Intermittent fasting completely reverses type 2 diabetes - GoFuckYourself.com

Klen · 12-19-2022, 06:30 AM

This is quite interesting since life maintenance is quite annoying when you have diabetes type 2.
Also i wonder is this a reason why i dont have it since i did intermittent fasting often yet a lot of people in family have it. Either way, one more reason to do it among many benefits.

https://scitechdaily.com/intermitten...etes-in-study/

lezinterracial · 12-19-2022, 06:34 AM

I have just started fasting. 16 hours a day without food.

k0nr4d · 12-19-2022, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen

This is quite interesting since life maintenance is quite annoying when you have diabetes type 2.
Also i wonder is this a reason why i dont have it since i did intermittent fasting often yet a lot of people in family have it. Either way, one more reason to do it among many benefits.

https://scitechdaily.com/intermitten...etes-in-study/

Losing weight and fat in general also can cause diabetes to go into remission. It may be the weight loss from teh fasting, not the fasting itself.

CurrentlySober · 12-19-2022, 07:38 AM

Yes, there is certainly something in it - My type 2 went into remission when I started to just eat one meal a day. I wake up at 9.30 to my alarm, & not have breakfast, (never have) then go for a walk (my exercise) skip lunch, then have a cooked meal with all the trimmings around 5pm

Little snooze until about half 6 / 7 then I wouldn't be hungry at all (as I was still digesting my meal) before I fall asleep around 1am

Next day, repeat. Made a huge difference to my readings - I'm still on metformin (because my one meal a day isn't always exactly healthy) but a HUGE improvement from when I was eating several small 'Healthy Meals' throughout the day - Sounds almost counter intuitive, but it DOES work

k0nr4d · 12-19-2022, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Yes, there is certainly something in it - My type 2 went into remission when I started to just eat one meal a day. I wake up at 9.30 to my alarm, & not have breakfast, (never have) then go for a walk (my exercise) skip lunch, then have a cooked meal with all the trimmings around 5pm

Little snooze until about half 6 / 7 then I wouldn't be hungry at all (as I was still digesting my meal) before I fall asleep around 1am

Next day, repeat. Made a huge difference to my readings - I'm still on metformin (because my one meal a day isn't always exactly healthy) but a HUGE improvement from when I was eating several small 'Healthy Meals' throughout the day - Sounds almost counter intuitive, but it DOES work

Have you tried ozempic instead of metformin? For me it's waaaay better. I'm down about 10-11kg so far (insulin-resistance, not diabetes). I barely eat anything as it so heavily suppress appetite to the point where I probably consume under 1000kcal most days and almost have to force myself to eat. I have no basically side-effects either other then the first 2 weeks with some light nausea whereas I had to stop taking metformin because of the gastro side-effects.

CaptainHowdy · 12-19-2022, 07:48 AM

I'm an involuntary intermittent faster (a.k.a string budget meal kind of guy) . . .

TheLegacy · 12-19-2022, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Yes, there is certainly something in it - My type 2 went into remission when I started to just eat one meal a day. I wake up at 9.30 to my alarm, & not have breakfast, (never have) then go for a walk (my exercise) skip lunch, then have a cooked meal with all the trimmings around 5pm

Little snooze until about half 6 / 7 then I wouldn't be hungry at all (as I was still digesting my meal) before I fall asleep around 1am

Next day, repeat. Made a huge difference to my readings - I'm still on metformin (because my one meal a day isn't always exactly healthy) but a HUGE improvement from when I was eating several small 'Healthy Meals' throughout the day - Sounds almost counter intuitive, but it DOES work

I also have Type 2 - been on Metformin and injections for half my life now. I asked my diabetes specialist and they said not to fast - so I'm conflicted. Usually up - light breakfast - no lunch - I do dinner at the house for whole family and stay away from snacks and pop. ( I still do coffee ). When I do snack is when my readings go up and I pay for it but it's very difficult that there is an internal struggle especially around holidays when everyone around the family is inviting us over and trays and trays of finger food and christmas snacks come out. Last week I gave my homemade receipe for chip dip to my neighbor and I know she'll make it and I'll want to eat it. Think it's time I shoot myself a hit higher to compensate - but thankfully I have the FreeStyle LibraLink 2 and it has an alarm if my readings go above 18 or below 4

CurrentlySober · 12-19-2022, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Have you tried ozempic instead of metformin? For me it's waaaay better. I'm down about 10-11kg so far (insulin-resistance, not diabetes). I barely eat anything as it so heavily suppress appetite to the point where I probably consume under 1000kcal most days and almost have to force myself to eat. I have no basically side-effects either other then the first 2 weeks with some light nausea whereas I had to stop taking metformin because of the gastro side-effects.

That's a weight loss drug isn't it? As opposed to a diabetic aid? Ive seen it advertised as an injection pen, that helps you lose weight, but I have not tried it - Metformin works really well for me though.

Infact, in order to save money, the NHS switched me from actual 'Metformin' to a generic version (cant remember the name) and it was awful! I was hungry ALL the time, craving sweet foods and I was putting on weight in real time... Getting even bigger by the day!

Although it was the same ingredients, in the same amounts etc, the Doctor said that it was 'Cooked Together' in a different way... Switched me back to metformin, and the weight I gained dropped off along with my hunger issues...

So I'm happy to stick with the metformin personally - And one meal a day. It doesn't bother me to take the pills, and of course, here in the UK its totally free as well. If I lived elsewhere and had to pay every month for the metformin, then I may well be looking at finding ways to not have to take it, but as it stands, I take it, eat whatever I like once a day, and all is good with the world

CurrentlySober · 12-19-2022, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TheLegacy

I also have Type 2 - been on Metformin and injections for half my life now. I asked my diabetes specialist and they said not to fast - so I'm conflicted. Usually up - light breakfast - no lunch - I do dinner at the house for whole family and stay away from snacks and pop. ( I still do coffee ). When I do snack is when my readings go up and I pay for it but it's very difficult that there is an internal struggle especially around holidays when everyone around the family is inviting us over and trays and trays of finger food and christmas snacks come out. Last week I gave my homemade receipe for chip dip to my neighbor and I know she'll make it and I'll want to eat it. Think it's time I shoot myself a hit higher to compensate - but thankfully I have the FreeStyle LibraLink 2 and it has an alarm if my readings go above 18 or below 4

We are all different. You obviously have it worse than I do, as you are monitoring it on a daily basis - I just have a single checkup per year, and get told to keep on doing what I'm doing, cause it all looks good....

I've just found that eating what I want to eat, but just once a day, and not a silly amount, has worked out very for me

k0nr4d · 12-19-2022, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

That's a weight loss drug isn't it? As opposed to a diabetic aid? Ive seen it advertised as an injection pen, that helps you lose weight, but I have not tried it - Metformin works really well for me though.

Infact, in order to save money, the NHS switched me from actual 'Metformin' to a generic version (cant remember the name) and it was awful! I was hungry ALL the time, craving sweet foods and I was putting on weight in real time... Getting even bigger by the day!

Although it was the same ingredients, in the same amounts etc, the Doctor said that it was 'Cooked Together' in a different way... Switched me back to metformin, and the weight I gained dropped off along with my hunger issues...

So I'm happy to stick with the metformin personally - And one meal a day. It doesn't bother me to take the pills, and of course, here in the UK its totally free as well. If I lived elsewhere and had to pay every month for the metformin, then I may well be looking at finding ways to not have to take it, but as it stands, I take it, eat whatever I like once a day, and all is good with the world

It's first and foremost a diabetic drug, but it's also approved as an obesity drug. Once a week injection in stomach but it's a tiny insulin needle kind of thing. I didn't tolerate metformin well and basically had the shits non-stop while I took it, which was causing me to flush out the magnesium in me and I was getting heart palpitations. I would end up in a hospital with an IV in me once a year, and I finally just stopped taking the metformin and it all went away (but I gained weight). Now it's just flying off with the ozempic. A friend of ours went down something like 17kg in a year - she was like a fat girl and now looks like a normal girl, huge change. If you're fat, might be worth a try. It's like $170 for 4 weeks so not really that expensive.

Jesus H Christ 2.0 · 12-19-2022, 09:51 AM

...losing weight period will resolve type 2.

MakeMeGrrrrowl · 12-19-2022, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

It's first and foremost a diabetic drug, but it's also approved as an obesity drug. Once a week injection in stomach but it's a tiny insulin needle kind of thing. I didn't tolerate metformin well and basically had the shits non-stop while I took it, which was causing me to flush out the magnesium in me and I was getting heart palpitations. I would end up in a hospital with an IV in me once a year, and I finally just stopped taking the metformin and it all went away (but I gained weight). Now it's just flying off with the ozempic. A friend of ours went down something like 17kg in a year - she was like a fat girl and now looks like a normal girl, huge change. If you're fat, might be worth a try. It's like $170 for 4 weeks so not really that expensive.

Ozempic seems like great medications for diabetics. It started I think with saxenda, then ozempic and now they are coming out with wegovy which seems easier to get for weight loss than ozempic.

Unfortunately, Ozempic (and Saxenda) made me terribly sick. I already have a very weak stomach and IBS so taking medications that mess with digestion and prolong it, is terrible for me.

Looks like I'm stuck with trying to eat healthier. I'm still trying to lose the same 30lbs I was trying to lose 5 years ago...stupid 30lbs.

CurrentlySober · 12-19-2022, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

It's first and foremost a diabetic drug, but it's also approved as an obesity drug.

Its weird - If I goto the official website https://www.ozempic.com/ it states clearly that first and foremost, it is for diabetes. It states that although it *may* help you lose some weight, but that it IS NOT FOR WEIGHTLOSS... I'm assuming that's a US site...

Search it in the UK and its the exact opposite - It is 100% sold to enable you to lose weight - With ZERO mention of any diabetic benefits whatsoever (besides weight loss)

k0nr4d · 12-19-2022, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

Ozempic seems like great medications for diabetics. It started I think with saxenda, then ozempic and now they are coming out with wegovy which seems easier to get for weight loss than ozempic.

Unfortunately, Ozempic (and Saxenda) made me terribly sick. I already have a very weak stomach and IBS so taking medications that mess with digestion and prolong it, is terrible for me.

Looks like I'm stuck with trying to eat healthier. I'm still trying to lose the same 30lbs I was trying to lose 5 years ago...stupid 30lbs.

I'm sure it's different for everyone, but I started off first 4 weeks at 0,25 then 4 weeks at 0,50 now I should be taking 1 but I decided to play it safe and go 0,75 for 2 weeks first. I had a little bit of nausea at the start but only when I was hungry.

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rhon23 · 12-19-2022, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

That's a weight loss drug isn't it? As opposed to a diabetic aid? Ive seen it advertised as an injection pen, that helps you lose weight, but I have not tried it - Metformin works really well for me though.

Infact, in order to save money, the NHS switched me from actual 'Metformin' to a generic version (cant remember the name) and it was awful! I was hungry ALL the time, craving sweet foods and I was putting on weight in real time... Getting even bigger by the day!

Although it was the same ingredients, in the same amounts etc, the Doctor said that it was 'Cooked Together' in a different way... Switched me back to metformin, and the weight I gained dropped off along with my hunger issues...

So I'm happy to stick with the metformin personally - And one meal a day. It doesn't bother me to take the pills, and of course, here in the UK its totally free as well. If I lived elsewhere and had to pay every month for the metformin, then I may well be looking at finding ways to not have to take it, but as it stands, I take it, eat whatever I like once a day, and all is good with the world

be careful with metformin. It can be a killer on your kidneys.

AmeliaG · 12-20-2022, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Its weird - If I goto the official website https://www.ozempic.com/ it states clearly that first and foremost, it is for diabetes. It states that although it *may* help you lose some weight, but that it IS NOT FOR WEIGHTLOSS... I'm assuming that's a US site...

Search it in the UK and its the exact opposite - It is 100% sold to enable you to lose weight - With ZERO mention of any diabetic benefits whatsoever (besides weight loss)

Wow, I guess maybe it is FDA-approved for diabetes and the opposite for whatever the UK equivalent of the FDA is. Yay for off label uses, I guess.

mopek1 · 12-20-2022, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

(because my one meal a day isn't always exactly healthy)

Actually I believe it is. I've been doing that for several years now and all of my medical tests are normal and I feel great. My family members have reversed their diabetes and we all hardly get sick anymore. Many friends of mine experience the same. Unless I become a professional athlete, it's omad for life at this point.

AMDWarrior · 12-20-2022, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ 2.0

...losing weight period will resolve type 2.

Just False and dumb..

Biggie Smalls Web Writing · 12-20-2022, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

Actually I believe it is. I've been doing that for several years now and all of my medical tests are normal and I feel great. My family members have reversed their diabetes and we all hardly get sick anymore. Many friends of mine experience the same. Unless I become a professional athlete, it's omad for life at this point.

Exactly. In this case, less is more

CurrentlySober · 12-21-2022, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

(because my one meal a day isn't always exactly healthy)

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Originally Posted by mopek1

Actually I believe it is.

Key word was 'My' - Meaning that a singe meal a day, in itself, isn't necessarily unhealthy...

When my chosen single meal is say '5 Double Cheeseburgers and 4 large fries from McDonalds'...

Then the metformin helps. Sure I dont eat like that EVERYDAY... But I do sometimes...

mopek1 · 12-21-2022, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

When my chosen single meal is say '5 Double Cheeseburgers and 4 large fries from McDonalds'...

LOL, ah, that clears it all up.

CurrentlySober · 12-21-2022, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

LOL, ah, that clears it all up.

CurrentlySober · 12-21-2022, 11:54 AM

I just re-read the title of this thread as 'Intermittent Fisting' !!!

My Mind ! lol

Jesus H Christ 2.0 · 12-21-2022, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AMDWarrior

Just False and dumb..

So anyone who loses weight and tests negative for type 2 is not possible? You read like a silly fat fuck making excuses for being a silly fat fuck.

clipper · 12-21-2022, 02:13 PM

MakeMeGrrrrowl · 12-22-2022, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Key word was 'My' - Meaning that a singe meal a day, in itself, isn't necessarily unhealthy...

When my chosen single meal is say '5 Double Cheeseburgers and 4 large fries from McDonalds'...

Then the metformin helps. Sure I dont eat like that EVERYDAY... But I do sometimes...

But for real, could you actually eat that much at one time?

CurrentlySober · 12-23-2022, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

But for real, could you actually eat that much at one time?

Yep, occasionally I do...

BTW, you can always tell if i'm being serious or fucking about via my sig - I turn it off when I'm being 100% real

CurrentlySober · 12-28-2022, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Wow, I guess maybe it is FDA-approved for diabetes and the opposite for whatever the UK equivalent of the FDA is. Yay for off label uses, I guess.

Just getting attention in the UK... For Weight Loss...

Klen · 12-28-2022, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Just getting attention in the UK... For Weight Loss...

It gets attention in my country too, it was just been on news how actual diabetics cant get it due people exploitation of it for weight loss.

celandina · 12-30-2022, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen

This is quite interesting since life maintenance is quite annoying when you have diabetes type 2.
Also i wonder is this a reason why i dont have it since i did intermittent fasting often yet a lot of people in family have it. Either way, one more reason to do it among many benefits.

https://scitechdaily.com/intermitten...etes-in-study/

I have a coffee at 8AM, then nothing and dinner at 8PM. and still have the " curse"

if I do not count the coffee I am on 23h "intermittent diet".

Klen · 12-30-2022, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina

I have a coffee at 8AM, then nothing and dinner at 8PM. and still have the " curse"

if I do not count the coffee I am on 23h "intermittent diet".

You doing it wrong - you should have breakfast and lunch in 8 am - 4 pm period, and then eat nothing.

Biggie Smalls Web Writing · 12-30-2022, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen

You doing it wrong - you should have breakfast and lunch in 8 am - 4 pm period, and then eat nothing.

That is the most recent study that has been proven as the most efficient.

I personally think it does not matter that much as long as you have periods of ''not eating''.

If you are a beginner then its easier to adapt to the program where you eat right before bedtime and then skip breakfast.

If you are a pro and work out in the mornings, then eating breakfast is a better option as well as skipping late lunch and dinner.

Either way, you need to have strong character to practice this for a long period of time and what is even more important to slowly get rid of carbs. High-carb diets along with a stress are killers.

Fasting and low carb diet along with physical activities are the way to go when it comes to naturally boosting testosterone levels and reversing the aging process.

celandina · 01-01-2023, 04:07 AM

Its a New Year so starting now I will do 45 min walk daily , and will have balanced ONE meal daily. See what will happen in 3 months.

CurrentlySober · 01-01-2023, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina

Its a New Year so starting now I will do 45 min walk daily , and will have balanced ONE meal daily. See what will happen in 3 months.

Be sure to update this thread - I'm sure it will work wonders for you

Biggie Smalls Web Writing · 01-01-2023, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina

Its a New Year so starting now I will do 45 min walk daily , and will have balanced ONE meal daily. See what will happen in 3 months.

Good luck

Retiree · 01-01-2023, 03:23 PM

I am doing IF for over 10 years now...best decision I ever did. Feel healthier today than during my college years. Started with 16/8, now down to 17/7 or 18/6, depending on the day. I still snack outside of it sometimes, not doing it hardcore, but only eat outside the windows couple times a month...sometimes not even that.

Its great to combine it with keto, I like doing that for 4-5 weeks every year, gives my body a nice restart every time.

Retiree · 01-01-2023, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Klen

You doing it wrong - you should have breakfast and lunch in 8 am - 4 pm period, and then eat nothing.

Breakfast is overrated, it works much better with no eating until lunch, at earliest. I workout around 11am and my first meal is around 1pm. Nothing better than a good workout on an empty stomach, when your hormon levels are high. And I keep them high by not eating carbs right after the workout...just protein with fat. Carbs are testosterone and gh killer. I usually start with carbs 2 hours after a workout.

Klen · 01-02-2023, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Retiree

Breakfast is overrated, it works much better with no eating until lunch, at earliest. I workout around 11am and my first meal is around 1pm. Nothing better than a good workout on an empty stomach, when your hormon levels are high. And I keep them high by not eating carbs right after the workout...just protein with fat. Carbs are testosterone and gh killer. I usually start with carbs 2 hours after a workout.

Well, i did noticed how for some reason i have more energy on empty stomach then when eating something. however breakfast does not need to include food, it can be just cup of coffee, or even better bulletproof coffee.

Retiree · 01-02-2023, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen

Well, i did noticed how for some reason i have more energy on empty stomach then when eating something. however breakfast does not need to include food, it can be just cup of coffee, or even better bulletproof coffee.

Yeah, I do coffee in the morning, since it has no calories and doesn't throw me out of the fasting period. I think only coffee and tea are "safe" to consume during fasting, alongside water, of course.

As for energy...you should have the most energy 2-4 hours after waking up, so that is the best time to work out on an empty stomach, to use the higher natural hormone levels as well. So when waking up around 7am, 10-11am would be a good window to work-out. Second best time is then around 5-6pm. Everything after that is messing up sleep, but I understand that many people don't have the luxury to choose, so its definitely better to workout late than not at all.

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