Is PornHub on the ropes?

[fastball]

It seems they have laid off 70 per cent of their staff and it is not looking good.

Pornhub, the massive pornography site owned and operated by MindGeek, has laid off an unknown number of staffers, according to social media posts.

A rep for MindGeek declined to specify the number of employees who have been pink-slipped.

The layoffs at MindGeek came as the company said CEO Feras Antoon and COO David Tassillo resigned in a leadership transition was in the works since early this year. Antoon and Tassillo will remain shareholders in MindGeek.

The shakeup at the internet porn giant follows the New Yorker’s publication of an investigative piece last week on MindGeek documenting how Pornhub has hosted sexually explicit nonconsensual videos — including those with children — and that several of the people in those videos spent months trying to get the site to remove the material.

In addition to the two executive departures, MindGeek planned to lay off “a number of its staff, in an attempt to cut costs after suffering revenue declines over the past 18 months following a series of revelations that MindGeek had allowed child sexual abuse material and other nonconsensual videos to be posted on Pornhub,” the Globe and Mail reported Tuesday.

Both Visa and Mastercard have cut off payment processing to MindGeek, according to the Globe and Mail report.

[nikki99]

oh no , oh no .....

[blackmonsters]

The entire tube site concept needs to die out already anyway.
It turned making porn videos into a waste of time.

[TaiGhost]

Good news. Its the beginning of the end for that miserable industry.

[fastball]

Originally Posted by TaiGhost

Good news. Its the beginning of the end for that miserable industry.

Right on, brother.

[plsureking]

here comes another paysite gold rush

question - how do we get their traffic? tubes (aka thieves) basically own every adult keyword on google.

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[TaiGhost]

Originally Posted by plsureking

here comes another paysite gold rush

question - how do we get their traffic? tubes (aka thieves) basically own every adult keyword on google.

#

I wish you were not correct but they even try to own affiliate site names as keywords.

[TaiGhost]

Originally Posted by fastball

Right on, brother.

There will be many more to replace them. I see on this board a guy is making collages of top performing sites content and trying to make a paysite out of it.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by plsureking

here comes another paysite gold rush

question - how do we get their traffic? tubes (aka thieves) basically own every adult keyword on google.

#

If all paysite owners united and removed their content off these tubes and created their own platform where their promo clips would be exclusive, the tubes would lost most of their content and traffic. Now that they all need to verify their uploaders and review uploads the amount of pirated stuff on them dropped a lot and they could not replace the content with "user" uploads (pirated files) - those that they were all built on - since thieves won't give them their personal details. They would have to rely on mostly anonymous videos from amateurs and also their own studios which, of course, would not be enough. This would cause them a big loss of positions on Google for all those paysite KWs they are leeching on.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

The entire tube site concept needs to die out already anyway.
It turned making porn videos into a waste of time.

op that does not mean they are hurting for money.

[DVTimes]

The question I would have is why have so many staff.

However, porhhub is now a brand and if the pornhub tube starts to make huge losses (they may still be making a profit, but I presume running the site is expensive), then I suspect they could easily turn it into a small site, as a sex blog, promoting the sites they have and selling clothes and sex toys (branded with pornhub). Or with a budget, turn pornhub into a free or pay online tv (like Netflix).

It would be interesting to know how much they make from the sites they have.

They could do what some sites have done and turn pornhub into one huge porn site with ALL the content they own.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

If all paysite owners united and removed their content off these tubes and created their own platform where their promo clips would be exclusive.

You have a point, but most do not even do a blog, so they are not likely to do this.

In truth, many put all the eggs in one basket and relied on porntubes for most if not all sales.

One wonders now porn tubes are not all having links to the paysites, if (I suspect they are) pornsites are loosing money.

[TaiGhost]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

If all paysite owners united and removed their content off these tubes and created their own platform where their promo clips would be exclusive, the tubes would lost most of their content and traffic. Now that they all need to verify their uploaders and review uploads the amount of pirated stuff on them dropped a lot and they could not replace the content with "user" uploads (pirated files) - those that they were all built on - since thieves won't give them their personal details. They would have to rely on mostly anonymous videos from amateurs and also their own studios which, of course, would not be enough. This would cause them a big loss of positions on Google for all those paysite KWs they are leeching on.

PLUS 1, Amen!

[fastball]

The simple solution to this mess, is to stop all user generated content. Only contractual content that is vetted for legality should be allowed. I wouldn't shed a tear if every "uploader" crashed and burned.

[djroof]

Pornhub for me is the XXX YouTube. Performers use it for traffic to their OnlyFans accounts ;)

[MaDalton]

You lost me at

Originally Posted by SpicyM

If all paysite owners united ...

[nikki99]

Originally Posted by djroof

Pornhub for me is the XXX YouTube. Performers use it for traffic to their OnlyFans accounts ;)

is this allowed?

[vdbucks]

na na na na,
na na na na,
hey hey hey....

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by fastball

The simple solution to this mess, is to stop all user generated content. Only contractual content that is vetted for legality should be allowed. I wouldn't shed a tear if every "uploader" crashed and burned.

They now require an account verification with ID, just like Xvideos and Xhamster.

[fastball]

Originally Posted by vdbucks

na na na na,
na na na na,
hey hey hey....

Chuck, we finally agree on something.

[fastball]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

They now require an account verification with ID, just like Xvideos and Xhamster.

Why didn't they do that years ago? Like right at the beginning. Oh wait, they wouldn't have got all that free content stolen from those of us who spent money to make it.

[Shoplifter]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

The question I would have is why have so many staff.

Subsidies from the government.

[vdbucks]

Originally Posted by fastball

Chuck, we finally agree on something.

you've known where I stand on this for years...

[vdbucks]

Originally Posted by fastball

Why didn't they do that years ago? Like right at the beginning. Oh wait, they wouldn't have got all that free content stolen from those of us who spent money to make it.

they likely wouldn't even exist today without doing what they did then.

[MakeMeGrrrrowl]

Originally Posted by TaiGhost

I wish you were not correct but they even try to own affiliate site names as keywords.

They use my site name on their videos I get a google alert every time a new one goes up.

And I'm not even in porn!

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by fastball

Why didn't they do that years ago? Like right at the beginning. Oh wait, they wouldn't have got all that free content stolen from those of us who spent money to make it.

Yeah, they now pretend they are a responsible company commited to safety of their users, suddenly, after they got bitch-slapped by VISA/MC for being ignorant assholes for years.

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by vdbucks

na na na na,
na na na na,
hey hey hey....

? ? ? ?

[lockept93]

They get kicked out of Visa & MC, changed the things that where a problem, but still are punished?

So why not just go back to the old system and focus on their ads? I assumed the reason for the changes where cause they want to be back on Visa&MC.

[redwhiteandblue]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

? ? ? ?

Ahem.

[fastball]

Originally Posted by vdbucks

they likely wouldn't even exist today without doing what they did then.

But they could have. They would have had the biggest video "tgp" in the world. They would have had brazzers. But they are, in fact, gypsies tramps and thieves.

[TaiGhost]

Originally Posted by lockept93

They get kicked out of Visa & MC, changed the things that where a problem, but still are punished?

So why not just go back to the old system and focus on their ads? I assumed the reason for the changes where cause they want to be back on Visa&MC.

They still have tons of stolen/UGC up on the platform. Unfortunately the content doesn't belong to "the right people" so they leave it up. No symnpathy from me for the owners or any of their staff. Fuck them. They've done a solid job fucking everyone else over the years.

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by nikki99

is this allowed?

Where does it say you can't?

[trafficstars]

If Pornhub traffic decreases, then other adult sites expect an increase in traffic.

[Tasty1]

Pornhub fired 70% of their people.

Could be smart with the coming recession and VISA problems.

[vdbucks]

Originally Posted by fastball

But they could have. They would have had the biggest video "tgp" in the world. They would have had brazzers. But they are, in fact, gypsies tramps and thieves.

I mean, maybe, but I can't see them ever having gotten as big as they are (were?) without doing what they did for years. They first launched in, what, 2007? And didn't offer a "premium" version until ~2015... that's years of making bank on the back of stolen content before going "legit".

[fuzebox]

I'm sure the new COO looked around the office and realized 70% of the people there were expendable.

Mindgeek will do just fine.

[fastball]

Originally Posted by vdbucks

I mean, maybe, but I can't see them ever having gotten as big as they are (were?) without doing what they did for years. They first launched in, what, 2007? And didn't offer a "premium" version until ~2015... that's years of making bank on the back of stolen content before going "legit".

They were never too legit to quit, IMHO. They tried to do a reputational wash like Joe Kennedy. But failed and got their house burned down. At least Kennedy got his son into the white house. They got nothing but the disrespect they deserve.

[The Heron]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

I'm sure the new COO looked around the office and realized 70% of the people there were expendable.

Mindgeek will do just fine.

I mean how many 'reps' does it take to get you 'custom promo tools'... like -5 i think.

[TheLegacy]

PH may be on the ropes but the backers likely already have a backup plan. Keep in mind this likely isn't the end since other tube sites doing the exact same thing are still operating and not being watched. Xvideo's I believe has already taken over in traffic from PH and other tube sites eg. incestflix (I think) do the same or more to stealing content and suggest under age content.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Tasty1

Pornhub fired 70% of their people.

Could be smart with the coming recession and VISA problems.

it's sad but its biz. i dealt with them directly many times always nice employees.

[mainstreammix]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

The entire tube site concept needs to die out already anyway.
It turned making porn videos into a waste of time.

Originally Posted by TaiGhost

Good news. Its the beginning of the end for that miserable industry.

Originally Posted by plsureking

here comes another paysite gold rush

question - how do we get their traffic? tubes (aka thieves) basically own every adult keyword on google.

#

Do you guys ever get tired of being wrong on the basis of nothing but high hopes?

[SekobA]

Hm...Too much staff

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by mainstreammix

Do you guys ever get tired of being wrong on the basis of nothing but high hopes?

I don't have high hopes and nothing in my post would indicate that.
I only stated the truth about the massive tube concept.
You must be raking in the cash with a tube to even give a shit about my comment.

[mainstreammix]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

I don't have high hopes and nothing in my post would indicate that.
I only stated the truth about the massive tube concept.
You must be raking in the cash with a tube to even give a shit about my comment.

All tube sites did was put a fair market price on old school porn videos, sucks if you are still trying to milk dead cows I guess.

[fastball]

Originally Posted by mainstreammix

All tube sites did was put a fair market price on old school porn videos, sucks if you are still trying to milk dead cows I guess.

What the fuck do you know. You have a 404 website. And that is complete old school bullshit. I make money and don't milk dead cows. Do you?

[fastball]

Originally Posted by mainstreammix

Do you guys ever get tired of being wrong on the basis of nothing but high hopes?

Nope. Not when I know I am right. What did you ever do? Did you ever shoot a porn scene, pay for it, and have it stolen and fenced by Mangeek?......

[SAMANTAmax]

I think they will come back very soon

[fastball]

Originally Posted by SAMANTAmax

I think they will come back very soon

Like Lazarus? Ain't no plastic Jesus in this biz.

[crockett]

Hopefully they go bankrupt…

[crockett]

Originally Posted by mainstreammix

All tube sites did was put a fair market price on old school porn videos, sucks if you are still trying to milk dead cows I guess.

It wasn’t just tubesites.. these fuckers destroyed the adult affiliate industry because they bought up all the sites then stopped updating them and banged the fuck out of the end users credit cards. They took the profits and bought out site after site repeating this process until they destroyed The entire industry.