Is Backlinking Structure Important?

[mopek1]

Is it still a thing to do the:

GSA Spam Comments --> Web 2.0 --> Personal PBN --> Money Site ?

Meaning is that considered a good SEO practice?

Or do you just throw as many links as you can (Web 2.0 and better) at your site and get volume, while trying to obviously target high quality.

[TheLegacy]

Throwing a bunch of backlinks is not a good idea - first that they may have lower domain authority - secondly they likely will have spam

A careful choice of backlinks is important. Happy to talk further if you want if you message me on skype

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

Throwing a bunch of backlinks is not a good idea - first that they may have lower domain authority - secondly they likely will have spam

A careful choice of backlinks is important. Happy to talk further if you want if you message me on skype

Thanks. I may take you up on the Skype offer.

I understand what you said. I guess I should have clarified and said that many of the bigger sites I see get backlinks from high DA sites, but also lower DA (not spammy though) and everything in between. It seems like they all point to the money site.

In contrast, many others in aff marketing talk about that first structure I mentioned where you build depth until it reaches your money site.

[mrmister]

Just look at how other sites are operating

For instance a brand new domain you probably won't get away with throwing a bunch of links at it too quickly. Link velocity is a thing

If your site is aged then maybe you will. Not sure Google penalises bad links anymore. Rather they just don't count. Don't quote me though but would easy to do a negative SEO attack on your competitor if that was the case

I think adult has different rules to the rest. Ive seen sites rank well with a bunch of spammy links it's luck of the draw.

Look at theporndude. 22k refering domains. A lot of them are probably crap but I'm guessing his site has the authority to cope for it

[WiredGuy]

I'd just cut the GSA spam comments in your flow chart and work on getting quality web 2.0 links. Upload good quality content to web 2.0, then follow/like similar niches. I tend to believe that a good following base to 2.0 websites is just as valuable as backlinks.
WG

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by mrmister

Look at theporndude. 22k refering domains. A lot of them are probably crap but I'm guessing his site has the authority to cope for it

How does he get authority without backlinks? Is it traffic?

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I'd just cut the GSA spam comments in your flow chart and work on getting quality web 2.0 links. Upload good quality content to web 2.0, then follow/like similar niches. I tend to believe that a good following base to 2.0 websites is just as valuable as backlinks.
WG

Thanks for your input.

Tumblr and Blogger allow text but not images for adult niches (unless they are porn-looking images without nudity? Just a guess. I don't use images anymore so I don't get banned). Any other web 2.0 properties that allow adult, and have enough traffic on them?

[WiredGuy]

Originally Posted by mopek1

Thanks for your input.

Tumblr and Blogger allow text but not images for adult niches (unless they are porn-looking images without nudity? Just a guess. I don't use images anymore so I don't get banned). Any other web 2.0 properties that allow adult, and have enough traffic on them?

Based on the flow chart you mapped, you don't actually need adult content, it can be any content (ie: memes, cat pics, food, etc.). From your web 2.0 pages, add any content you like and then link to your PBN and then to your money site.
WG

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by mopek1

How does he get authority without backlinks? Is it traffic?

Uhh he has a fuckton of backlinks.

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

Uhh he has a fuckton of backlinks.

Yeah, my bad. I read the other poster's reply above as "22k links" when it was 22k domains. He has 277 million links.

[$5 submissions]

Given the brutal September update and subsequent updates, focus on link quality instead of quantity

Word on the SEO street is Google has a massive game changer update rolling out in 2024

I hope it's not as devastating as Panda and Penguin

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by $5 submissions

Word on the SEO street is Google has a massive game changer update rolling out in 2024

So the copy/paste "authority sites" will get more, and everyone else will have to write more and better "helpful" content.

Oh, and I thought September - November was a game changer already.

[cordoba]

Is having a simple partner's page of link exchanges any use at all? Apparently, it goes against Google's good link-building practices, but most of my rivals in my niche have them.

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

Throwing a bunch of backlinks is not a good idea - first that they may have lower domain authority - secondly they likely will have spam

A careful choice of backlinks is important. Happy to talk further if you want if you message me on skype

I'd ignore this. Clearly doesn't understand the question.

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I'd just cut the GSA spam comments in your flow chart and work on getting quality web 2.0 links. Upload good quality content to web 2.0, then follow/like similar niches. I tend to believe that a good following base to 2.0 websites is just as valuable as backlinks.
WG

This is what I do in a nutshell.

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by trevesty

This is what I do in a nutshell. [Web 2.0 links]

Which web 2.0 platforms do you use and recommend?

[Mr Pheer]

Is GSA still a thing?

[NoWhErE]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Is GSA still a thing?

Not really

[NoWhErE]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I'd just cut the GSA spam comments in your flow chart and work on getting quality web 2.0 links. Upload good quality content to web 2.0, then follow/like similar niches. I tend to believe that a good following base to 2.0 websites is just as valuable as backlinks.
WG

Out of curiosity, do you buy your web 2.0 properties or have some sort of structure in place to build them?

In my experience its a time consuming effort that can be a total waste of time if not done right

[mrmister]

ok can someone enlighten me to what the hell web 2.0 properties are? Sounds like I'm living in 2010.

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by mrmister

ok can someone enlighten me to what the hell web 2.0 properties are? Sounds like I'm living in 2010.

They didn't really get popular till 2012.

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by mrmister

ok can someone enlighten me to what the hell web 2.0 properties are? Sounds like I'm living in 2010.

Web 2.0 properties from my understanding are; blogs from tumblr, blogspot, weebly (+ thousands more), a reddit sub, a FB or Twitter page etc... in other words social media properties.

You build them up, meaning have lots of followers and likes (links to the property), and then link out to your own sites.

The risk is that years of work and can be deleted in seconds by some moody employee or a sudden change ("in order to serve you better,") in policy.

[mrmister]

Originally Posted by mopek1

Web 2.0 properties from my understanding are; blogs from tumblr, blogspot, weebly (+ thousands more), a reddit sub, a FB or Twitter page etc... in other words social media properties.

You build them up, meaning have lots of followers and likes (links to the property), and then link out to your own sites.

The risk is that years of work and can be deleted in seconds by some moody employee or a sudden change ("in order to serve you better,") in policy.

Aren't they usually no follow though?

[WiredGuy]

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

Out of curiosity, do you buy your web 2.0 properties or have some sort of structure in place to build them?

In my experience its a time consuming effort that can be a total waste of time if not done right

I build everything myself.

Its extremely time consuming and very delicate, one wrong move can get the account terminated. If done right, its a great source of traffic, has the ability to go viral as other people share/like your content, and shows to Google natural and organic growth.
WG

[WiredGuy]

Originally Posted by mrmister

Aren't they usually no follow though?

A lot of web 2.0 sites are nofollow, but a lot of them allow for customizing the html template or footer/headers and those are dofollow (blog platforms mostly). Even if its nofollow, there is a social metric that is valuable to have and is quite meaningful to Google.
WG

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

(blog platforms mostly).
WG

Do you recommend any besides Tumblr and Blogspot that actually have traffic?

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by mopek1

Do you recommend any besides Tumblr and Blogspot that actually have traffic?

It isn't about the traffic you may or may not generate from these properties. As soon as you get this ridiculous idea out of your head, you will start to do marginally better with SEO.

[WiredGuy]

Originally Posted by mopek1

Do you recommend any besides Tumblr and Blogspot that actually have traffic?

Its more about the backlink than the traffic. Tumblr for all intensive purposes is a dead site, but its a do-follow link from a good DA site. Even if 0 people come to the site from Tumblr, its a valuable signal to Google.
WG

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Its more about the backlink than the traffic. Tumblr for all intensive purposes is a dead site, but its a do-follow link from a good DA site. Even if 0 people come to the site from Tumblr, its a valuable signal to Google.
WG

Perhaps there should be a Master List of sites that offer quality backlinks so we can all submit there and get that sweet, sweet SEO Google juice.

PS: I wonder if I started calling all my cumshots 'Google juice' if that would help me rank higher. I mean, it has the word 'goo' in there right?

[mrmister]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Perhaps there should be a Master List of sites that offer quality backlinks so we can all submit there and get that sweet, sweet SEO Google juice.

PS: I wonder if I started calling all my cumshots 'Google juice' if that would help me rank higher. I mean, it has the word 'goo' in there right?

There's thousands of sites with quality backlinks

Essentially any site that gets a decent amount of SEO traffic is worth it in my experience. Use semrush.

A site that gets non is worthless. If it doesn't rank for anything why would it help you rank?

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by trevesty

It isn't about the traffic you may or may not generate from these properties. As soon as you get this ridiculous idea out of your head, you will start to do marginally better with SEO.

See my answer to Wired Guy below.

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Its more about the backlink than the traffic. Tumblr for all intensive purposes is a dead site, but its a do-follow link from a good DA site. Even if 0 people come to the site from Tumblr, its a valuable signal to Google.
WG

I guess what I meant was ... if a blogging social media site has traffic (lots of users), then your created blog on that platform will hopefully generate lots of followers, with lots of likes and reblogs which are backlinks to that web 2.0 property of yours, which are signals of importance to Google. so it may value your web 2.0 blog higher than other web 2.0 blogs.

Otherwise, why not hire someone to create 1000 different accounts across many web 2.0 properties with an article, and a hardlink in the article to your PBN or money site?

[mrmister]

Originally Posted by mopek1

I guess what I meant was ... if a blogging social media site has traffic (lots of users), then your created blog on that platform will hopefully generate lots of followers, with lots of likes and reblogs which are backlinks to that web 2.0 property of yours, which are signals of importance to Google. so it may value your web 2.0 blog higher than other web 2.0 blogs.

Otherwise, why not hire someone to create 1000 different accounts across many web 2.0 properties with an article, and a hardlink in the article to your PBN or money site?

Google would probably see that as unnatural. Especially if it came really quickly. The only sites that get that sort of traction are the big sites really. So for bigcocks.xyz or some shit they would probably just think it's a paid for campaign

[mrmister]

There's a webcam site in my niche which is number 1-3 for all search terms. His site is from 2018 and his sub pages are ranking higher than my site

His script is basic and design is poor. He's had this ranking for four years

How has he done this? His ahrefs backlink checker shows no links apart from the usual scraper sites

Semrush says they have 15 refering domains

[WiredGuy]

Originally Posted by mrmister

There's a webcam site in my niche which is number 1-3 for all search terms. His site is from 2018 and his sub pages are ranking higher than my site

His script is basic and design is poor. He's had this ranking for four years

How has he done this? His ahrefs backlink checker shows no links apart from the usual scraper sites

Semrush says they have 15 refering domains

Can you share the url or DM me?
WG

[WiredGuy]

Originally Posted by mopek1

Otherwise, why not hire someone to create 1000 different accounts across many web 2.0 properties with an article, and a hardlink in the article to your PBN or money site?

The article should be slightly different to avoid duplicate content, but it does work to get web 2.0 sites ranked well.
WG

[mrmister]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Can you share the url or DM me?
WG

Sure I will do

[WiredGuy]

Originally Posted by mrmister

Sure I will do

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by mopek1

I guess what I meant was ... if a blogging social media site has traffic (lots of users), then your created blog on that platform will hopefully generate lots of followers, with lots of likes and reblogs which are backlinks to that web 2.0 property of yours, which are signals of importance to Google. so it may value your web 2.0 blog higher than other web 2.0 blogs.

Otherwise, why not hire someone to create 1000 different accounts across many web 2.0 properties with an article, and a hardlink in the article to your PBN or money site?

None of what you're saying is a bad thing necessarily. The 1,000 different accounts may be overkill depending(how quickly were they created / link to PBN or money site added, unique article(s), etc).

My point is that these aren't KPIs you should concern yourself with for this goal. If you make 10 Web 2.0 properties linking to your PBN / money site / whatever method you decide to use and 2 of them become insanely popular (relatively speaking) then that's just a bonus, but don't focus on it. It's about the back link. Any other benefits you gain are merely a bonus, not a goal.

[$5 submissions]

Rule of thumb: the page you're linking to must add value to the page you're linking from

[emmasexytime]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Perhaps there should be a Master List of sites that offer quality backlinks so we can all submit there and get that sweet, sweet SEO Google juice.

PS: I wonder if I started calling all my cumshots 'Google juice' if that would help me rank higher. I mean, it has the word 'goo' in there right?

SOME... are quality
https://nichepornsites.com/the-compl...of-porn-lists/

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Tumblr for all intensive purposes is a dead site, but its a do-follow link from a good DA site. Even if 0 people come to the site from Tumblr, its a valuable signal to Google.
WG

Do you use your time to update your Tumblr blog regularly? Or do you just create an account, write one article with a dofollow backlink to your PBN, then move on to create another account and rinse and repeat?

[WiredGuy]

Originally Posted by mopek1

Do you use your time to update your Tumblr blog regularly? Or do you just create an account, write one article with a dofollow backlink to your PBN, then move on to create another account and rinse and repeat?

Publish and forget it doesn't really work on web 2.0 sites.
WG

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Publish and forget it doesn't really work on web 2.0 sites.
WG

Okay, so you have to work your web 2.0 blog as you would a website that you own, with regular updated quality content, so Google sees it as a valuable ink source.

Thanks.

[WiredGuy]

Originally Posted by mopek1

Okay, so you have to work your web 2.0 blog as you would a website that you own, with regular updated quality content, so Google sees it as a valuable ink source.

Thanks.

There are scheduling tools and apps that will help you post content on a regular basis so you don't need to login every day to each platform.
WG

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

There are scheduling tools and apps that will help you post content on a regular basis so you don't need to login every day to each platform.
WG

Thanks. I'll have to look into those. If I created 20 web 2.0 properties and needed to update them daily then yeah, I'd need some automation.