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|  08-07-2025, 06:08 AM | #1 | 
| God Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto 
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				Google Analytics
			 Do you still use Google Analytics? And do you use it at the same you degree you did before GA4? IMHO GA4 sucks. And too many people use blockers so I cannot get accurate data anyways. | 
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|  08-07-2025, 06:10 AM | #2 | 
| one sick puppy Industry Role:  Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Where the worst of the West meets the worst of the East 
					Posts: 11,600
				 | switched to matomo. | 
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|  08-07-2025, 06:56 AM | #3 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Jun 2025 Location: Your moms pussy 
					Posts: 86
				 | I run Umami on my own server, and it also shows visitors who use ad blockers since it's a reverse proxy | 
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|  08-07-2025, 07:56 AM | #4 | 
| Web & App Development Industry Role:  Join Date: Oct 2023 Location: United States 
					Posts: 212
				 | I use a combination of both GA4 and Matomo. Google Analytics paired with Search Console gives you insights into Google searches. Matomo gives you a better API for tracking and getting around blockers. 
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|  08-10-2025, 03:02 AM | #6 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Midwest 
					Posts: 3,809
				 | GA4 is pretty powerful, IMO, if you take the time to learn - like with most things.  I use Matomo & GA4 about 50/50, though, with a few running Ahrefs. GA4 for money sites. Ahrefs' offering isn't bad either. | 
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|  08-10-2025, 07:50 AM | #7 | |
| Natalie K Industry Role:  Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Spain 
					Posts: 19,588
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 https://umami.is/ is this your company? 
				__________________ My official site  Custom vids  Make money & get into the business  First time girls Skype: GspotProductions - "Converting traffic into income since 2005" | |
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|  08-12-2025, 12:58 AM | #8 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Nov 2016 
					Posts: 173
				 | Matomo, Plausible, Fathom, and Heap | 
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