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bobawan · 02-22-2023, 12:59 PM

I know that it gives the right code on request, but is it possible to generate a fully working structure of the site in this way?

2MuchMark · 02-22-2023, 02:12 PM

Why not ask it that question?

Darkhorse · 02-22-2023, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bobawan

I know that it gives the right code on request, but is it possible to generate a fully working structure of the site in this way?

If you know how to ask it, yes.

the_software_dev · 02-25-2023, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bobawan

I know that it gives the right code on request, but is it possible to generate a fully working structure of the site in this way?

It really depends on the site. Have a look at GitHub Copilot, it uses the very same tech. It's pretty smart once it learns your project, but it has to have a project to begin with.

SharkAttack · 02-25-2023, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by the_software_dev

It really depends on the site. Have a look at GitHub Copilot, it uses the very same tech. It's pretty smart once it learns your project, but it has to have a project to begin with.

Yes, Copilot is pretty good when the servers are working

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Originally Posted by bobawan

I know that it gives the right code on request

That is not entirely correct

wankawonk · 02-25-2023, 10:13 PM

its already next to impossible to explain exactly what you want to a real human developer. its a back-and-forth iterative process. you'll change your mind about things multiple times. the developer will interpret your instructions different than you expected. getting it right will involve many iterations.

its not going to be any different with chatgpt.

the_software_dev · 02-26-2023, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wankawonk

its already next to impossible to explain exactly what you want to a real human developer. its a back-and-forth iterative process. you'll change your mind about things multiple times. the developer will interpret your instructions different than you expected. getting it right will involve many iterations.

its not going to be any different with chatgpt.

Pretty much this. Copilot is pretty good because it learns your code base and it makes the correct assumptions & references to other pieces of code that you already have. But I think we're still far away from completely generating working products with AI only. There are some discord servers where people try to do this for the front-end part of a site and it works.. sometimes. For the backend logic though I don't know of anyone who's working on something like this.

MetaCPA · 02-26-2023, 04:33 AM

I think you can.

Klen · 02-26-2023, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by the_software_dev

Pretty much this. Copilot is pretty good because it learns your code base and it makes the correct assumptions & references to other pieces of code that you already have. But I think we're still far away from completely generating working products with AI only. There are some discord servers where people try to do this for the front-end part of a site and it works.. sometimes. For the backend logic though I don't know of anyone who's working on something like this.

It depend on complexity on problem and also quality of language. For example what i find annoying in javascript, very often some error would occur, i would do nothing but maybe delete some blank space and then it would work. With languages like PHP there is no such silly errors, every line there have some logic.
So for full AI there should be a language which works on logic and it covers both backend and frontend. Who knows, maybe this will make popular Dot Net language which is capable for that and is much faster then php/js combo, but also suck at documentation which is a reason why it's not more popular.

Parria · 02-26-2023, 08:12 AM

For a simple site may be fine, however, I would do everything manually

bobawan · 02-26-2023, 11:30 AM

ty for replies, pals

wankawonk · 02-26-2023, 01:15 PM

OK, I asked chatgpt whether it can replace programmers. Here's the answer, right from the horse's mouth.

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can chatgpt replace programmers?

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No, ChatGPT cannot replace programmers. While ChatGPT is a powerful language model that can understand and generate human-like text, it is not capable of writing and developing complex software applications.

Programmers are skilled professionals who have expertise in designing, writing, testing, and maintaining software programs. They use their creativity, problem-solving abilities, and technical knowledge to develop applications that meet specific requirements and solve real-world problems. They have a deep understanding of programming languages, algorithms, and data structures, which is something that ChatGPT does not possess.

However, ChatGPT can assist programmers by generating ideas, providing solutions, and offering suggestions that can help them in their work. It can also be used for tasks such as automated code completion, bug detection, and code analysis.

ZTT · 02-26-2023, 01:42 PM

The "horse" in this case being the programmers that programmed it, jerking off about how rockstar programmers are.

ChatGPT has given me non-working code most of the time, and wrong answers even to questions it knows the answer to.

Ie, I ask it something, it gives a bunch of wrong answers, always stated with 200% confidence, finally stating what I want is impossible, then when told how it's done, states yes, that's how it's done and explains it in a way that shows it knew all along.

It's extremely easy to use, but mostly just a huge waste of time.

the_software_dev · 02-27-2023, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Klen

It depend on complexity on problem and also quality of language. For example what i find annoying in javascript, very often some error would occur, i would do nothing but maybe delete some blank space and then it would work. With languages like PHP there is no such silly errors, every line there have some logic.
So for full AI there should be a language which works on logic and it covers both backend and frontend. Who knows, maybe this will make popular Dot Net language which is capable for that and is much faster then php/js combo, but also suck at documentation which is a reason why it's not more popular.

Models such as chatGPT don't care about the language. It's built to adapt to your code and language, based on other code that was previously written in that language. Also we have software these days (not AI-based) that can correct your code in almost every language, so in theory chatGPT can already bypass syntax errors.

AmeliaG · 03-02-2023, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Klen

It depend on complexity on problem and also quality of language. For example what i find annoying in javascript, very often some error would occur, i would do nothing but maybe delete some blank space and then it would work. With languages like PHP there is no such silly errors, every line there have some logic.
So for full AI there should be a language which works on logic and it covers both backend and frontend. Who knows, maybe this will make popular Dot Net language which is capable for that and is much faster then php/js combo, but also suck at documentation which is a reason why it's not more popular.

Interesting thought. ChatGPT is less creative than some AI, so its ffavorite coding language is just whatever it has trained on most.

I think you have a very interesting idea for more creative AI, in that AI could approach problems from more directions at once, so very different languages might appeal to it most.

fastball · 03-04-2023, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bobawan

I know that it gives the right code on request, but is it possible to generate a fully working structure of the site in this way?

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02-22-2023, 12:59 PM	#1
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02-26-2023, 01:42 PM	#13
ZTT Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 657	The "horse" in this case being the programmers that programmed it, jerking off about how rockstar programmers are. ChatGPT has given me non-working code most of the time, and wrong answers even to questions it knows the answer to. Ie, I ask it something, it gives a bunch of wrong answers, always stated with 200% confidence, finally stating what I want is impossible, then when told how it's done, states yes, that's how it's done and explains it in a way that shows it knew all along. It's extremely easy to use, but mostly just a huge waste of time. __________________ __________________

02-25-2023, 10:13 PM	#6
wankawonk Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 999	its already next to impossible to explain exactly what you want to a real human developer. its a back-and-forth iterative process. you'll change your mind about things multiple times. the developer will interpret your instructions different than you expected. getting it right will involve many iterations. its not going to be any different with chatgpt.

02-26-2023, 04:33 AM	#8
MetaCPA Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2022 Posts: 28	I think you can.

02-26-2023, 08:12 AM	#10
Parria Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2023 Posts: 9	For a simple site may be fine, however, I would do everything manually

02-26-2023, 11:30 AM	#11
bobawan Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2023 Posts: 7	ty for replies, pals