Is a Trump presidency a threat to the adult industry?

[cordoba]

I've been reading things about Project 2025, and I saw that sites like Pornhub are showing ads before videos warning of a Trump presidency, or at least the Project which is being associated with him.

As a non-American, I'd like to know from more knowledgeable people here if a Trump presidency would be a real danger to the adult industry.

I saw a video of him explicitly distancing himself from Project 2025 when questioned about it, and he said that a lot of their ideas are crazy. I do remember that when Trump was running the first time, quite a few here were predicting that he'd try to ban porn, and he did no such thing. The left-leaning posters here (probably a majority) also tend to ignore the fact that the push for anti-porn laws often comes from the Left, and that's certainly the case in Europe. For example, the Conservative party in the UK introduced a draft for a law to ban the sharing of deepfake porn, but the new Labour party says that's not good enough, and are going to make the creation of it illegal too.

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by cordoba

For example, the Conservative party in the UK introduced a draft for a law to ban the sharing of deepfake porn, but the new Labour party says that's not good enough, and are going to make the creation of it illegal too.

Okay, well, would you want deepfake porn of you, your mom, or your girlfriend being made and shared around?

If it happened to you, I'm sure you'd want the law to have the teeth to take down the people making and spreading it.

That's a far cry from legal adults making a little fucky-fucky video to put on pornhub!

[cordoba]

I support the law against sharing non-consensual deepfake porn, although it was already essentially covered by laws against revenge porn. I think a law banning the private creation of it is crazy. Anyway, I was simply illustrating that Labour (the Left) are going further than the Conservatives (the Right) on this matter.

The UK (Left) government are also pushing ahead to make it near impossible to run an adult website from the UK.

https://www.xbiz.com/news/284852/uk-...s-not-feasible

[TheLegacy]

It's difficult to label AI into the porn industry since the actual creators are the common user/people that usually buy the porn.
That being said - what Huggles said is correct - and right now there are efforts being made to stop things like revenge porn or creating celebrity or ordinary pictures of people in a porn scenario
One way that at least the credit card companies are fine with is having a full - fast and immediate take down policy to remove any content that someone finds like that. Lawyers and processing companies can help with that.

we need to pay attention to this since it appears that people are getting tired of vanilla and want to cross the edge by creating images/videos that normally would happen outside of your fantasy.

Trump really has nothing to do with this honestly. He can go only as far as the law will allow but his focus is on other things of more importance to him.

[The Porn Nerd]

I would be more worried if that cackling witch becomes President yo.

[pornlaw]

No politician is a friend to porn.

Every politician is a danger to porn.

In the US, our only friends are Judges that understand and are willing to apply to the Constitution to laws enacted to harm the industry.

But between the two, Trump (who appeared in Playboy, paid pornstars for sex and actually distributed porn in his hotels) is far less scary that a career District Attorney who prosecuted Backpage and pushed for FOSTA-SESTA.

Past behavior is the best indicator for future behavior.

This is why the Democrats are jumping up and down on how Trump wants to be a dictator and some how they believe that Harris is suddenly going to stop being someone that has shown clear animosity to sex workers.

[muze]

Originally Posted by pornlaw

No politician is a friend to porn.

Every politician is a danger to porn.

In the US, our only friends are Judges that understand and are willing to apply to the Constitution to laws enacted to harm the industry.

But between the two, Trump (who appeared in Playboy, paid pornstars for sex and actually distributed porn in his hotels) is far less scary that a career District Attorney who prosecuted Backpage and pushed for FOSTA-SESTA.

Past behavior is the best indicator for future behavior.

Kind of like how Trump was a registered democrat starting in 2001 for eight years prior to his presidency? And prior to that (while he happened to be a registered republican before switching to dems and then switching back), he donated money to Kamala Harris:

"State records show that Trump donated US$6,000 ($9,107) in total to the then-California attorney-general [Kamala Harris]'s campaign — US$5,000 ($7,589) in September 2011 after she was first elected, and another US$1,000 ($1,518) in 2013."

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/...ship/wj85mj5yq

As for Fosta Sesta it was ushered in by the House of Representatives with a vote of 388–25 and the Senate with a vote of 97–2
So you're right about your first point. Every politician is a danger to porn/sex work. Essentially no politician had a problem with that legislation. Far from being only Kamala or the left. Not to mention the bill was signed into law by Trump!

She's also not behind Project 2025 which has language in regards to banning online porn.

Will that happen under a Trump administration? Doubtful that would happen at all under any administration. But as steps are taken to remove certain websites (backpage), criminalizing certain aspects of the industry is possible.

He's got the supreme court in his pocket. What is going on with women's reproductive rights and safety is atrocious.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by pornlaw

But between the two, Trump (who appeared in Playboy, paid pornstars for sex and actually distributed porn in his hotels) is far less scary that a career District Attorney who prosecuted Backpage and pushed for FOSTA-SESTA.

Bingo. Plus already had 4 years of Trump and they did nothing regarding porn.

[INever]

The hoe who sucked Willie to get her start versus the guy who married a prostitute.

[amacontent]

Originally Posted by pornlaw

No politician is a friend to porn.

Every politician is a danger to porn.

In the US, our only friends are Judges that understand and are willing to apply to the Constitution to laws enacted to harm the industry.

But between the two, Trump (who appeared in Playboy, paid pornstars for sex and actually distributed porn in his hotels) is far less scary that a career District Attorney who prosecuted Backpage and pushed for FOSTA-SESTA.

Past behavior is the best indicator for future behavior.

This is why the Democrats are jumping up and down on how Trump wants to be a dictator and some how they believe that Harris is suddenly going to stop being someone that has shown clear animosity to sex workers.

Have you looked at You Tube lately. Its becoming a pedofile website. They are letting 8-9 year old girls dressed like hookers and moms and dads are promoting it. Shaking thier asses wearing next to nothing WTF man

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by amacontent

Have you looked at You Tube lately. Its becoming a pedofile website. They are letting 8-9 year old girls dressed like hookers and moms and dads are promoting it. Shaking thier asses wearing next to nothing WTF man

What?!?!?!?!

I use YouTube all the time and I've never once seen anything inappropriate?

[pornlaw]

Originally Posted by INever

The hoe who sucked Willie to get her start versus the guy who married a prostitute.

Im going with the guy who married the prostitute...

The other one like is a smoker who quits, they always feel the need to lecture those who smoke, complain about the smell of smoke.... and try to stop you from doing it.

[Publisher Bucks]

I’d say another Trump presidency is more likely a threat to global security.

As far as the US goes, if elected he’s going to load the Supreme Court with republican leaning judges… That will have a longer knock-on effect to the US than anything else could do.

[AmeliaG]

Both major party candidates explicitly repudiated Project 2025.

I'm baffled that people keep going on about it.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

I'm baffled that people keep going on about it.

That's what you do when your economy is crap, borders are wide open, multiple wars going on, and have no policies except "Trump is Hitler."

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks

I’d say another Trump presidency is more likely a threat to global security.

I remember when they said that Trump was going to start WWIII.

[Publisher Bucks]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

I remember when they said that Trump was going to start WWIII.

Instead he just organized an uprising in the countries Capitol

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by pornlaw

Every politician is a danger to porn.

That is why I don't get the politics section of the board (except for penning the nutters) . . .

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks

Instead he just organized an uprising in the countries Capitol

I'll take a 2-hour riot that inconvenienced a few politicians vs 6 months of Democrats torching cities, looting, and burning private businesses and property to the tune of 2 billion dollars.

[Publisher Bucks]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

I'll take a 2-hour riot that inconvenienced a few politicians vs 6 months of Democrats torching cities, looting, and burning private businesses and property to the tune of 2 billion dollars.

That '2 hour riot' cost the country over $2.5B.

Not to mention the citizens (not politicians) that were injured and scarred for life.

4 Trump supporters died, although TBF, that is not necessarily a bad thing, less idiots to vote for him this time around.

[King Mark]

That "2 Hour Riot" was the end of a long streak of America being torched under Trump.

Anyway, I'll leave this here:



https://TrumpsProject2025.com

Source: Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 Document: https://www.project2025.org/policy/

Page 5:
"Pornography, manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children, for instance, is not a political Gordian knot inextricably binding up disparate claims about free speech, property rights, sexual liberation, and child welfare. It has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered.

Page 509:
"All digital content providers will be required to implement stringent controls to ensure content deemed obscene is inaccessible to minors, protecting their moral development.

Page 510:
Obscene content, which undermines traditional family values, will be subject to strict scrutiny and regulation under new federal guidelines.







“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

― George Orwell, 1984

It has already started, with the AV laws: https://action.freespeechcoalition.c...ication-bills/



These States all have one thing in common, and it ain't exactly being filled with Kamala supporters.

The cult is real...

I can understand being Fiscally Conservative in the Socially Progressive adult industry, but voting for Social Conservatism/Christian Nationalism in the Socially Progressive adult industry makes zero sense (unless you're in a suicide cult) and is just:



Larry Flynt didn't survive that bullet just for them to infiltrate the industry and divide and conquer it with hateful rhetoric.

Any more questions?

[The Porn Nerd]

"...protecting their moral development..."

Classic.

[Major Tom Thanks Duke]

Originally Posted by King Mark

That "2 Hour Riot" was the end of a long streak of America being torched under Trump.

Anyway, I'll leave this here:



https://TrumpsProject2025.com

Source: Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 Document: https://www.project2025.org/policy/

Page 5:
"Pornography, manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children, for instance, is not a political Gordian knot inextricably binding up disparate claims about free speech, property rights, sexual liberation, and child welfare. It has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered.

Page 509:
"All digital content providers will be required to implement stringent controls to ensure content deemed obscene is inaccessible to minors, protecting their moral development.

Page 510:
Obscene content, which undermines traditional family values, will be subject to strict scrutiny and regulation under new federal guidelines.







“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

― George Orwell, 1984

It has already started, with the AV laws: https://action.freespeechcoalition.c...ication-bills/



These States all have one thing in common, and it ain't exactly being filled with Kamala supporters.

The cult is real...

I can understand being Fiscally Conservative in the Socially Progressive adult industry, but voting for Social Conservatism/Christian Nationalism in the Socially Progressive adult industry makes zero sense (unless you're in a suicide cult) and is just:



Larry Flynt didn't survive that bullet just for them to infiltrate the industry and divide and conquer it with hateful rhetoric.

Any more questions?

STFU WITH THAT SHIT.
As Amelia said, both candidates repudiated it, trunk the hardest of all.
YOU ARE NOT IN THE ADULT INDUSTRY.

Lastly STFU

[Major Tom Thanks Duke]

Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks

That '2 hour riot' cost the country over $2.5B.

Not to mention the citizens (not politicians) that were injured and scarred for life.

4 Trump supporters died, although TBF, that is not necessarily a bad thing, less idiots to vote for him this time around.

You’re unhinged

[King Mark]

Originally Posted by Major Tom Thanks Duke

STFU WITH THAT SHIT.
As Amelia said, both candidates repudiated it, trunk the hardest of all.
YOU ARE NOT IN THE ADULT INDUSTRY.

Lastly STFU

Care to debunk anything posted? I understand if you can't, but at least answer this:

True or False: Trump is a known liar.

Try to contain your Trump induced White Rage for 2 seconds and answer honestly, just True or False.

[Major Tom Thanks Duke]

Originally Posted by King Mark

Care to debunk anything posted? I understand if you can't, but at least answer this:

True or False: Trump is a known liar.

Answer honestly, just true or false.

I have 100 times.
Trumps cabinet? His former cabinet? Trump is not in office

[King Mark]

You scared of your truth bro? 🤣 You can't just say True or False?

[Major Tom Thanks Duke]

Originally Posted by King Mark

You scared of your truth bro? 🤣 You can't just say True or False?

You are not in the industry. Go back to reddit

[pornlaw]

FSC v Texas will be heard in the Spring 2025.

The decision should be published late June or early July.

If they uphold the Texas law, well we are all fucked. AVS will spread like a fungus with bilateral support from both Dems and Republicans. These bills are already getting bilateral support.

If FSC wins, most of these AVS laws will either be invalidated or will not be enforced, depending on the language of the bill.

If FSC wins it will be impossible for anyone to ban or outlaw porn if AVS is declared unconstitutional.

[INever]

First of all they're all puppets.

From a business perspective, who gives a fuck. Host offshore.

The squeeze play is in the payment processing. Though there are ways.

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by pornlaw

FSC v Texas will be heard in the Spring 2025.

The decision should be published late June or early July.

If they uphold the Texas law, well we are all fucked. AVS will spread like a fungus with bilateral support from both Dems and Republicans. These bills are already getting bilateral support.

If FSC wins, most of these AVS laws will either be invalidated or will not be enforced, depending on the language of the bill.

If FSC wins it will be impossible for anyone to ban or outlaw porn if AVS is declared unconstitutional.

I guess you weren't around the last time AVS was a big thing. I made major bank off of it.

You see a disaster, I see an opportunity.

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

I guess you weren't around the last time AVS was a big thing. I made major bank off of it.

You see a disaster, I see an opportunity.

SexKey $15 sign ups were insane!!!

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

I guess you weren't around the last time AVS was a big thing. I made major bank off of it.

You see a disaster, I see an opportunity.

It wasn't the law back then. It's just the way a lot of people did business.

There's a big difference between an actual opportunity, and the government telling me what the only opportunity is.

[pornlaw]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

I guess you weren't around the last time AVS was a big thing. I made major bank off of it.

You see a disaster, I see an opportunity.

Sure I can see that.

I can also see a extremely reduced industry where there are only a few platforms that make billions and they handle AVS "in-house."

We follow the music industry. They got decimated by copyright infringement and later so did we.

Music is now down to a few platforms to distribute music who make the lions share and most of the artist make nothing.

This is OFs business model.

So we will see. You might have a temporary opportunity but it will not last if Texas wins.

[Tasty1]

US adult movie industry worried stiff over Harris’ anti-porn crusade, saying loads to come

An American porn star is raising fears over vice-president-elect Kamala Harris’ history of pounding the industry, saying they are “terrified” of what’s to come.

In a crunching opinion piece published by the Daily Beast, adult film star Cherie DeVille laid bare why many in the adult industry are worried stiff about the election of Harris, saying she will bring a “lifetime of animosity toward sex workers” to the White House.

The veteran adult actress says porn stars have been raising concerns about Harris since her time as San Francisco district attorney from 2004 to 2011.

DeVille blasted Harris for opposing a San Francisco ballot initiative to legalize prostitution and for trying to prosecute the owners of a classified ad website.

She says the US Vice-President-elect continued her crusade when elected to the Senate, resulting in legislation that anyone who posts an online sex work ad can now be jailed.

“In the name of protecting women, Harris has pushed sex workers back onto dangerous street corners.”

‘Visa and Mastercard dictate what porn they want‘
DeVille explained that porn performers’ fears are compounded by the fact that credit card companies have poured massive funding into Biden’s presidential bid.

The adult actress fingered Visa and Mastercard, saying the twosome is one of the sector’s “biggest adversaries,” effectively deciding what porn is allowed to be released.

“Few Americans realize Visa and Mastercard dictate what porn they want. For instance, I refer to myself in precise language when I market my legal adult videos because the credit card companies enforce strict rules. Even though I only produce legal videos up to code, credit card companies decide their regulations.”

The situation is compounded by Facebook policies that censor legal content, DeVille says.

The Silicon Valley behemoth has a near-monopoly in the realm and the incoming Biden administration has deep connections with the Mark Zuckerberg-owned company, including hiring many of its former lobbyists and executives.

“It’s disheartening because Facebook is worse than cable companies. They control what we see, and they’re a monopoly. That’s frightening. Nobody knows this better than the sex workers that Facebook censors.”

https://www.thesouthafrican.com/life...loads-to-come/

[2intense]

why? he loves sluts! paid or free.

[Major Tom Thanks Duke]

Originally Posted by Tasty1

US adult movie industry worried stiff over Harris’ anti-porn crusade, saying loads to come

An American porn star is raising fears over vice-president-elect Kamala Harris’ history of pounding the industry, saying they are “terrified” of what’s to come.

In a crunching opinion piece published by the Daily Beast, adult film star Cherie DeVille laid bare why many in the adult industry are worried stiff about the election of Harris, saying she will bring a “lifetime of animosity toward sex workers” to the White House.

The veteran adult actress says porn stars have been raising concerns about Harris since her time as San Francisco district attorney from 2004 to 2011.

DeVille blasted Harris for opposing a San Francisco ballot initiative to legalize prostitution and for trying to prosecute the owners of a classified ad website.

She says the US Vice-President-elect continued her crusade when elected to the Senate, resulting in legislation that anyone who posts an online sex work ad can now be jailed.

“In the name of protecting women, Harris has pushed sex workers back onto dangerous street corners.”

‘Visa and Mastercard dictate what porn they want‘
DeVille explained that porn performers’ fears are compounded by the fact that credit card companies have poured massive funding into Biden’s presidential bid.

The adult actress fingered Visa and Mastercard, saying the twosome is one of the sector’s “biggest adversaries,” effectively deciding what porn is allowed to be released.

“Few Americans realize Visa and Mastercard dictate what porn they want. For instance, I refer to myself in precise language when I market my legal adult videos because the credit card companies enforce strict rules. Even though I only produce legal videos up to code, credit card companies decide their regulations.”

The situation is compounded by Facebook policies that censor legal content, DeVille says.

The Silicon Valley behemoth has a near-monopoly in the realm and the incoming Biden administration has deep connections with the Mark Zuckerberg-owned company, including hiring many of its former lobbyists and executives.

“It’s disheartening because Facebook is worse than cable companies. They control what we see, and they’re a monopoly. That’s frightening. Nobody knows this better than the sex workers that Facebook censors.”

https://www.thesouthafrican.com/life...loads-to-come/

Everyone forgets “operation choke point” under Braxis Husseinz Obamaz

[DBS.US]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Both major party candidates explicitly repudiated Project 2025.

I'm baffled that people keep going on about it.

Brainwashed sheep

[Retiree]

Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks

I’d say another Trump presidency is more likely a threat to global security.

Is this some kind of irony? The world has never been in a bigger mess than in the past 4 years. 4 more years of this clown show and we will get a nuclear war.

[Retiree]

Neither candidate will do anything about porn. First, they can't even if they wanted to. Second, Trump is a big porn lover and Kamala had a long career as a prostitute, so both are an important part of the industry.

[King Mark]

"Vote for Trump or else Putin is going to use Nukes!"

Y'all can get extorted if you want, us normal people ain't going for it.

[Major Tom Thanks Duke]

Originally Posted by King Mark

"Vote for Trump or else Putin is going to use Nukes!"

Y'all can get extorted if you want, us normal people ain't going for it.

How is the world right now? You know none of this shit would be happening under trump.

[Major Tom Thanks Duke]

Originally Posted by Retiree

Neither candidate will do anything about porn. First, they can't even if they wanted to. Second, Trump is a big porn lover and Kamala had a long career as a prostitute, so both are an important part of the industry.

Yup this. Heels up won’t do shite and neither will don don

[Major Tom Thanks Duke]

Originally Posted by DBS.US

Brainwashed sheep

She is 100% right and she has a well thought out opinion based in FACT

[Major Tom Thanks Duke]

Originally Posted by 2intense

why? he loves sluts! paid or free.

As one does haha

[Major Tom Thanks Duke]

Originally Posted by pornlaw

Sure I can see that.

I can also see a extremely reduced industry where there are only a few platforms that make billions and they handle AVS "in-house."

We follow the music industry. They got decimated by copyright infringement and later so did we.

Music is now down to a few platforms to distribute music who make the lions share and most of the artist make nothing.

This is OFs business model.

So we will see. You might have a temporary opportunity but it will not last if Texas wins.

“Billions”

[V_RocKs]

Trump is not connected to project 2025. He is, however, connected to another think tank. America First Policy Institute. They aren't going to ban porn, yet. But they are very connected to Trump. Their board is made up of people Trump has already said he would add to his cabinet, advisory team and transition team.

[Major Tom Thanks Duke]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Trump is not connected to project 2025. He is, however, connected to another think tank. America First Policy Institute. They aren't going to ban porn, yet. But they are very connected to Trump. Their board is made up of people Trump has already said he would add to his cabinet, advisory team and transition team.

King Mark, do you hear this on your floating pile of garbage?

So a new villain just dropped?

Porn will never be banned. It will become regulated. That will probably work out good for us because we’re big enough to eat the costs associated with it, and small enough to manage it.
Now do tube sites. Hopefully they come crashing down. Imo they are not in the the porn industry. Paysites and producers and hoars are.

[Ironhorse]

Trump himself will be too busy to worry about porn in the 4 years he has left. The concern is his presidency could usher in a conservative movement that if unchecked will absolutely go after porn in their sexually regressive and repressed ideology.

[King Mark]

I don't know if yall realize how old Trump is, but this is a set up for President Vance the way it was set up for President Kamala.

Ever looked up Vance's own words on porn?

The cult is real...