Did they have AVN in a Tent ? - GoFuckYourself.com

amacontent · 01-24-2024, 09:50 AM

DId I hear that right?

CaptainHowdy · 01-24-2024, 10:05 AM

A wiseman once wrote "nothing good can come out of a tent" :P . . .

BAKO · 01-24-2024, 11:16 AM

Who knows

Robbie · 01-24-2024, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent

DId I hear that right?

Yep. They stuck them in a big tent.

AVN needs to get away from Resorts World. Horrible place.

I'll say it again...Move it to Circa on Fremont Street. Lots of fun things to do AND tons of foot traffic that could and would equate to ticket sales on the day of show.

RyuLion · 01-24-2024, 09:12 PM

Who told you that? lol
NOPE! tons of porn stars, it's been a busy show for me so far!

Mr Pheer · 01-24-2024, 09:32 PM

It wouldn't surprise me. It's been going downhill for years.

Mr Pheer · 01-24-2024, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Yep. They stuck them in a big tent.

AVN needs to get away from Resorts World. Horrible place.

I'll say it again...Move it to Circa on Fremont Street. Lots of fun things to do AND tons of foot traffic that could and would equate to ticket sales on the day of show.

Imagine these guys on Fremont Street

As if Fremont isn't a big enough circus already

Huggles · 01-24-2024, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RyuLion

Who told you that? lol
NOPE! tons of porn stars, it's been a busy show for me so far!

Ryu, let's not let this thread become too pessimistic... how is the event? Can you share some pics?

We should be cheering on the adult industry!

Robbie · 01-25-2024, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RyuLion

Who told you that? lol
NOPE! tons of porn stars, it's been a busy show for me so far!

Alex you do realize that the show is in a huge white tent setup outside the casino don't you?
It's not a bad setup. But it's just that Resorts World is horrible and are treating AVN disrespectfully in my opinion.

This show deserves a much better venue. I still can't figure out why they ever chose Resorts World in the first place.

MaDalton · 01-25-2024, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Imagine these guys on Fremont Street

As if Fremont isn't a big enough circus already

In my very first trip to Vegas I stayed at the El Cortez and spent New Years Eve on Fremont Street.

And I loved it.

I don't know about the "ballers" in the business with their secret private dinners but for the porn people per se, this would definitely be the better place

Mr Pheer · 01-25-2024, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

In my very first trip to Vegas I stayed at the El Cortez and spent New Years Eve on Fremont Street.

And I loved it.

I don't know about the "ballers" in the business with their secret private dinners but for the porn people per se, this would definitely be the better place

I know nothing of the secret private dinners

If they released the "porn stars" and webmasters on Fremont street, I just may have to make the 15 minute drive to go watch.

brassmonkey · 01-25-2024, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Alex you do realize that the show is in a huge white tent setup outside the casino don't you?
It's not a bad setup. But it's just that Resorts World is horrible and are treating AVN disrespectfully in my opinion.

This show deserves a much better venue. I still can't figure out why they ever chose Resorts World in the first place.

they have banquet halls big ones. they have kitchen and restrooms

fuzebox · 01-25-2024, 04:44 AM

Certainly appears so.

https://twitter.com/wugiwil/status/1750178285261332578

Robbie · 01-25-2024, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

I know nothing of the secret private dinners

If they released the "porn stars" and webmasters on Fremont street, I just may have to make the 15 minute drive to go watch.

The porn stars mostly live here in Vegas already and go to Fremont partying anyway. We are always partying up and down Fremont.

AVN is missing out on so much foot traffic there on Fremont it's just crazy.
Plus...The Circa requires ID and you have to be 21 years old to even get into the resort. No kids or families.

brassmonkey · 01-25-2024, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Certainly appears so.

https://twitter.com/wugiwil/status/1750178285261332578

building tents...

not what i was expecting... that is a nice spread!

CurrentlySober · 01-25-2024, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

A wiseman once wrote "nothing good can come out of a tent" :P . . .

& a great philosopher once wrote 'Naughty, Naughty, very Naughty'... But then you dont see me going around quoting the Shamen, do you?

The Porn Nerd · 01-25-2024, 12:55 PM

Reminds me of the homeless and migrant encampments in LA and New York.

Classy.

Huggles · 01-25-2024, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Reminds me of the homeless and migrant encampments in LA and New York.

Classy.

Shots fired...

JesseQuinn · 01-25-2024, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

Certainly appears so.

https://twitter.com/wugiwil/status/1750178285261332578

wow, just...wow

I'm a scrub and do not give a fuck about 'fancy' stuff in any way but for a major industry event?

it totally looks like the Sheriff Arpaio-era tent city jail

hopefully inside it's awesome, no doubt it is. and I'm sure these events are quite difficult to put together so not criticizing (honestly). it's just the pics in the link were funny

what a way to present an industry event. ultimately though, it's what's inside that matters

have fun (and get some biz done) to everyone who's there!

Huggles · 01-25-2024, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn

it totally looks like the Sheriff Arpaio-era tent city jail

NYRangers · 01-25-2024, 05:38 PM

Based on previous reading I was guessing it was the tent at Circus Circus.

brassmonkey · 01-25-2024, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JesseQuinn

wow, just...wow

I'm a scrub and do not give a fuck about 'fancy' stuff in any way but for a major industry event?

it totally looks like the Sheriff Arpaio-era tent city jail

hopefully inside it's awesome, no doubt it is. and I'm sure these events are quite difficult to put together so not criticizing (honestly). it's just the pics in the link were funny

what a way to present an industry event. ultimately though, it's what's inside that matters

have fun (and get some biz done) to everyone who's there!

what??? he used army surplus....

Robbie · 01-25-2024, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRangers

Based on previous reading I was guessing it was the tent at Circus Circus.

There is no "tent" at Circus Circus lol

It's Circus themed and the building LOOKS like an enormous circus tent. But it's a real building.

What they did at Resorts World is stick the AVN show in an actual giant industrial tent. Ugh.

And I haven't seen any kind of signage on the exterior of Resorts World telling people that AVN is there, and nothing on local television.

Matter of fact the local stations are talking about the huge "World Of Concrete" convention going on at the Convention Center.
Nothing about AVN at all.

brassmonkey · 01-25-2024, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

There is no "tent" at Circus Circus lol

It's Circus themed and the building LOOKS like an enormous circus tent. But it's a real building.

What they did at Resorts World is stick the AVN show in an actual giant industrial tent. Ugh.

And I haven't seen any kind of signage on the exterior of Resorts World telling people that AVN is there, and nothing on local television.

Matter of fact the local stations are talking about the huge "World Of Concrete" convention going on at the Convention Center.
Nothing about AVN at all.

if they paid the same as the other events. get a fucking lawyer.

plsureking · 01-25-2024, 09:05 PM

its a micro industry these days. the OF models rent the penthouses now..

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Huggles · 01-25-2024, 10:14 PM

She's having fun!

https://twitter.com/KittyBaby_Cam

CaptainHowdy · 01-26-2024, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Huggles

The asses are in place so no worries ! !

Tasty1 · 01-26-2024, 11:51 AM

To much poor affiliate webmasters nowadays.
I suggest we reserve an extra piece of land so people can bring their own tent!
Than we create a camping so everyone has a cheap place to stay without resort fees.

I made my appointments and it is still very interesting and great to see people in person.
I am happy i went to ASW and Internext, many people here.

And i agree, it should be at Fremont street, else next year it really will be held on a camping.

Mr Pheer · 01-26-2024, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tasty1

To much poor affiliate webmasters nowadays.
I suggest we reserve an extra piece of land so people can bring their own tent!
Than we create a camping so everyone has a cheap place to stay without resort fees.

I made my appointments and it is still very interesting and great to see people in person.
I am happy i went to ASW and Internext, many people here.

And i agree, it should be at Fremont street, else next year it really will be held on a camping.

I'd actually go if it were on Fremont street. I won't go to the strip for anything.

I haven't even seen the Sphere yet and I only live 20 minutes away.

Strip.... just say no

Robbie · 01-26-2024, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

I'd actually go if it were on Fremont street. I won't go to the strip for anything.

I haven't even seen the Sphere yet and I only live 20 minutes away.

Strip.... just say no

We were over at The 4 Queens Resort on Fremont last evening from 7:30 to 9 p.m. before going over to Resorts World for a couple of drinks, and ran into dozens of people coming up to Claudia Marie and telling us that they were in town attending AVN but were staying on Fremont Street.

Resorts World is supposedly going bankrupt from reports over the last few months locally on the news. And I'm not surprised.
There's NOTHING to do there. The atmosphere and "vibe" is cold. No character or personality to the place.
And EVERYTHING is so goddamned overpriced that it's ridiculous.

plsureking · 01-26-2024, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tasty1

To much poor affiliate webmasters nowadays.
I suggest we reserve an extra piece of land so people can bring their own tent!
Than we create a camping so everyone has a cheap place to stay without resort fees.

I made my appointments and it is still very interesting and great to see people in person.
I am happy i went to ASW and Internext, many people here.

And i agree, it should be at Fremont street, else next year it really will be held on a camping.

a burning man style convention sounds fun. burning man has cabins for high rollers but most people pitch tents in the sand. can't do it in January tho.

then again these fucking shows are just for the vendors and dbags preying on nubes. (other than dating and cams). that stupid fucking banner insulting everybody at the top of the forum is a case in point.

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AmeliaG · 01-27-2024, 07:28 PM

I guess it is technically an industrial tent, but Resorts World has lots of events there, including non-adult ones.

I liked the high ceilings in the space and had a great show.

Folks I know have told me they got kicked out of Circa for basically being too tattooed and sexy, so don't think that would be a fit, although it seems like it should be with the 21+.

Robbie · 01-27-2024, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

I guess it is technically an industrial tent, but Resorts World has lots of events there, including non-adult ones.

I liked the high ceilings in the space and had a great show.

Folks I know have told me they got kicked out of Circa for basically being too tattooed and sexy, so don't think that would be a fit, although it seems like it should be with the 21+.

Amelia, I apologize for not getting over to your booth today.

Christianx · 01-28-2024, 02:37 AM

although it was a tent - it wasn't any different from a regular building. I have been in a few conventions there that were in the tent (the Rock N Roll Marathon for one) as well.

I was surprised at just how small the event was this year comparatively to both previous years AND the Venus Awards in Berlin last October. Chaturbate not being there was strange as they would have been a HUGE booth.

Only Fans (although I bet soon OF management companies will start to have booths haha), Xhamster, Kink, Bangbros, Reality Kings, Xvideos, PornPros, Adulttime - none of them had booths which would have helped the show as well. There was a lack of BDSM and fetish booths as well.

But Naughty America returned to having a booth for the first time in many years. Hook up Hotshot had a cool booth, and both Loyalfans and JustforFans had competing booths.

Putting the Brazzers booth in the dead center was a smart move as the lines for Angela White, Cherie Deville, Abella Danger, Nicolette Shea, and the rest of the their stars stretched for long distances.

Resorts World isnt a terrible casino as its big with lots of places to drink and sit and chat and eat. But the bouncers stopping girls and telling them to put clothes on over and over and over and over again all day every day was sort of annoying. lol

fuzebox · 01-28-2024, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Yep. They stuck them in a big tent.

AVN needs to get away from Resorts World. Horrible place.

I'll say it again...Move it to Circa on Fremont Street. Lots of fun things to do AND tons of foot traffic that could and would equate to ticket sales on the day of show.

You've been talking about having Internext on Fremont for 10+ years at this point, I used to think it was a silly suggestion.

Now I finally agree. With the last strip casinos pushing AVN out (Hard Rock / Virgin, now Resorts World), the rising prices, the overall whitewashing/commercialization/genericifcation/whatever of Vegas strip casinos... I think Internext on Fremont would be a blast

DallasGlitterhorne · 01-28-2024, 05:17 AM

That is disappointing. I was with the circus for 5 years and this is a cheap tent show. The “country buffet tent” started becoming more common and it wasn’t worth being on tour anymore because the cheap tent set up is hard to cope with as a performer. These tents look appropriate for a big BBQ or a pie-eating contest. Avian should probably consider Rocky Point, MX, Palm Springs, or Reno if this is the budget.

escorpio · 01-28-2024, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

if they paid the same as the other events. get a fucking lawyer.

Law soot!

Tasty1 · 01-28-2024, 11:35 AM

I haven't been to Vegas in 12 years, last ones where Venetian and Playboy/Palms.

It looks a little different now. But it doesn't seem to bother the visitors and companies.
With the Award Show there where big lines of people waiting to get in.
Looks like AVN and Internext is best held like now, in 1 building, less webmasters nowadays and the companies we promote are on the showfloor and hotelbar.
Also was easy that the party's where in the same building.
And people could go outside easily for a smoke out of the chaos of the showfloor.

The biggest problems where the toilets! There where no toilets.
You had to go outside, past the entrance for the first toilet.
And than go back through security and entrance through the crowds.
Or do it the Dutch way and piss against the wall somewhere.

AVN will evaluate and look for all options. I heard Circa would be too small to host an Award.
If it takes another 12 years before i return we might be back at the Venetian.
Could be even an AIVN Show without real models

AmeliaG · 01-28-2024, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Amelia, I apologize for not getting over to your booth today.

Glad I at least got to see you for a hot minute

JesseQuinn · 01-28-2024, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

...

I saw the pics you posted. you have quite possibly the nicest, warmest smile ever. sorry Ryu but you've been topped in that regard, or perhaps a two-way tie?

so glad you had fun AG, and no doubt got some wicked biz done too

hope you won the well-deserved award in your sig

CurrentlySober · 01-28-2024, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tasty1

The biggest problems where the toilets! There where no toilets.

Personally, I'd consider that to be a bonus!

A tent full of people all pissing and shitting themselves? Fuck me, I'd PAY to attend that show

AmeliaG · 01-28-2024, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn

I saw the pics you posted. you have quite possibly the nicest, warmest smile ever. sorry Ryu but you've been topped in that regard, or perhaps a two-way tie?

so glad you had fun AG, and no doubt got some wicked biz done too

hope you won the well-deserved award in your sig

Doh! I did win. I severely need to update my sig. Thanks for the reminder and the kind words.

AmeliaG · 01-28-2024, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Personally, I'd consider that to be a bonus!

A tent full of people all pissing and shitting themselves? Fuck me, I'd PAY to attend that show

Wasn't as poo-citing as you might hope.

Huggles · 01-28-2024, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Personally, I'd consider that to be a bonus!

A tent full of people all pissing and shitting themselves? Fuck me, I'd PAY to attend that show

Hahahahah you sick bastard...

badgirlfilms · 01-28-2024, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Yep. They stuck them in a big tent.

AVN needs to get away from Resorts World. Horrible place.

I'll say it again...Move it to Circa on Fremont Street. Lots of fun things to do AND tons of foot traffic that could and would equate to ticket sales on the day of show.

I agree!!!!
Resorts World was NOT the place for this type of show

badgirlfilms · 01-28-2024, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

In my very first trip to Vegas I stayed at the El Cortez and spent New Years Eve on Fremont Street.

And I loved it.

I don't know about the "ballers" in the business with their secret private dinners but for the porn people per se, this would definitely be the better place

I live in the white hi rise across street from El Cortez ( the Ogden) I hear this wild stuff every night..but I love it.

escorpio · 01-29-2024, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by badgirlfilms

I live in the white hi rise across street from El Cortez ( the Ogden) I hear this wild stuff every night..but I love it.

That's pretty awesome.

Tasty1 · 01-29-2024, 11:33 AM

I missed a lot of people i see now on the pictures.
Cause i didn't knew they where there, or they didn't stop at the Internext seats / hotel bar.
And some i didn't recognize immediately after all those years.

Mr Pheer, not going to the show while he lives 20 minutes away? That is just stupid.

CurrentlySober · 01-29-2024, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Wasn't as poo-citing as you might hope.

Nothing ever is, unfortunately...

marcop · 02-05-2024, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Alex you do realize that the show is in a huge white tent setup outside the casino don't you?
It's not a bad setup. But it's just that Resorts World is horrible and are treating AVN disrespectfully in my opinion.

This show deserves a much better venue. I still can't figure out why they ever chose Resorts World in the first place.

Sic transit gloria mundi... I went to every AVN show and awards from 2000 to 2006, and only stopped because the shows were getting kinda shitty. Been a few times since 2012, and the quality of the shows has been erratic.

If anyone is interested, I have photos of when I took my cat to the shows (AVN and others) from 2001 on... they're here: Adventures!

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01-26-2024, 11:51 AM	#28
Tasty1 Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South-America Posts: 8,939	To much poor affiliate webmasters nowadays. I suggest we reserve an extra piece of land so people can bring their own tent! Than we create a camping so everyone has a cheap place to stay without resort fees. I made my appointments and it is still very interesting and great to see people in person. I am happy i went to ASW and Internext, many people here. And i agree, it should be at Fremont street, else next year it really will be held on a camping. __________________ everything is fake

01-27-2024, 07:28 PM	#32
AmeliaG Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,417	I guess it is technically an industrial tent, but Resorts World has lots of events there, including non-adult ones. I liked the high ceilings in the space and had a great show. Folks I know have told me they got kicked out of Circa for basically being too tattooed and sexy, so don't think that would be a fit, although it seems like it should be with the 21+. __________________ Blue Blood's SpookyCash.com Babe photography portfolio

01-28-2024, 02:37 AM	#34
Christianx Rubber Duck Collector Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 144	although it was a tent - it wasn't any different from a regular building. I have been in a few conventions there that were in the tent (the Rock N Roll Marathon for one) as well. I was surprised at just how small the event was this year comparatively to both previous years AND the Venus Awards in Berlin last October. Chaturbate not being there was strange as they would have been a HUGE booth. Only Fans (although I bet soon OF management companies will start to have booths haha), Xhamster, Kink, Bangbros, Reality Kings, Xvideos, PornPros, Adulttime - none of them had booths which would have helped the show as well. There was a lack of BDSM and fetish booths as well. But Naughty America returned to having a booth for the first time in many years. Hook up Hotshot had a cool booth, and both Loyalfans and JustforFans had competing booths. Putting the Brazzers booth in the dead center was a smart move as the lines for Angela White, Cherie Deville, Abella Danger, Nicolette Shea, and the rest of the their stars stretched for long distances. Resorts World isnt a terrible casino as its big with lots of places to drink and sit and chat and eat. But the bouncers stopping girls and telling them to put clothes on over and over and over and over again all day every day was sort of annoying. lol __________________ WWW.PUREMEDIAENTERPRISES.COM

01-28-2024, 05:17 AM	#36
DallasGlitterhorne Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 20	That is disappointing. I was with the circus for 5 years and this is a cheap tent show. The “country buffet tent” started becoming more common and it wasn’t worth being on tour anymore because the cheap tent set up is hard to cope with as a performer. These tents look appropriate for a big BBQ or a pie-eating contest. Avian should probably consider Rocky Point, MX, Palm Springs, or Reno if this is the budget. __________________

01-28-2024, 11:35 AM	#38
Tasty1 Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South-America Posts: 8,939	I haven't been to Vegas in 12 years, last ones where Venetian and Playboy/Palms. It looks a little different now. But it doesn't seem to bother the visitors and companies. With the Award Show there where big lines of people waiting to get in. Looks like AVN and Internext is best held like now, in 1 building, less webmasters nowadays and the companies we promote are on the showfloor and hotelbar. Also was easy that the party's where in the same building. And people could go outside easily for a smoke out of the chaos of the showfloor. The biggest problems where the toilets! There where no toilets. You had to go outside, past the entrance for the first toilet. And than go back through security and entrance through the crowds. Or do it the Dutch way and piss against the wall somewhere. AVN will evaluate and look for all options. I heard Circa would be too small to host an Award. If it takes another 12 years before i return we might be back at the Venetian. Could be even an AIVN Show without real models __________________ everything is fake

01-29-2024, 11:33 AM	#48
Tasty1 Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South-America Posts: 8,939	I missed a lot of people i see now on the pictures. Cause i didn't knew they where there, or they didn't stop at the Internext seats / hotel bar. And some i didn't recognize immediately after all those years. Mr Pheer, not going to the show while he lives 20 minutes away? That is just stupid. __________________ everything is fake