Is it just me, or is adult real quiet lately?

[Huggles]

Is there anything poppin' off at the moment?

Remember back in the day when a program would add a new site, and for like a few months the sales were fucking nuts?

When Topbucks added Insane Cock Bros, I made so much money from like a single 1 minute clip of this blonde with her eyes bugging out of her head and looking so shocked, it was amazing.

GFY hasn't been skinned in so long, I'm so out of the loop. There seems to be no hype.

[Mr Pheer]

OnlyFans doesn't need to skin GFY.

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

OnlyFans doesn't need to skin GFY.

Is OF where it's at now, in terms of affiliate promotion? Or are cams still king atm?

[wankawonk]

Originally Posted by mopek1

Is OF where it's at now, in terms of affiliate promotion? Or are cams still king atm?

onlyfans doesnt even have affiliates, it has glorified pimps.

affiliates are promoting cams.

[The Porn Nerd]

May has been slow so far...

[datingmaster]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

May has been slow so far...

a bit yeah, it's tax month in most English speaking countries

[TheLegacy]

Affiliate programs seem to be holding their clients closer than ever and attempting to minimize costs by not producing as much it appears. You don't see much happening on GFY regarding new sites but what attention is given by magazines and webmaster articles always now seems to focus on the popular cam girls and OF producers. That an AI generated content along with the heavily restrictive and difficult tubes these days not much seems to be moving in the way of new stuff as we are use to.

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by Huggles

Remember back in the day when a program would add a new site, and for like a few months the sales were fucking nuts?

When Topbucks added Insane Cock Bros, I made so much money from like a single 1 minute clip of this blonde with her eyes bugging out of her head and looking so shocked, it was amazing.

GFY hasn't been skinned in so long, I'm so out of the loop. There seems to be no hype.

This era passed over ten years ago.

The biggest paysites of the 2010-2020 decade self-promoted on the big tubes who had already consolidated traffic from the affiliates.

Big sites/programs/studios still jump on trends and launch new sites and produce arguably higher quality content than ever, but don't have a need to post on GFY about it. The "launch a new site with a clever name and ten scenes" business model is gone, the biggest companies focus on premium brands now.

The biggest affiliates started their own companies, paysites, ad networks, cpa networks, or moved on to another industry.

Search google for the biggest porn terms and look at what the top 10-20 results are doing. That is basically the porn industry in a nutshell.

[sonofsam]

Adult is more or less dead save for a small percentage of webmasters.

What I don't understand is why webmasters are so scared to pivot. Competing over highly competitive keywords, to make a few thousand a month if they're lucky.

If they were to take their seo and marketing skills to a mainstream offline business, they would make so much more money with way less effort.

[trevesty]

What Fuzebox said... GFY has been largely irrelevant to a big part of the industry for almost a decade. Paysites, especially premium ones, can upload a few scenes of a new pay site to the huge tubes and hit up a couple tube affiliates with big (but not PH big) tube networks and get more traffic & joins that way than 100 GFY posts could ever dream of bringing.

The guys who recycle content or bought content shot in 2009 and put it on a tour today are usually just either whining on the boards, or I dunno, doing something I assume. Probably not making much money, though.

[Emil]

Adult started to die... This is the history according to ME

TGPs. People posted here and complained when someone did hotlink their pics.

MGPs. Bandwidth was still expensive, but galleries with about 10-20 seconds were submitted.

Then came the tubes. It really killed the adult industry when it concerned affiliates.

Of course some of us still make money but it's no were near the old days.

Traffic is king and the same network of tube sites get the biggest share of it.

[mechanicvirus]

Porn turned into a hyper-individualistic sales driver where being a "boss" and "rise and grind" dictates that no one will really talk about their tactics anymore. Plus what fuze said.

[King Mark]

If I was starting in adult today after a break, it wouldn't be as an affiliate.

Infact, I did just that a couple years ago and became the glorified OF pimp wanakawonk is talking about instead of going the affiliate route... Just helping a friend out and it turned very lucrative when scaled and the contracts tuned.

The industry is entirely different. With everything available for free, the money is in the social media star with an OF...

You affiliate dudes better hope this age verification thing takes off. That's the only thing that could bring y'all back from death.

[Tjeezers]

This industry is dying cause individuals do not have power
its us against the waves.

before I was in this business, I was in another area of work, and there team work and unification was the real force

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by mopek1

Is OF where it's at now, in terms of affiliate promotion? Or are cams still king atm?

Bro

Look into download offers, away from adult

[SkynetHosting]

in my bussiness a big part of legit customers are in adult sites, i dunno how much money they are making. But apparently it's still okay.

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

The "launch a new site with a clever name and ten scenes"

Porn was so fun and whacky back then... farthammer! The Casey Parker road trip... Dawson Miller, Insane Cock Bros, College Fuck Fest, Haze Her... so many crazy sites that sold like hotcakes...

My favourite of all, the site I made like $5,000 or something insane from a SINGLE Spermshack listing... Gorilla Gras!

Good posts in here.

[mechanicvirus]

Originally Posted by Huggles

Porn was so fun and whacky back then... farthammer! The Casey Parker road trip... Dawson Miller, Insane Cock Bros, College Fuck Fest, Haze Her... so many crazy sites that sold like hotcakes...

My favourite of all, the site I made like $5,000 or something insane from a SINGLE Spermshack listing... Gorilla Gras!

Good posts in here.

I'm still selling Dawson Miller which is insane! but yea i miss the early 2000's days of solo models just popping up left and right like onlyfans models do today.

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by mechanicvirus

I'm still selling Dawson Miller which is insane!

The rainbow stockings videos made soooooo much money... I don't even think she got naked in those videos!

[The Porn Nerd]

There is still money to be made, even with older content. But it's not like it was 10 or especially 20 years ago. So you need to adjust expectations somewhat these days.

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Bro

Look into download offers, away from adult

You mean download offers like Zango Toolbars? Amazon digital e-books or apps for people to install?

And what sort of platform do you use to get traffic? Blogs with content?

[Tjeezers]

I had to stop sending to more than 75% of the programs in the last 6 months.
Main reasons:

• No new Updates for years
• Links to white-label cam sites
• pages with broken images and not loading content
• Social media links on landers
• Domains expired
• popups and exits on landers with no aff code

I could make the list longer, but I rather spend time removing the sponsors who are too lazy to fix their stuff and/or keep it interesting so people would pay. I did notice a lot of difference with 10 years ago when some people here acted like a king, but are dead as fuck now, and never cared for affiliates to begin with.

[NoWhErE]

Originally Posted by mopek1

You mean download offers like Zango Toolbars? Amazon digital e-books or apps for people to install?

And what sort of platform do you use to get traffic? Blogs with content?

I’m guessing: spamming social media

[cordoba]

Originally Posted by Emil

Adult started to die... This is the history according to ME

TGPs. People posted here and complained when someone did hotlink their pics.

MGPs. Bandwidth was still expensive, but galleries with about 10-20 seconds were submitted.

Then came the tubes. It really killed the adult industry when it concerned affiliates.

Of course some of us still make money but it's no were near the old days.

Traffic is king and the same network of tube sites get the biggest share of it.

Niche blogs were still somewhat profitable for those who knew what they were doing with SEO and copywriting, but it seems Google has killed that off now too.

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by cordoba

Niche blogs were still somewhat profitable for those who knew what they were doing with SEO and copywriting, but it seems Google has killed that off now too.

Is Google just funneling everything to Xvideos, Xhamster, and Pornhub?

[$5 submissions]

Recent Google updates have been killing off lots of organic traffic

[Look Chang]

Porn site lovers are getting older and are less excited due to the saturation of the market. When I was 40yo, I liked looking at 25yo women posing naked. Now that I am over 60yo, I am saturated with boobs, asses and pussies depictions and I prefer visiting some Asian countries where you can smell and taste the real things.

[adultinnovation]

Originally Posted by Huggles

Remember back in the day when a program would add a new site, and for like a few months the sales were fucking nuts?

When Topbucks added Insane Cock Bros, I made so much money from like a single 1 minute clip of this blonde with her eyes bugging out of her head and looking so shocked, it was amazing.

wake me up when it's 1999 again

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

I’m guessing: spamming social media

oh look another dumbass that thinks he knows my business and like usual, is nowhere fucking close.

[Colmike9]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

oh look another dumbass that thinks he knows my business and like usual, is nowhere fucking close.

Guys like that are another reason why people don't talk as much on boards anymore..

[celandina]

It was, is, and always will be about a good fresh content. If you have that, you will NOT notice any decline. The only decline we have ever noted was early this year .... so it must be after Xmas lull ( said we) ,... or maybe it was a bad weather, or the last movie was not so good....

...and then we noticed here on GFY a thread about some assehole ripping whole sites content and sharing it. So we went looking, and to our horror we found our whole site shared on many sites like : spanbang, noodlemagazine and many others. All our movies just " click and play" ....so a panic stricken, we went searching for a "pirate destroyer" and we found one. In a little more then month they significantly cleaned up the pirates ( close to 700 take downs in one month ).....

.... and guess what, our business bounced back to normal level

That is of course only individual opinion, but it worked ! So adult is not dead or dying it is lacking fresh new content! And for Christ sake did you look lately at the quality of the models recently ? Did you see the "content schlepers" and their wares? Here at GFY? Where are all the gorgeous, Hungarian, Czech, Russian, Ukrainian babes?? Instead we get ugly tattooed, Botox and silicon enhanced shameless whores. NO class any more....Same goes for most Cam girls: Unattractive, bored all sticking this ugly pink vibrators into them.... WTF !

[Colmike9]

Another thing is that most people here aren't really in the adult industry, they're affiliate marketers. But, one problem is that when adult in general is going downhill for that individual, they hold onto the vertical like their life depends on it, when they should really be diversifying and testing out different verticals/products, follow high EPCs, maybe try out emails and CPAs, do AB testing, etc. It also isn't adult vs mainstream, it's a lot more complicated.
Know what I made a lot of my money on while I was in my prime in adult? Hookahs and bulk candy lol.. Now I'm just a scientist and I just moved into a nice new 3br house, because I left adult on auto-pilot long ago making only a couple k a month, it was time to leave.

[datingmaster]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

oh look another dumbass that thinks he knows my business and like usual, is nowhere fucking close.

Didn't you use to run ch@t b0ts in the past on some web chat that will remain nameless?

that might be why some think it still is your main traffic source.

[money biz]

Even Starbucks is struggling rn

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by datingmaster

Didn't you use to run ch@t b0ts in the past on some web chat that will remain nameless?

that might be why some think it still is your main traffic source.

It was YAHOO chat, MSN chat and AOL chat. Why try to be sneaky about it?

Yahoo chat was the last and they discontinued it in 2011 and I went mostly mainstream on everything and have been that way since. You fuckers are 13 years behind the curve.

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Yahoo chat was the last and they discontinued it in 2011 and I went mostly mainstream on everything and have been that way since. You fuckers are 13 years behind the curve.

Mainstream is HUGE. What direction would you suggest to promote download offers?

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by mopek1

Mainstream is HUGE. What direction would you suggest to promote download offers?

I do not talk about my mainstream business here.

Mark Osterholt has been stalking me for 27 years and he has recently verified that he can't find shit on what I'm doing so all the planning I did back then was not in vain and I will keep it that way.

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

I do not talk about my mainstream business here.

Mark Osterholt has been stalking me for 27 years and he has recently verified that he can't find shit on what I'm doing so all the planning I did back then was not in vain and I will keep it that way.

Understood. I guess I was asking for more of a general direction. Or if you had any advice for us who want to try mainstream, in terms of where you thought would be a great place to get traffic and then monetize it. Not necessarily your business, but just your pov in mainstream.

I read the journey threads over at that other forum and many describe their authority site builds in detail. But even they now are saying those types of sites are not as lucrative because of all the "G" updates, and that blogging isn't what it used to be.

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Mark Osterholt has been stalking me for 27 years

How is this possible...

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by mopek1

Understood. I guess I was asking for more of a general direction. Or if you had any advice for us who want to try mainstream, in terms of where you thought would be a great place to get traffic and then monetize it. Not necessarily your business, but just your pov in mainstream.

I read the journey threads over at that other forum and many describe their authority site builds in detail. But even they now are saying those types of sites are not as lucrative because of all the "G" updates, and that blogging isn't what it used to be.

From my research "mainstream" traffic basically comes from these sources:

Search (Google, Yahoo)
Social Media (mostly YouTube, instagram, X and TikTok but others too like Snapchat, Twitch, etc.)
Reddit
Blog posts
News outlets (including ones like movie review sites, trend trackers, etc)
Paid Spots (mostly Adsense but other targeted sites)

Sadly I do not know of a Traffic Junky, Exoclick et al source for mainstream.

[datingmaster]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

It was YAHOO chat, MSN chat and AOL chat. Why try to be sneaky about it?

Yahoo chat was the last and they discontinued it in 2011 and I went mostly mainstream on everything and have been that way since. You fuckers are 13 years behind the curve.

Not trying to be sneaky couldn't remember the exact platforms...

Also, why are you calling me a fucker?... Be best

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by datingmaster

Also, why are you calling me a fucker?

Haha this is GFY bitch, not Facecrack... expect to be told to GFY!

[datingmaster]

Originally Posted by Huggles

Haha this is GFY bitch, not Facecrack... expect to be told to GFY!

How rude for A Canadian.

Well, it is to be expected. Two faced passive aggressive would be Americans with no second amendments and pathetic health care. How's that for an offer to have intercourse with yourself?

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by datingmaster

Two faced passive aggressive would be Americans with no second amendments and pathetic health care.

[machinegunkelly]

Originally Posted by datingmaster

How rude for A Canadian

'Fucker' Might be more uniquely Canadian slang than you'd think, we use it often for everyone we encounter.. or at least I do.

"whats up? fucker" is a common greeting here.

[INever]

Originally Posted by sonofsam

Adult is more or less dead save for a small percentage of webmasters.

What I don't understand is why webmasters are so scared to pivot. Competing over highly competitive keywords, to make a few thousand a month if they're lucky.

If they were to take their seo and marketing skills to a mainstream offline business, they would make so much more money with way less effort.

Pivot yes. See sig.

[emmasexytime]

There is lots of money in onlyfans
https://nichepornsites.com/list-of-a...s-on-onlyfans/

[Retiree]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Sadly I do not know of a Traffic Junky, Exoclick et al source for mainstream.

Buysellads.com is a good one and a few others similar to that one, where you can buy millions of views on big websites/projects.

[Mr Pheer]

Kind of funny getting offended over "fucker" - especially after throwing a side-eyed jab over running chat bots 13 years ago. I'm former military and could have said something extremely foul

I thought I was being polite

[NoWhErE]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Kind of funny getting offended over "fucker" - especially after throwing a side-eyed jab over running chat bots 13 years ago. I'm former military and could have said something extremely foul

I thought I was being polite

You seem to be really defensive about my guess. Afaik, you used to spam, so I made an educated guess.

Judging by your over the top reaction, I hit a nerve