The smart money left years ago

[12clicks]

Congratulations to you who didn’t listen to that BS.
There used to be a pimple on the ass of this business who went by the name of Serge who claimed back in like 2000 that the smart money got out of this business. I’ve literally made high tens of millions of dollars since then.
Hit me up if you want to make money.
I’ve been here since 1998. There are pretenders and then there’s me.

[BaldBastard]

Yeah but.. Serge was referring to making tens of millions a year and not in 25 and being able to do that with virtually zero IT skills.

Bitcoin, Cams, AI every new area has its "Serges" of the industry.

Get in early, monetarise fast.

[WiredGuy]

Wow, blast from the past, welcome back
WG

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

There are pretenders and then there’s me.

Are you throwing down the gauntlet to the Apree Team ??

[Farang]

hit you up on icq? hehe

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by Farang

hit you up on icq? hehe

[Squishy]

Long time! I wonder what happened to my sig...it had your programs in it for years.

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

There used to be a pimple on the ass of this business who went by the name of Serge who claimed back in like 2000 that the smart money got out of this business.

2001-2016 porn funded me to live my best life... 2020-2025 porn saved my life multiple times by having affiliate payments come in at the most CLUTCH moments in life!

Long live porn!

[fuzebox]

I've been legitimately trying to figure out if I should dig my heels in and keep operating in the hostile landscape this year, or move on to greener pastures.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by BaldBastard

Yeah but.. Serge was referring to making tens of millions a year and not in 25 and being able to do that with virtually zero IT skills.

Bitcoin, Cams, AI every new area has its "Serges" of the industry.

Get in early, monetarise fast.

Yeah, except he didn’t……..

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

I've been legitimately trying to figure out if I should dig my heels in and keep operating in the hostile landscape this year, or move on to greener pastures.

Don’t let my drunk posting influence you one way or the other. 😂

[Killswitch]

back in the day it was still great, but the industry is an absolute shitshow of people fucking over others for their own gains.

I'd rather fuck an angry red ant hill.

[AmeliaG]

Kinda funny, I remember you had to explain to me who Serge was re: your nick, and that was approximately a zillion years ago.

[Dugmor]

[QUOTE=AmeliaG;23337502]Kinda funny, I remember you had to explain to me who Serge was re: your nick, and that was approximately a zillion years ago./QUOTE]

From what I vaguely remember is we were on the Oprano board and we agreed to all trade traffic... 12Clicks was complaining no one was sending enough traffic, and Alex "Raw Like Sushi ) pulled up his stats, and he sent a total of 12 clicks.

[Retiree]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

Congratulations to you who didn’t listen to that BS.
There used to be a pimple on the ass of this business who went by the name of Serge who claimed back in like 2000 that the smart money got out of this business. I’ve literally made high tens of millions of dollars since then.
Hit me up if you want to make money.
I’ve been here since 1998. There are pretenders and then there’s me.

I used to sell x-sales to you, good times.

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

Congratulations to you who didn’t listen to that BS.
There used to be a pimple on the ass of this business who went by the name of Serge who claimed back in like 2000 that the smart money got out of this business. I’ve literally made high tens of millions of dollars since then.
Hit me up if you want to make money.
I’ve been here since 1998. There are pretenders and then there’s me.

Wow man! I just pop in now and then.... When was the last time you made a post here?


.

[sonofsam]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

I've been legitimately trying to figure out if I should dig my heels in and keep operating in the hostile landscape this year, or move on to greener pastures.

There is so much money to be made in mainstream, and then when it comes time to sell everything you'll get a way higher multiple for whatever business you've built up.

Despite what 12-prechecked-crosssales says, the money is just not there anymore in adult. That's not to say you can't make money in adult, because a good salesman can make money in any industry and economy. What I'm saying is the effort/reward is much greater in mainstream.


also lol at the the flex, disguised as looking to do business

"Hey guys I'm looking to work with new people... hit me up. btw I made tens of millions of dollars"

[12clicks]

[QUOTE=Dugmor;23337511]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Kinda funny, I remember you had to explain to me who Serge was re: your nick, and that was approximately a zillion years ago./QUOTE]

From what I vaguely remember is we were on the Oprano board and we agreed to all trade traffic... 12Clicks was complaining no one was sending enough traffic, and Alex "Raw Like Sushi ) pulled up his stats, and he sent a total of 12 clicks.

not quite.
When I first started sending traffic to serge, he made fun of me by saying I could only send 12 clicks a day.

good times.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by sonofsam

There is so much money to be made in mainstream, and then when it comes time to sell everything you'll get a way higher multiple for whatever business you've built up.

Despite what 12-prechecked-crosssales says, the money is just not there anymore in adult. That's not to say you can't make money in adult, because a good salesman can make money in any industry and economy. What I'm saying is the effort/reward is much greater in mainstream.


also lol at the the flex, disguised as looking to do business

"Hey guys I'm looking to work with new people... hit me up. btw I made tens of millions of dollars"

yeah, I'm not actually looking for business here.

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

not quite.
When I first started sending traffic to serge, he made fun of me by saying I could only send 12 clicks a day.

good times.

I remembered.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

I remembered.

you going to ASW?

[NatalieK]

you have to work for your money, like any business...

yes, before 2010, porn money was easy, but now, like any money, you work for it and you earn it

[awesome]

Originally Posted by NatalieK

you have to work for your money, like any business...

yes, before 2010, porn money was easy, but now, like any money, you work for it and you earn it

in 2010 people were crying that things are hard, and in 2000 it was easy.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

Congratulations to you who didn’t listen to that BS.
There used to be a pimple on the ass of this business who went by the name of Serge who claimed back in like 2000 that the smart money got out of this business. I’ve literally made high tens of millions of dollars since then.
Hit me up if you want to make money.
I’ve been here since 1998. There are pretenders and then there’s me.

Hey brother! Long time!

[Manfap]

Originally Posted by awesome

in 2010 people were crying that things are hard, and in 2000 it was easy.

In 2000 people were telling you the $$ had already been made and it was over.

[OldJeff]

Originally Posted by Farang

hit you up on icq? hehe

Now that is not fair.......

I always reach him on Skype

[Jman]

Hey Ron, how you been?

[adultinnovation]

cope....

[12clicks]

look at all the old heads that showed up. Hello, my peeps. ;)

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

look at all the old heads that showed up. Hello, my peeps. ;)

:

[OldJeff]

I forgot, I will pay you more than Ron does for your sales

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

you going to ASW?

I'm like 50/50 on the Creator thing which is colocated, influencers making me more dough these days than affiliates. Would love to grab dinner if you have schedule available then. I'm still the same number to text. I'll message you.

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

look at all the old heads that showed up. Hello, my peeps. ;)

The action on GFY is in the shadows nowadays . . .

[Nicky]

Ah, I found the old timers thread, zup?

[EXT]

Been in the game since the late 90s and there’s still a lot of money to be made.

[DoubleDreams]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

The action on GFY is in the shadows nowadays . . .

life's better in the shade anyways

[Killswitch]

Originally Posted by Nicky

Ah, I found the old timers thread, zup?

[Huggles]

I'm wheelin' and dealin' behind the scenes to try and make the best compilations for program owners. What makes a compilation something that has long term sticking power, like a true tribute to that niche in a video? I see compilations of porn as highlight reels of what makes a category a thing. What program produces the content that really showcases "X" category? For the longest time, I think there were certain brands that dominated.

Who is dominating in 2025 with the best content? I hope to deliver compilations that showcase the best of the best content. I hope to make money with programs by showing that they are THE KING of "X" niche.

That's what I want to bring to the table in 2025 adult.

[Nicky]

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Old

[Killswitch]

Originally Posted by Nicky

Old

[shimmy2]

best smart money solution is to leave america

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by shimmy2

best smart money solution is to leave america

How much cash are you saving this way?

[shimmy2]

Originally Posted by Huggles

How much cash are you saving this way?

well i own 3 condos here in asia, and rent out 2 of them... versus paying 2800mo rent in vegas for a little box apartment i'll never own. you can save quite a bit of money by avoiding rent, car insurance, and other mandatory stuff usa requires. im far from wealthy rich or even middle class, but above water here floating versus treading upstream in the states. you know the old saying if you cant take the heat get outta the kitchen, well i dipped before the smoke alarm went off. will only return to work some series updates then head right back where life is easier

[GAMEFINEST]

are you in Dr?

[cordoba]

Originally Posted by awesome

in 2010 people were crying that things are hard, and in 2000 it was easy.

I remember when I started around 2005, I put up a Wordpress blog with a half-decent domain, asked a high-traffic site in the same niche for a link exchange, they gave it to me, and within 24 hours of launching the blog I had my first sale.

At least for me, it was TOO easy to make money back then. If I had worked as hard and as intelligently back then as I have for the last five years, I would have been able to retire long ago.

People who are saying now that it's over for the industry, when porn is about to go through its biggest transformation since the invention of photography, are pretty short-sighted.

However, nobody knows what is going to happen. The backlash against porn is just getting started really. Don't think for a moment it ends with age verification rules when in another five years it will be possible to create any video fantasy possible in photorealistic HD with a few prompts.

[Forest]

You got that right…

How’s it going Ron?

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by Forest

You got that right…

How’s it going Ron?

It goes well. Getting older by the day.