Baltimore

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KrisKross

You're so edgy and cool!

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blackmonsters

Yo mamma!

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Publisher Bucks

If you believe every post on the message boards over the last 30 years, the industry has been dead since the late 90's

Whats that saying... 'Adapt or die'

Some of us adapted, some of us died, but the industry is still here and has been since the dawn of mankind.

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Baltimore

nah, this is different.

legit industry killing game changer.

own it.

You all better start looking for new jobs.

Retiree

Onlyfans is a part of the industry...Duh.

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Scott McD

Even escorts don't have to do escorting anymore because there is so much more to be made with OnlyFans lol...

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Baltimore

so true it empowered whores with the ability to make money it took some of us decades or years to make, onlyfans literally wiped out what was left of the affiliate model and changed the game, made it so any hoe with a smart phone can snap a few pics, upload, and get her army of simps to spend $

it's fucking insane

what about 2257 and all of that shit??? Of models often upload content of other people on their pages, how does 2257 and all of that come into play?

All trolling and kidding aside, but is OF going to get spanked hard by the feds one day?

One can ONLY hope!

Baltimore

Nah, they are a whole new industry that consumed ours and shit it out of their turd cutters. (inb4 that weirdo poo fuck from the uk)

Baltimore

sheeeeeeeeeeit

Baltimore

All kidding and trolling aside, anyone wanna touch tips tho? (askin 4 a friend)

TFT (tip for tip)

Baltimore

yo my nigga my ancestral home is glasgow G, my great great grand niggas imported themselves from there to baltimore like 200 year ago you heard me family

we them scottish baltimore niggas (fo li)

plsureking

OF grew the paysite industry, they didn't kill it.

they brought millions of models into the industry. they got tens of millions of freeloaders to open their wallets.

OF is a marketplace. its poorly designed and impersonal. all these models still want their own site, where they own the content rights and members, and they want to earn more per member.

OF payouts aren't great, and they can lock a model out at any time for all sorts of reasons. that puts a model out of business in an instant. just like cam models, OF models need to be securing their business with their own paysite (as well as selling on other marketplaces).

maybe OF is bad for tube owners, but its been great for the paysite business. PornCMS gets new site owner accounts every week.

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Well said.

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lock

Yes and they were good old days so why did you join since hey days over?

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PorcoRosso

OF is growing the models marketplace by empowering them, teaching them marketing... it's educating our users in the sense that now they're ok to pay for (a special type of) porn and not always get it for free.
OF is hiding porn behind loginwalls and paywalls which pleases regulators and censors...

Making the market bigger and more educated is only great news.

And yes OF is a marketplace, there's for now a good space for models to be profitable but competition is getting fiercer every day... I think we all witness the drastic improvement of quality that's being produced by models based in Tier 2 and Tier 3 countries... Imho that's going to become a game changer for models and it will push everyone up into quality content production, and quality relationship creations.


We can foresee a future with more legal, paid porn... and more customers of it... what else could we dream of ? There won't be better opportunities, so go get it ;)

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DVTimes

The key is to make better content than models do on onlyfans.

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LouiseLloyd

What about when the inevitable happens and Onlyfans ditch adult?

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Baltimore

You mean welcome back? I am the founder of the PBBC.

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Baltimore

You're all full of shit, OF has done nothing but saturate traffic generation methods, saturate forms of monetization and create millions of competitors.

DVTimes

Or they close due to xy or z.

There are other platforms such as fancentro.

But also such as patreon would make a fortune, and there was talk of twitter offering a private content thing too.

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Baltimore

No one answered this question - how is it possible that anyone can signup with of, upload content of their sex partners, and not have 2257's signed and legal documentation? Furthermore, pardon my potential ignorance on the subject but I have always been under the impression that there is only one state in the US where it is legal to film pornography (California).

Baltimore

I can't believe people are bringing up "empowering models" as a point, are you serious? Yes they are empowered so much that they no longer need any of us!

LouiseLloyd

You need to provide ID and model release all other participants in your content, exactly like cam sites.

The only way around the above is by the model in your content already possessing a verified creator account then you can tag them, so that if the poster does not have permission of the model they will be made aware and take the appropriate action.

Onlyfans periodically review all accounts and will remove breaching content and request third party model realise and ID of any participants they see in your content, otherwise it gets deleted within 24 hours.

Thats my experience and that was even after I had supplied all participants ID and model releases, which would lead me to believe they are overly cautious.

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DVTimes

Onlyfans is more a problem for affiliates, simply because they cannot (as yet) promote Onlyfans, and what would the point be, when most models can promote themselves with ease using such as Twitter, and so on.

The big problem, is now some Onlyfans models want to be exclusive to Onlyfans and are trying to get removed from paysites.

The other problem for Onlyfans models is that they are attacking each other, as they see less fans joining them, and they want less Onlyfans models competition.

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DVTimes

Onlyfans is doing what webcam sites should have done a long time ago.

If webcam sites ages ago had let models sell pics and vids the way Onlyfans does, then Onlyfans would probably never taken off.

I have said for ages, that when a model does a webcam show, they should have offered an option to have the shows saved and purchased by fans. This way models could have made money while not being online.

Onlyfans meant models could make money when they are offline.

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DVTimes

What is PBBC?

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DVTimes

I suspect we will see lots of sites full of free (stolen/pirated) content from Onlyfans to be honest.

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Cameltoepro

I agree.....100%

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DVTimes

No.

The point of Onlyfans is that it is personal.

People join to follow and contact people they are fans of.

A lot of Onlyfans top models hire people to chat to the fans (pretending to be them).

Its not the content people are after always, a lot is the contact.

They feel closer to the people they are fans of.

Paysites distance fans as the content is often not shot by the model, and often the model has no say in what is shot.

Fans feel like they are paying the model directly, rather than just give money to some website.

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CurrentlySober

Accurate statement in regards to my personal situation...

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The Porn Nerd

Models are models and it doesn't matter if they are doing OnlyFans, cam shows, Clips4Sale or porn shoots. They are (mostly) flaky, lazy whores who want good times and Sugar Daddies to take care of them so they can party, travel, get tattooes and drink champagne.

Work??? What the fuck is that??? I show up, you pay me, I party.

So this means girls will always need a guide, a mentor, someone to run their business after they get bored, distracted, their period....lol OnlyFans is work, like anything else, but with paysites you work once then get paid endlessly. Which would you prefer? I look at OF as a recruitment platform!

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Baltimore

When they start earning real money, and learning how to chat/sext/generate their own traffic - they stop being lazy whores hence the whole point of this thread - of destroying the business for many people.

The world is ending, for real this time.

The game has changed, for good. Affiliates are no longer needed, paysites are no longer trusted. OF is a household name and brand, customers prefer to spend their money there over our unknown, and untrusted products, the list is endless.

All the naysayers in this thread show me one thing - you are not in the same part of the game that I am.

When I speak of traffic generation, I'm not talking about tube submissions, media buys, etc. I'm talking about manipulating popular apps with automation to generate valuable organic traffic.

It was bad enough before we had to start competing with all of India, etc. Now these dumb ass thots realize the power of spamming, and by doing so, have forced popular apps to lock down, deter and kill methods that have existed peacefully since 2014.

I understand that nothing is static in marketing and things are constantly dynamic however I can see a DIRECT correlation between the pandemic, rise of onlyfans and the storm it caused by making so many people hard up and in need. Said storm created an atmosphere where many were willing to do things that they have never done before (porn) thus resulting in the rise of onlyfans and destruction of my methods.

So as a marketer who dabbles on the fine line of grayhat traffic, I tell you that OF creating 5 million "instant model/marketers/porn content promoters" has absolutely fucked many aspects of my methods of monetization.

I never was mad at any big change, I always was fluid and was adapting but this shit has me bitter to the point where I'm going to do one more big year in adult and say deuces.

Baltimore

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MakeMeGrrrrowl

Content only matters if it gets seen.

SAMANTAmax

No hard feelings

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Baltimore

same, and that goes to anyone here. I like to troll a lot, but getting too old for this shit.

I do hate OF though heh.

I appreciate the responses and input.

Also, really the entire thread is me projecting, talking to myself in the title. :kissy face emoji:

Baltimore

This will likely be the last time Cutty ever graces this forum.

plsureking

just a whiny failure blaming OF because you can't figure out how to adapt.

meanwhile you are trying to preach to a board of people who DID adapt and DO still make money in this "dead" industry. your methods and skills are dead. that is YOUR problem.

you can't hack your way to profits anymore? stfu and learn new skills. a lot of those people in that 2016 AVN gallery are still banking in adult. Joey Gabra is in the first fucking picture!

no offense its gfy

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ianmoone332000

Probably still looks the exact same to be honest

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Baltimore

Okay, the next time you see me at a show, say it all to my face. I have posted my pic in this thread. It's hilarious being called a failure by someone with a website that looks like the last update to the frontend was 2008. From someone who is still pushing a "porn" content management system, in 2022, when anyone with a phone can snap a pic and have a instant platform on sites like OF.

Baltimore

Pretty damn cool! I will go one day before I die. I am a "Mc".

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The Porn Nerd

Not enough of them turn into real business people who run their OF as a real business. A few superstars make bank yes but the vast majority get bored, drop out, etc. Look at cam girls for confirmation.

Also: I always laugh when people say paysites are dead. I respond with this inconvenient truth that usually either shuts people up or makes them shrug their shoulders because they don't have a good answer. Ready? Here it is:

If paysites are dead why do companies keep launching new ones?

I just got an email THIS WEEK from Nubiles announcing the launch of a brand-new MILF network of paysites. An entire network! Yah paysites are dead and OF girls will replace us all.

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RyuLion

xbiz Miami was packaged with over 300 independent cam models and platform creators.
Also Model management companies.
There were so many, I was doing business while I was in line to get my badge.
I will create my own thread with more details..

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plsureking

what will you be doing at a show? begging for work? such a tough guy...

yea my site sells, so who cares about your opinion? at least i'm still in business and its been growing steadily since 2007. what are you selling in this industry other than bottles of tears?



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Baltimore

I don't work for other people, you incel. Again, I am an actual marketer that goes and and DOES, not a drop out who copped out to TEACHING (selling scripts, services etc.).

Show me some sales stats from offers you are converting in 2022, I'm rocking $1-$2 epc and can generate $1k a day in sales from organic traffic.

If you could do that you would not be reliant on a piece of shit content management system that looks like it's straight out of the 90's you fucking moron.

What will I be doing? I will be calling you out to your face, watching you stutter and look at your feet nervously while you backtrack and say "aw man it's gfy I was just kidding!"

But I doubt your hobbit, bitch ass leaves your mothers basement.

My complaints are about going from 30-50 sales a day to 10 sales a day. (things you have never accomplished).

Also, where were you at all of the vip events I was invited to over the years, never saw you sitting next to billionaires? Never have seen you anywhere, had to ask who you were. My colleagues don't even know about you, meaning, you truly are a nobody in this industry.

Baltimore

Go present an unknown link to 100 potential customers in a sales pitch compared to presenting an onlyfans link to the same customers.

They trust OF. They like OF, they don't want your piece of shit, scam, x-sale infested, shit product any longer.

I am able to read thousands of conversations per day, I have a feel for what the people want from their own mouths, not from sales stats, google analytics, or optimism.

If you read my complaint, which you clearly have not, it's more about the influx of models and "content creators" who have saturated traffic sources by creating 5 million instant competitors.

Baltimore

I never said anything about being tough, but if I ever see your soft, chubby, bitch ass face you are going to feel the fear of God in your heart. If that's how you want it to be, we can rock like that too fat boy.