'action; will encourage and promote it to new users, who would not have bothered otherwise...

Just my opinion of course... Hope I am wrong...

And also this. So it endangers basic rights while nor solving the problem.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

And also this. So it endangers basic rights while nor solving the problem.

Do you have a better solution to solve the problem?

Basic rights are not here to protect criminals.

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Do you have a better solution to solve the problem?

Basic rights are not here to protect criminals.

Simply doing something, if the something is both ineffective and dangerous, is not helping.



Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
--Benjamin Franklin

He who gives his freedom for safety gets none of them.
--Thomas Jefferson

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Do you have a better solution to solve the problem?

Basic rights are not here to protect criminals.

yes! start charging advertisers with felonies that purchase ads! you get two strikes the 3rd someone gets raped by bubba

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Simply doing something, if the something is both ineffective and dangerous, is not helping.

It's an indvidual court order based on a judgement they can appeal (if those poor thieves feel butthurt). It serves both as a measure and a gesture - if you are thieving expect consequences. Hopefully a precedent for the future.

Limiting traffic to these sites means limiting their income - it's fully legitimate. Of course it doesn't solve the problem just like anti-drug laws don't solve the problem. Fines for breaking the speed limit don't lead to drivers not speeding... are those against the basic freedoms too i.e. the freedom of movement?

If there is nothing done, we are creating an impression that online piracy is ignored, accepted and untouchable. Which encourages more people to commit it or support it.