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Old 02-24-2023, 11:59 AM   #1
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Need help deciding what to do with cams aggregator

Hello! So I'm a software developer with experience on the tech side of the adult field, but 0 experience on the business side. Few months ago I started working on a webcam aggregator script with the intention of selling it once it's done. I'm close to finish, so I started looking at other aggregators / cam affiliates to see how we compare and here is where I start to get confused...

I noticed that my aggregator "script" (which is now basically a full CMS) is miles away from every other website or script of this type. It has so much better SEO and user experience, AND it's super easy to set up (I think I can build 2-3 websites per day with it). In terms of SEO and UX I was able to find only 2 other websites that come close, and those are definitely custom-made. So now that I've seen what the competition looks like between affiliates, I'm starting to think that maybe I shouldn't sell my webcam aggregator CMS to others but build my own websites with it, since they would be so much better. The problem is that selling the script provides revenue instantly, while building my own affiliate sites means that I will start earning in ~3-6 months from now.

So.. I'm curious, what would you do?
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Can you write parcer on server side that would collect images from this feed and store on a server? Ever worked with web hooks like that?

https://pornpen.ai/feed
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Can you write parcer on server side that would collect images from this feed and store on a server? Ever worked with web hooks like that?
Wrong thread? Anyway: yes, I can do that.
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Hello! So I'm a software developer with a lot of tech experience in the adult field, but 0 experience on the business side of the adult field. Few months ago I started working on a webcam aggregator script with the intention of selling it once it's done. I'm close to finish, so I started looking at other aggregators / cam affiliates to see how we compare and here is where I start to get confused...

I noticed that my aggregator "script" (which is now basically a full CMS) is miles away from every other website or script of this type. It has so much better SEO and user experience, AND it's super easy to set up (I think I can build 2-3 websites per day with it). In terms of SEO and UX I was able to find only 2 other websites that come close, and those are definitely custom-made. So now that I've seen what the competition looks like between affiliates, I'm starting to think that maybe I shouldn't sell my webcam aggregator CMS to others but build my own websites with it, since they would be so much better. The problem is that selling the script provides revenue instantly, while building my own affiliate sites means that I will start earning in ~3-6 months from now.

So.. I'm curious, what would you do?
If u do not have traffic, you have nothing even with 100 perfect sites. You say your script has "so much better seo" - how can u know that? What about domains? What about links? You dont rank just for a good seo structure.

So from what you write I believe u should focus your strenght - programing.

My honest answer.
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If you do make sites on your own, try Chaturbate using the link in my sig, it makes a lot of money for some people.

But, if I were you, I'd sell it as non-exclusive, then you can use the script for your own sites, too.

Also, there are a lot more traffic sources than just SEO. Think like a salesman.
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So.. I'm curious, what would you do?
First, use it yourself for a set period before releasing for sale to other affiliates. If it is head & shoulders above other scripts, sell copies for a premium price that reflect it's quality.

I know you won't offer a demo right now, so in lieu of that, can you share what you consider these to be...

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I was able to find only 2 other websites that come close, and those are definitely custom-made.
I look forward to seeing how this develops.

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If u do not have traffic, you have nothing even with 100 perfect sites. You say your script has "so much better seo" - how can u know that?
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I know you won't offer a demo right now, so in lieu of that, can you share what you consider these to be...
Just one of many things: mine scores 99/100 on Google Lighthouse, everything else barely hits 80/100. And those are the good ones.
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Just one of many things: mine scores 99/100 on Google Lighthouse, everything else barely hits 80/100. And those are the good ones.
links > anything else, including speed


I have a site with 98/100 barely getting 150 hits per day.... and a 72/100 with 50k daily
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Just one of many things: mine scores 99/100 on Google Lighthouse, everything else barely hits 80/100. And those are the good ones.
Can you recall the 2 sites you consider these to be?
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Old 02-24-2023, 01:02 PM   #10
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links > anything else, including speed


I have a site with 98/100 barely getting 150 hits per day.... and a 72/100 with 50k daily
Ofc, but external links are out of the script's control (ish, won't get into this now). So assuming you can pull the same links on these 2 websites, the one powered by my script is going to perform at least 25% better.
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If you consider selling it, let me know. I'd love to try it
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If you can't pay the rent without selling it, hide from the landlord. Otherwise don't sell it, if it's as good as you say and you think it can kill other sites.

If things don't go as well as you hoped, you can still sell it later, but you can't 'unsell' once it's out there in other peoples' hands.
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Wrong thread? Anyway: yes, I can do that.
Do you have email? I cant send PM to you.
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What types of sites have you coded in the past?

If you have a domain portfolio sitting around with existing links in, and your script is super easy to set up, you can use it to populate some content without much effort, and just see how it goes.

Selling it nonexclusive doesn't mean you can't utilize it yourself. If traffic-building is not your thing, you may benefit from that sort of hybrid business model.
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You would not be the first or even the thousandth programmer to think their stuff is so much better and loves to criticize the UI/UX of successful sites...

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It was my question too.

I didn't sell it because I don't want to answer email and provide supports.

A year later, I make money while I sleep

Site is below. Some say it's shit some say they like it.

If your site is that good show it
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What types of sites have you coded in the past?

If you have a domain portfolio sitting around with existing links in, and your script is super easy to set up, you can use it to populate some content without much effort, and just see how it goes.

Selling it nonexclusive doesn't mean you can't utilize it yourself. If traffic-building is not your thing, you may benefit from that sort of hybrid business model.
Thanks, you're the only one to actually address my question! Unfortunately I don't have domains so I'm gonna have to start this from scratch. I think I'll go for it tho.

> What types of sites have you coded in the past?

Anything you can imagine
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Your question was should you sell or keep it to yourself and you got several different answers. The one not answering the questions is you, such as what you've done in the past and what are the sites you think you're better than.
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Well... nice way of marketing yourself

To play along, do both, or do none, or do one... whatever makes you happy, one does not eliminate the other...

In terms of frontend, on-site SEO, UX, whatever, it makes absolutely no diference of the backend as long as it's not a complete pile of shit... the frontend can be modified and optimised to the max

For example, with Konrad's Cam Aggregator script, i have optimised the frontend for a lot of its users and they do perfectly fine in terms of on-site SEO, speed and overall usability and rankings.

I would love to see your script in action, though
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I'm not going to continue this stupid conversation. I asked a question and you all got butthurt. See you on the field I guess, and thanks to everyone who actually bothered to answer what I was asking.

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I'll bet you'll make about $90 on this, then try something else..
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I'll bet you'll make about $90 on this, then try something else..
No worries, I'll make sure to sign up using the link in your signature as you suggested above. Cause yeah, we're all 14 yos scrambling over a quick buck
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No worries, I'll make sure to sign up using the link in your signature as you suggested above. Cause yeah, we're all 14 yos scrambling over a quick buck
My sig has made me a lot of money, thanks lol.
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I'm not going to continue this stupid conversation. I asked a question and you all got butthurt. See you on the field I guess, and thanks to everyone who actually bothered to answer what I was asking.

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"you all got butthurt", really?

only one person in this conversation sounds butthurt to me.

you want to survive gfy? grow a thicker skin.

As far as whether you should sell your software or just make sites or both or none, without seeing the program in action it is hard to make any reasonable suggestions imho

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"you all got butthurt", really?

only one person in this conversation sounds butthurt to me.

you want to survive gfy? grow a thicker skin.

As far as whether you should sell your software or just make sites or both or none, without seeing the program in action it is hard to make any reasonable suggestions imho

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If the SEO-ability is like you say.

How about something that is a bit of both...

Create a whitelabel service using your script that allows other affiliates to use it and customise/SEO to their needs, but all copies have a compulsory link to your main cam affiliate site, pretty much how a lot of open source scripts operate with a footer link.

Just another idea that will meet your needs and that of a lot of affiliates, who are forever complaining about existing cam site whitelabels, where they might not necessarily have the skill to create a site using an API, but whitelabels usually contain canonical link rendering them pretty low value option for SEO affiliates.
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Well... nice way of marketing yourself
seriously

I think sometimes people forget that conduct and professionalism (or lack thereof) weights in heavily when making a decision to work with a developer or purchasing a script/CMS

personally there's a very small handful of peeps here I would never work with or rec to others, simply cuz they have revealed their personalities and attitudes to be so unpleasant. life is too short to deal with that kind of headache


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I'm not going to continue this stupid conversation
uh, you come here first as an individual (now it's apparently 'we' the 'team') with basically a splash page for your website, no one knows you, your site has no web presence other than the direct URL and you claim to be better than everyone else but for two sites you won't name

I bet I'm not the only one here to suspect this thread is basically an indirect soft-sell, with you hoping peeps will contact you directly, off the board


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without seeing the program in action it is hard to make any reasonable suggestions imho
I'm guessing the script is the one he posted in his intro thread, camworldx.com

it was registered shortly before he joined here, and two of the most prominent footer links (reddit and twitter) are still completely empty

if that is the site, I don't see it anywhere in goog except for when searching directly by the name

it's a nice looking site, loads well, etc. noticed there's no Privacy, Contact or T&C pages though. regarding UI it's not all that different than what Konrad's put out. I prefer the OP's design aesthetically, but Konrad's demo is just that. colors and such can be easily changed


@OP I thought there were several constructive and helpful replies to your query in this thread, as well as valid and relevant questions that you chose to leave unaddressed

you flying off the handle over nothing speaks volumes though
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This is exactly what you come across as
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1. This is the adult industry. There are a lot of KWs that can easily be ranked #1 for, like most of them, it's finding the KWs that convert then scaling up that's most of the game. If you think that your cam sites are ranking higher than most, then you just aren't seeing most of the converting terms, because you don't know what they are yet.
2. A lot of people making big money in cams are doing media buys, they only care about EPCs, so none of them will notice your script.
3. There are already a ton of these API scripts available, people also know how to do their own SEO instead of relying on an out of the box solution to do it for them. Yes, API does convert well, but there's a lot more to it than making it look good and doing on-site SEO. As an affiliate, you want the surfer to go on your site, set the cookie, then get them on the cam/ref site as quick as possible, let them finish the signup/sale. I can make a crappy site that converts better than your "perfect" site.
4. You can probably get around $20-50 each for something like this.
5. Calling yourself "the_software_dev" is sus.
6. Be nice to people and think customer service, that gets more connections and potential buyers if you do sell the script/something.
7. Learn how a forum called Go Fuck Yourself works before getting butthurt.

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If you dont want to show your website, you could put some domain online (demo) and ask people to check it... that will make people desire go to sky if your script is good enough and better than what is available in the market like you said

If your script can beat Roboscripts (RIP) its a good signal

For now, you are just screaming how good your script is
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i like your site though

i think it would sell at a reasonable price point ($30-$100) as robo is gone and mech one is a lot higher price
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Yeah I don't get it. Aren't links on gfy nofollow aswell?
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Old 02-26-2023, 02:39 PM   #39
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It's a nice looking script.
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Old 02-27-2023, 09:50 AM   #40
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Yeah I don't get it. Aren't links on gfy nofollow aswell?
Yes, all links are nofollow by default.

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Old 02-28-2023, 03:49 PM   #41
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I was comparing his to robo's one
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Old 04-24-2024, 04:49 AM   #42
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Hello! So I'm a software developer with experience on the tech side of the adult field, but 0 experience on the business side. Few months ago I started working on a webcam aggregator script with the intention of selling it once it's done. I'm close to finish, so I started looking at other aggregators / cam affiliates to see how we compare and here is where I start to get confused...

I noticed that my aggregator "script" (which is now basically a full CMS) is miles away from every other website or script of this type. It has so much better SEO and user experience, AND it's super easy to set up (I think I can build 2-3 websites per day with it). In terms of SEO and UX I was able to find only 2 other websites that come close, and those are definitely custom-made. So now that I've seen what the competition looks like between affiliates, I'm starting to think that maybe I shouldn't sell my webcam aggregator CMS to others but build my own websites with it, since they would be so much better. The problem is that selling the script provides revenue instantly, while building my own affiliate sites means that I will start earning in ~3-6 months from now.

So.. I'm curious, what would you do?
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Old 04-24-2024, 07:09 AM   #43
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Well, that didn't last long.



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^^^you mean like S using the 'light' background on his browser? I'm guttered too
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Old 04-25-2024, 12:30 PM   #46
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^^^you mean like S using the 'light' background on his browser? I'm guttered too
LOL

Dark mode is the best thing ever invented

I mean for a browser, dark mode is great. Had to clarify so King Mark doesn't get excited.
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LOL

Dark mode is the best thing ever invented

I mean for a browser, dark mode is great. Had to clarify so King Mark doesn't get excited.
If I made a tube or cam site, then made a dark mode button, but when you press it, all of the videos/cam girls turn to ebony niche, would people be mad at me or would that be a fun feature that could go "viral"?
Just curious
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Well, that didn't last long.
Not surprising. It's not possible to make a living selling scripts in the adult industry anymore - especially with something like a cam aggregator which can really only be used exclusively in this industry. Almost our entire income is from custom development. Scripts are a long game - it takes a while to make back the money you invested into writing it in the first place and in some cases (like our tgp script) you never do.
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his site is live, but he doesn't reply to emails and the girl in charge for marketing ban everyone try to contact her.
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