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05-27-2022, 11:33 PM | #51 |
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05-27-2022, 11:53 PM | #52 |
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05-28-2022, 06:45 AM | #53 |
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Come on man, if I upload some more free videos to tubes and continue to convert at 1 in 10,000 I'll make as much as a mediocre OnlyFans model does per day.
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05-28-2022, 06:46 AM | #54 |
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Let me give you some inconvenient, this is a myth. Terrible OF models make more than the industry would ever pay them. Ugly girls, lazy girls, etc. If you have to tell yourself "but most don't try!" to justify laps being run around you it's really time to find a new argument.
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05-28-2022, 09:47 AM | #55 | |
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05-28-2022, 10:09 AM | #56 | ||
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Oh right - because they make money. Still. Today. In 2022. And beyond... Quote:
I started my little empire with solo girls so I know more about dealing with models and their work ethic than you probably do. Trying to get a group of models together for a single day's shoot is like herding cats. Trying to get them to send you new content it would take them five minutes to create is like pulling teeth. Nope sorry, the overwhelming majority of OF (and cam) models are lazy fucks who drop out, get a Sugar Daddy, party too much, are low level intelligent, get pregnant, overdose, become a stripper/escort, marry a beta cuck...on and on. FLAKY.
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05-28-2022, 11:03 AM | #57 | |
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You are egotistical about your ability to sell some joins on outdated paysites but you can sell anything. Our mainstream items are sold at triple the cost on the same platforms we can buy them on because we know how to market. The girls don't need you, they don't want you and OF is saturated as a brand. It's in songs, tv shows, movies and my grandma knows what it is. Just think, you could have stuck all your models on OF at 10% of their earnings and you'd make more than you do now. Sad. |
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05-28-2022, 11:21 AM | #58 | |
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My point is about 8% of OF models are making what you would consider "bank". The rest? Poor-to-middling earnings. I interact with many, many models who have OF profiles and every single one complain about their (lack of) earnings, how much (consistent) work it takes to feed the members, how bored/tired they are of never-ending social media posts to get 1 or 2 $3.99 signups....come on man you are not talking to a noob here. LOL This entire argument reminds of me the "there is no money in porn anymore" argument from around 10 years ago (about when I started). You know, the Golden Days are over, too much free stuff on tubes, all the money has shifted to cams and dating, paysites are dead... I could not even begin to count the number of new PROFITABLE paysites that have opened (and continue to this day) over the past decade. But hey carry on trying to convince yourself - of what I'm not sure because you and the OP are not profiting from OF (or paysites) so WTFE.
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05-28-2022, 01:05 PM | #59 |
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05-28-2022, 02:16 PM | #60 |
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05-28-2022, 05:20 PM | #62 |
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05-28-2022, 06:23 PM | #63 |
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05-28-2022, 06:53 PM | #64 | |
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Well said. I mean, the ecosystem has changed, but it has not been eradicated, just, ya know, evolved. |
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05-29-2022, 03:53 AM | #65 |
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Assumptions? I've been doing this since the 90's and specialized in building out personal profiles / sites / online personas. You are personally butthurt that OF models are running laps around you because "models are dumb and lazy!"
We all know this, dunce. Which is why it's hilarious that you think your busted collection is successful because some of your models are too lazy to.... do what they do already online? Are you coaching them or something because making a few posts per day that don't even have to make sense is a far cry from "they're tired of posting to social media all the time!!!" It's bullshit, we all know it's bullshit and that a few paysite owners will come in here swinging on the same hope that made them avoid tube sites for 10 years and build new paysites in 2022 is meaningless because you are still getting lapped. And that's talking about individual onlyfans models, we haven't even touched how hard OF itself is lapping you. Somehow they got all those lazy, coked up, flaky models you hate so much to collectively generate dump trucks full of cash every single day. And to think, you had all of the tools necessary to do the same thing and decided to build recurring paysites instead. |
05-29-2022, 07:14 AM | #66 | |
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https://www.axios.com/2021/08/19/onl...stors-struggle How many girls made $50k plus a year in the "good old days"? I know we shot approx 100-150 girls a year over the course of 20 years and maybe 5% of them made more than that. If even. People still underestimate the size and relevance of OF
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05-29-2022, 07:20 AM | #67 | |
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But again this is exactly like comparing cam girls revenue to paysite models' revenue. You know it's a different business model, right? Get paid for a shoot where WE own the content vs. an OF amateur controlling her own content? Apples and oranges sorry. And for the final time (in this thread) since no one can answer this simple question: WHY DO COMPANIES KEEP OPENING BRAND NEW PAYSITES? Hmm? Oh right, because paysites produce revenue for years and years, even when not updated, vs. OF models who have next to zero longevity.
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05-29-2022, 07:33 AM | #68 | |
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So yeah everyone should close their paysites immediately and go home. All Content Partners on tube sites should delete their accounts and go home. OnlyFans models win. LOL Please people!!
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05-29-2022, 07:49 AM | #69 |
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05-29-2022, 07:58 AM | #70 |
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Now the question is how many of those sell porn?
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05-29-2022, 11:53 AM | #71 | |
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your replies at least have nothing to do with what I said
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An Only Fans model is (in theory) her own boss. Now is she a good employee or a lazy, flaky one as I maintain? So you cannot compare a work-for-hire porn shoot vs. an amateur model who runs her own Only Fans account (or paysite). The 5% you mention are models who went on to run their own site, become a contract girl or do custom shoots on the side. I bet if OF were around then the same 5% would do well on OF while the rest would not. In comes down to drive and work ethic, like most things in life. So, in the end, the percentages are similar (your 5% vs. my 8%). Lastly, 50k a year is only $1,000 a week. That is not a big deal. That is almost minimum wage here in the US. LOL Funny thing is, no one in this thread (I think?) is making money off of OF models so why are people defending it so strongly? Seems odd to me. Oh well, carry on.
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05-29-2022, 06:31 PM | #73 | |
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The nice thing about Adult in 2022 is that it's not really an either/or kind of thing anymore but rather a model can now have OF and a paysite, tube profile, clips store, etc. Why limit yourself to one revenue stream when you can take advantage of many that are out there.
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05-30-2022, 10:59 AM | #74 | |
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Oh look, $19.99 per month, almost like a paysite. "The $1 million per month that Trisha Paytas was making from OnlyFans accounts for a portion of their net worth, and doesn’t include their various other projects, including their appearances on Frenemies. " This ugly, washed up hag is more successful than a stable of washed up hags in a network (cough cough) combined. SAD |
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You see, becaue of the interaction on OF (one of its' beggest draws) there is an expectation of interaction (duh). But it's a double-edge sword because when the model gets tired, pregnant, married, etc etc the interaction dwindles and dies. With a paysite (more niche than a 'solo girl' site per se) this isn't the case (tho interaction is best with a paysite too, if you can get it from the model). Anyway there is no money in porn, right?
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Maybe the OP should start an OF rival and then he will calm down a bit?
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06-07-2022, 09:50 AM | #81 |
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH TGPs are killing the industry
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MGPs are killing the industry AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Cross Sales are killing the industry AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Tubes are killing the industry Holy Fuck this industry has been dying for the last 25 years, same dumb asses are screaming, same people are still making tons
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but still, my personal experience and 2 cents: OF pays 90%? or 95%? I don´t know exactly but surely 85% or over.. without any hassle, with manual requests (by a click) or just automatic payments. No refunds, no complex papers to sign - send - wait for days or weeks - send again like opening up big industry leaders Epoch or CCBill.. I don´t mention VISA´s and Mastercard´s separate 500 USD per year fees (On OF there are no fees). OF makes everything on the fly, so easy for customers, users but also for models to use.. to upload, to share, to answer. Very simple interface, very easy to use, user friendly and working all the times, no downtime, no slowness.. On ManyVids for example it´s not easy to upload multi files. It´s possible but their servers are slow. Very slow that the files stuck. Hosting is a pain in the ass. Very expensive. VERY EXPENSIVE. VERY.. you got my point. No hosting fees never ever with OF. Period. Free marketing from OF, no conversation scripts, no extra software to edit etc or upload or use. Everything and whatever you need is simply there. As a brand it´s world class well-known already. When you see a girl on TikTok or Instagram, people ask her OF.. not paysite. Many people also not look for porn but, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT, they look for interactivity with the model, not directly porn videos of her on a paysite. This is this generation. As we don´t have DVD´s anymore, or Playboy Penthouse paper magazines around to look for, OF is here to stay for a while like they did, until another one comes to offer another way to reach what people demand. |
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Again people, you can make money on a lot of dying shit but that don't mean it's "alive and well" or you'd all be selling porn VHS tapes for $200 each. |
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you can view posts or media i have several clients with libraries of over 5,000 videos. i have clients selling "network passes" and many with upsells to their other paysites. how do upsells work on OF? OF is not the best solution for every producer. maybe for a cam model with 200 videos. #
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We told them to fuck off when they demanded that shit. You are supposed to be the legal Custodian Of Records. And models that work for you should feel secure that their personal information isn't gonna be handed to some morons in England running Only Fans that you don't even know. That 2257 stuff is intended for the Feds eyes only if they were ever to raid you. Wow. I can't believe that people actually handed over that type of personal info to faceless, nameless people on the internet. |
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In the beginning we paid by the gigabyte. Our hosting bills were enormous. These days? Hosting costs are so low as to be negligible. And there is no pain in the ass at all. Nothing like it used to be. Just sayin'... hosting is definitely not an issue for anyone that wants it or needs it in 2022. |
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Absolutely. I literally wake up every day and make a list of things I'm grateful for.
I can't do now precisely what worked in 1992 and it is not that I never get nostalgic or frustrated. But I do believe where there is a will, there is almost always a way. OnlyFans has definitely fucked with the ecosystem, but so did the consolidation and then spectacular implosion in the late nineties of all the indie magazine distributors. DC Comics bought up the cool comic book distro and a bunch of key distro folks just went under without paying. It sucked so much that I had to start publishing on the freaking internet. The internet! All entrepreneurship requires pivots. It's just the nature of it. |
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I just received a $1k check from CCBill from my blog network.... Which is all of six blogs at this point. So no. The industry is fine.
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