747 miles on a single charge !!

[Busty2]

Mercedes-Benz Vision EQXX

Stuttgart to the Silverstone racetrack in the UK and breaking its own range record by traveling 747 miles in total on a single charge.

Beyond just being longer in distance, this trip to England had a lot more challenges than the EQXX's drive to France. While the earlier record was set in springtime weather that ranged from 37 to 64 degrees Fahrenheit, temperatures reached 86F on the way to Silverstone. In total the EQXX drove for 14 hours and 30 minutes, with the air conditioning running for 8 of those hours. The EQXX has a multisource heat pump that helps keep the interior cool with a minimal effect on range, and its compact electric motor is efficient enough that it doesn't generate much heat, so the thermal management system can be lighter and smaller. Cooling is partly accomplished through the car's aerodynamics, including active shutters and a cooling plate in the underfloor.


Now thats more like it, this new battery tech is looking promising

[jscott]

That's great!!! Too bad those "battery tech" vehicles are destroying huge portions of Earth.

"The common environmental side effects of lithium mining are water loss, ground destabilisation, biodiversity loss, increased salinity of rivers, contaminated soil and toxic waste. In the Salar de Uyuni, water loss is the main cause for concern."

But thankfully these fields are elsewhere, so we can be happy

[jezz87]

Originally Posted by jscott

That's great!!! Too bad those "battery tech" vehicles are destroying huge portions of Earth.

"The common environmental side effects of lithium mining are water loss, ground destabilisation, biodiversity loss, increased salinity of rivers, contaminated soil and toxic waste. In the Salar de Uyuni, water loss is the main cause for concern."

But thankfully these fields are elsewhere, so we can be happy

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by jscott

That's great!!! Too bad those "battery tech" vehicles are destroying huge portions of Earth.

"The common environmental side effects of lithium mining are water loss, ground destabilisation, biodiversity loss, increased salinity of rivers, contaminated soil and toxic waste. In the Salar de Uyuni, water loss is the main cause for concern."

But thankfully these fields are elsewhere, so we can be happy

And just wait until you have to replace one or all of those batteries.

[jscott]

yeah, it's not gonna be pretty.

[blackmonsters]

I was so into EVs. I wanted the Cyber Truck so bad.

But :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_bZ...hannel=LOCAL12

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by jscott

That's great!!! Too bad those "battery tech" vehicles are destroying huge portions of Earth.

"The common environmental side effects of lithium mining are water loss, ground destabilisation, biodiversity loss, increased salinity of rivers, contaminated soil and toxic waste. In the Salar de Uyuni, water loss is the main cause for concern."

But thankfully these fields are elsewhere, so we can be happy

Originally Posted by pornguy

And just wait until you have to replace one or all of those batteries.

and i heard tyre wear is astronomical, save oil, burn rubber

[RazorSharpe]

Originally Posted by jscott

That's great!!! Too bad those "battery tech" vehicles are destroying huge portions of Earth.

"The common environmental side effects of lithium mining are water loss, ground destabilisation, biodiversity loss, increased salinity of rivers, contaminated soil and toxic waste. In the Salar de Uyuni, water loss is the main cause for concern."

But thankfully these fields are elsewhere, so we can be happy

Guess you don't use a laptop or a mobile phone? I'm hoping that we'll find a better source to power our vehicles (hydrogen maybe), but till then, EVs are a better solution.

It takes 1500+kwh to mine a single bitcoin. Enough energy to power an average US household for 50 days.

Originally Posted by pornguy

And just wait until you have to replace one or all of those batteries.

Are you referencing the cost of changing the batteries or the storage of spent batteries? EV batteries are actually highly recyclable. About 90% of the cell anyway. The EU even has directives that require batteries to be at least 50% recyclable.

Originally Posted by NatalieK

and i heard tyre wear is astronomical, save oil, burn rubber

They had similar tyre wear issues on ICE cars back when ICE cars were a new concept. They evolve and get better. However, tyres on an EV aren't wearing out at the same rate as you burn fuel in an ICE car so that's not really a like for like comparison, is it? Let's not mention that tyres are recyclable.

[RazorSharpe]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

I was so into EVs. I wanted the Cyber Truck so bad.

But :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_bZ...hannel=LOCAL12

Stats actually show that 25.1 out of every 100K electric cars sold caught fire. It also shows that 1529.9 out of 100K ICE cars sold also caught fire.

[jscott]

60% of BTC mined is from renewable energy or what would have been wasted energy, so I wouldn't go that route comparing, BUT, I do agree with you that out of our options some might be better environmentally than others, yes hydrogen maybe, nuclear if possible too.

[RazorSharpe]

Originally Posted by jscott

60% of BTC mined is from renewable energy or what would have been wasted energy, so I wouldn't go that route comparing, BUT, I do agree with you that out of our options some might be better environmentally than others, yes hydrogen maybe, nuclear if possible too.

A Chinese company, Nio, are doing automated battery swaps. Lots of swap shops in China already, but there's one of them in Norway:
https://youtu.be/VmWL1hZQmD0

I'm not sure (yet) how their battery swap subscription model works, but basically, you buy the car and subscribe to batteries.

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by jscott

That's great!!! Too bad those "battery tech" vehicles are destroying huge portions of Earth.

"The common environmental side effects of lithium mining are water loss, ground destabilisation, biodiversity loss, increased salinity of rivers, contaminated soil and toxic waste. In the Salar de Uyuni, water loss is the main cause for concern."

But thankfully these fields are elsewhere, so we can be happy

They're going to get it from Australia, its mined from places even the kangaroos don't go

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-...tion/100318108

Aus is already the biggest exporter of lithium, 46.3% of world supply which we can double if the cash comes..

[jscott]

re: nuclear

Elon agrees:

"Countries should be increasing nuclear power generation! It is insane from a national security standpoint & bad for the environment to shut them down."

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1563292201043431424

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

They're going to get it from Australia, its mined from places even the kangaroos don't go

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-...tion/100318108

Aus is already the biggest exporter of lithium, 46.3% of world supply which we can double if the cash comes..

Didn't realize so much coming from Aus. I think a lot from South America too

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

A Chinese company, Nio, are doing automated battery swaps. Lots of swap shops in China already, but there's one of them in Norway:
https://youtu.be/VmWL1hZQmD0

I'm not sure (yet) how their battery swap subscription model works, but basically, you buy the car and subscribe to batteries.

That'd be great! Maybe a bit more affordable that way. I saw an article yesterday where someone had a battery replaced and it costed $29,000

Found it:


https://www.autoblog.com/2014/01/10/...nt-cost-34000/