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PBTHello · 03-08-2023, 01:42 AM

Hey guys,

I need help. I have a site ready and hosted in Amsterdam and I live in Spain, but do not know how to fix the formal company parts with bank accounts etc. I cannot find ANYONE to help me out with this as everybody says that the adult industry is sensitive, you will get sued, no bank will take your money etc etc etc.

Can anyone please help? This is probably helpful for a lot of other users as well I can imagine.

Thanks in advance for your input guys!

Cheers!

PS: If somebody wants to contact me directly about this instead, hit me up and I will provide an e-mail.

Klen · 03-08-2023, 02:03 AM

Try xolo.com for accounting in Spain. Just dont say how you do adult,it's not like they actually verify that.

Jille · 03-08-2023, 03:18 AM

Hey. We're a tech startup based in NL, so we know how it works here and might be able to help you out.

Can you provide some more details about what you're trying to do? (Why) do you want to register a Dutch company / bank account? Are you doing B2B or B2C?

djroof · 03-08-2023, 03:49 AM

Try to make a marketing company for online biz etc and just work with it. Also try to find someone from Cyprus or Bulgaria and Malta I think, will helps u.

PBTHello · 03-08-2023, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen

Try xolo.com for accounting in Spain. Just dont say how you do adult,it's not like they actually verify that.

Hi! xolo.com does not work for me. The site for dog breeders...

PBTHello · 03-08-2023, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jille

Hey. We're a tech startup based in NL, so we know how it works here and might be able to help you out.

Can you provide some more details about what you're trying to do? (Why) do you want to register a Dutch company / bank account? Are you doing B2B or B2C?

Hi again! We are also a tech company who have built the site with everything ready B2C.

The only thing we need to get started with the site in production is the underlying "business infrastructure" so to say, with company bank account etc.

We already have our own Spanish company, but for our "normal" day to day business, and we have been told not to use this for the adult site due to risk of lawsuits etc etc etc.

Jille · 03-08-2023, 04:46 AM

Okay. You're gonna want a BV ("Besloten Vennootschap"). That's a legal entity that's fully separate from your current one, and can simply be owned by your Spanish company.

You'd have to work with a notary to create articles of incorporation and then register with our chamber of commerce.

I think there are companies able to help you with this, like firm24.com/en/incorporation-bv/ or ligo.nl/en/incorporate-dutch-bv (I've never worked with either, but it looks like they might handle everything for you, which is nice.)

(Sorry, I can't post working links yet)

adtrafic · 03-08-2023, 04:58 AM

Ni puto caso a lo que te hayan dicho.

Puedes operar desde España tranquilamente.

Muchos sitios grandes operan desde España.

Si lo que quieres es opacidad, abre una empresa en alguna jurisdicción offshore.

baodb · 03-08-2023, 05:57 AM

If you cant figure out how to open a company I have a bad feeling about your ability to thrive in this industry.

Anyhow Netherlands is not the jurisdiction I would choose if you just need something anywhere in the EU

Klen · 03-08-2023, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PBTHello

Hi! xolo.com does not work for me. The site for dog breeders...

Wrong domain extension lol.

Here is right url: https://www.xolo.io/zz-en

PBTHello · 03-09-2023, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by adtrafic

Ni puto caso a lo que te hayan dicho.

Puedes operar desde España tranquilamente.

Muchos sitios grandes operan desde España.

Si lo que quieres es opacidad, abre una empresa en alguna jurisdicción offshore.

Buenas,

Ok, entiendo. Me puedes dar un par de ejemplos de estas empresas para que puedo mirar y ver lo que han hecho ellos?

Saludos!

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adtrafic · 03-09-2023, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by PBTHello

Buenas,

Ok, entiendo. Me puedes dar un par de ejemplos de estas empresas para que puedo mirar y ver lo que han hecho ellos?

Saludos!

Deja un correo de contacto y te envio varias urls.

Saludos

pornlaw · 03-09-2023, 04:01 PM

Im a US attorney but I live in the Netherlands.

I work with a network of attorneys through-out the EU so if you need an attorney here Id be happy to make a referral...

EMail me at michael(at)fattlegal.com

NatalieK · 03-09-2023, 04:06 PM

Any bank is ok for an adult business, you should ok setting up an account with Santander or Sabadell. We´re with Sabadell and a local accountant shall help you set up your autonomo and accounts, if creating content, you´ll need to pay vat & tax

PBTHello · 03-10-2023, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by NatalieK

Any bank is ok for an adult business, you should ok setting up an account with Santander or Sabadell. We´re with Sabadell and a local accountant shall help you set up your autonomo and accounts, if creating content, you´ll need to pay vat & tax

Hi @NatalieK,

Great stuff to speak to someone actually running business in Spain! Thanks for your input! I completely understand on the VAT and tax, this is our full intention as is normal.

When looking at your sites it says the company is from Cyprus in your legal texts though? Is there a reason you are not stating your Spanish autonomo in all legal texts? Hope it´s ok to ask like this, we are just really trying to get the hang of this ;)

Cheers!

/Peter

nikki99 · 03-10-2023, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

me gusta la caca

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nikki99 · 03-10-2023, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PBTHello

xolo.com..

trolo?

that might be from argentina

Dmitry · 03-12-2023, 07:51 PM

Why not to open a company outside of Spain or even EU? Your website is global anyway.
I would choose company in the USA.

Klen · 03-13-2023, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dmitry

Why not to open a company outside of Spain or even EU? Your website is global anyway.
I would choose company in the USA.

Because it can cause problems with bureaucracy .

DVTimes · 03-13-2023, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PBTHello

Hey guys,

I need help. I have a site ready and hosted in Amsterdam and I live in Spain, but do not know how to fix the formal company parts with bank accounts etc. I cannot find ANYONE to help me out with this as everybody says that the adult industry is sensitive, you will get sued, no bank will take your money etc etc etc.

Can anyone please help? This is probably helpful for a lot of other users as well I can imagine.

Thanks in advance for your input guys!

Cheers!

PS: If somebody wants to contact me directly about this instead, hit me up and I will provide an e-mail.

It sounds like you are over complicating the situation.

First thing is, you are probably best to use a USA host as it will probably be cheaper and less problems. Some non USA hosting firms do not allow adult, and such as France are making porn harder to access, I would not host in the EU or even UK (as they keep trying to bring in anti porn laws).

As for a bank, this should be no problem as long as what your doing is legal.

Most people just have a personal account and pay money into it. Or set up a business account. Again it should not be a problem.

In truth, your main problem is making money. Many think doing porn is easy cash and have a shock when they make nothing.

DVTimes · 03-13-2023, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PBTHello

Hi @NatalieK,

Great stuff to speak to someone actually running business in Spain! Thanks for your input! I completely understand on the VAT and tax, this is our full intention as is normal.

When looking at your sites it says the company is from Cyprus in your legal texts though? Is there a reason you are not stating your Spanish autonomo in all legal texts? Hope it´s ok to ask like this, we are just really trying to get the hang of this ;)

Cheers!

/Peter

Because that Cyprus address is the host/payment system.

He uses as I do use modelcentro to host and do everything. If your plan is to run a paysite, this is the easy option as they host everything. All you do is upload content.

Thus the Cyprus info is presumably where the firm or the payment side is registered.

03-08-2023, 01:42 AM	#1
PBTHello Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2023 Posts: 5	Starting up in the EU Hey guys, I need help. I have a site ready and hosted in Amsterdam and I live in Spain, but do not know how to fix the formal company parts with bank accounts etc. I cannot find ANYONE to help me out with this as everybody says that the adult industry is sensitive, you will get sued, no bank will take your money etc etc etc. Can anyone please help? This is probably helpful for a lot of other users as well I can imagine. Thanks in advance for your input guys! Cheers! PS: If somebody wants to contact me directly about this instead, hit me up and I will provide an e-mail.

03-08-2023, 03:18 AM	#3
Jille Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Netherlands Posts: 6	Hey. We're a tech startup based in NL, so we know how it works here and might be able to help you out. Can you provide some more details about what you're trying to do? (Why) do you want to register a Dutch company / bank account? Are you doing B2B or B2C? __________________ [email protected]

03-08-2023, 04:46 AM	#7
Jille Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Netherlands Posts: 6	Okay. You're gonna want a BV ("Besloten Vennootschap"). That's a legal entity that's fully separate from your current one, and can simply be owned by your Spanish company. You'd have to work with a notary to create articles of incorporation and then register with our chamber of commerce. I think there are companies able to help you with this, like firm24.com/en/incorporation-bv/ or ligo.nl/en/incorporate-dutch-bv (I've never worked with either, but it looks like they might handle everything for you, which is nice.) (Sorry, I can't post working links yet) __________________ [email protected]

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