does anyone remember the meteor...

[iroc409]

i dunno, this happened like 3 years ago. i remember, it was like morning sometime. i was standing out in front of the house on the farm, and i hear this really crazy BOOM. never heard anything quite like it, really. wasn't the usual gunshots or anything. anyways, i guess it was a meteor that struck the earth. can't remember where it hit tho... man that was crazy shit tho.

[Roald]

Are you talking about the one wich caused the death of all dinos? Cause I can't seem to remeber that one

[iroc409]

no, no, this was a much smaller one. around 3 years ago, not 3 million.

i dunno, maybe it didn't hit, it broke up strange in the atmosphere. anyways, it made a hell of a lot of racket.

[Mr.Fiction]

[Roald]

Originally posted by iroc409
no, no, this was a much smaller one. around 3 years ago, not 3 million.

i dunno, maybe it didn't hit, it broke up strange in the atmosphere. anyways, it made a hell of a lot of racket.

Haha well I can't remember anything about that one too

[cluck]

Hale Bopp was awesome, I used to go to that Heavens Gate site all the time.

[iroc409]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

that looks like it would hurt...

[KRL]

The end of civilization as we know will be from this event one day.



K/T Impact: 65 million years ago

In the blink of an eye an Asteroid from space measuring 10 to 20 kilometers (6 to 12 miles) in diameter struck the Yucatan Peninsula. The K/T impact, as it is now referred to, resulted in 100 million megatons of energy to be released in dust, water vapour, fire, shock waves, sound, and tidal waves as well as excavating a crater over 200 kilometres across.

93% of marine reptiles and 56% of land-based reptiles became extinct, however, non-avian (non-bird) dinosaurs and pterosaurs had 100% extinction from this event.

On land nothing bigger than 25 Kilograms survived. Survivors included; Snakes, Small Lizards, Crocodiles, Turtles, Salamanders, Frogs, Mammals and Birds.

Tunguska Impact Event: 1908
In 1908 in a remote region of western Siberia known as Tunguska, an object about 60 meters in diameter completely disintegrated before hitting the ground releasing an estimated energy of 15 megatons. It broke windows and knocked people to the ground 37 miles (60 kilometers) away in the sparsely populated area. A fiery cloud was seen up to a distance of 300 miles (500 kilometers), where witnesses reported hearing "deafening bangs." All the trees were flattened in an area 50 kilometers across. The sound of the explosion was heard over 5000 kilometers away in London.

1908 Tunguska Impact= 15 megatons: Deafening bangs 500 Kilometers away

K/T Impact = 100,000,000 Megatons: Sound?

Computers have run the K/T impact scenario many times for debris, fire, tidal wave calculations, however, little is mentioned about the sound of this event.

Hyper-Sound

Given that injury to the inner ear can result in vertigo and loss of balance within mammals, were dinosaurs balance mechanisms shattered from the hyper-sound produced by the K/T Impact that traveled all over the globe? Sound causing deafness may not account for the extreme extinction among dinosaurs. Damaging the semicircular canals of the inner ears may cause balance problems for all dinosaurs, which may eliminate or deter the ability to stand, walk, run, swim, or mate.

Lets review what survived on land after the K/T Impact; small lizards, snakes, crocodiles, turtles, Frogs, Salamanders, Mammals and Birds, all under 25 KG.

These animals and reptiles that survived have a common trait, all have a low center of gravity, if balance is lost, they would still be able to move on the ground and forage for food, mating may be slightly more difficult but again a low center of gravity would be beneficial in reptiles and amphibians that lost their balance.

While mammals may also fall into this category with a low center of gravity the same may not apply to all the bird species that survived the K/T impact event. There are specific differences between Dinosaur ears, Mammal ears and Bird ears, although birds and mammals share many characteristics of the ear, the Dinosaur ears may have been much more susceptible to damage from the K/T impact sound, while the differences of mammals and birds or bird like dinosaurs may have allowed them to cope with the damage.

Sound travels much better in water, with far less dissipation than sound in air. This would explain the ocean dwelling dinosaurs demise as balance within water becomes more difficult with an up and down to deal with (x-y-z axix; Length-Width-Depth) and may also account for the high percentage (93%) of marine reptiles that went extinct. Increased water pressure from the impact may also have had a similar effect on balance mechanisms.

Fish may have also sustained damage to the ears that would have wiped out most except for bottom dwellers.

Hyper-Pressure
I also wonder if the immediate air pressure increase of the large 10-20 km diameter asteroid entering the atmosphere within one second immediately changed the global air pressure shattering the balance mechanisms of dinosaurs, reptiles, fish, birds, amphibians and mammals. Could the elasticity of the atmosphere cope with this immediate increase of a solid mass?

This solid mass, within a couple of seconds, crashed into the crust and ejected many times more volume than the initial 10-20 km object back into the atmosphere. Again the resulting increase of volume within the atmosphere increases the pressure. The resulting quick changes in pressure and/or the associated hyper-sound may have destroyed the inner ear of all creatures alive at the time. Or these events only destroyed the more fragile inner ears or balance mechanisms of all creatures except for mammals and birds, which had developed differences within the ear to cope with the changes or damage to the ear.

Super Quakes
Revelation 16:18 (NKJV) ?and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

If we take the Bible literally, this passage seems to indicate that there were greater earthquakes prior to humans. The K/T impact would have resulted in Global earthquakes with ground waves 10 meters high. This would have been somewhere between 10 and 12.8 on the Richter scale. Each increase of one on the scale is an order of magnitude greater or ten times as powerful. 20 minutes after the K/T impact, an earthquake began on the opposite side of the planet, triggered by the impact, that lasted for one hour.

The dinosaurs high center of gravity would also be a detriment in earthquakes of this magnitude, possibly breaking the legs of those dinosaurs that could not lay down, causing some of the other giants of this dinosaur era to fall over, unable to get up after the earthquakes. Although the damage to dinosaur species from earthquakes of this magnitude may be extensive, many of the dinosaurs should have been able to get up again, leading me to believe that the balance organs had been damaged beyond repair from the initial sound and/or pressure of the K/T impact.

Many theories about the mass extinction involved with the K/T event have a number of holes. It is now been determined by one group of scientist that computer models of the K/T impact conclude that the resulting dust in the atmosphere doesn?t amount to enough to stop photosynthesis, which was initially the leading theory for the mass extinction. How do you account for a complete extinction of all dinosaurs while a number of non-dinosaur species under 25kg survived? The fact that mammals came through relatively unscathed, that other creatures such as turtles, snakes, crocodiles, small lizards, frogs and salamanders survived has never been adequately explained with past theories.

New Theory, Fewer Holes

This theory that the K/T Impact Hyper-Sound and/or Hyper-Pressure changes destroying the ability for creatures to balance, explains why low profile, low center of gravity creatures were able to cope, continue through that generation where the damage had been done and mating within those creatures could still be accomplished even with damage to the balance system so only these creatures could continue to the next generation after the impact.

To confirm this theory, I expect supercomputers will have to look at the K/T impact event and calculate the pressure and sound associated with the event and then work with biologists, palaeontologists, and other specialists? to determine if loss of equilibrium could have been the cause for the dinosaur extinction.

Had a similar impact event occurred 100,000 years ago, it is doubtful if early man could have survived the loss of balance for one whole generation.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Yup shit like this is very real and a total present danger.
Ignorant humans rather kill one another than rage against the forces of nature that threaten our race.

There is no way to know when, or where a comet will hit us, but the odd's are against us that at some point in time maybe even tomarrow it could happen.

Such is life I guess, but in the long run...

Mankind aint gonna make it.

Might a mention a tune froom TOOL

hehehe
Fuck all your prozac and fuck your tatoo's...

[404]

i was hurlting along a deserted freeway late one night and got my windscreen fucked (but not penetrated) by something about the size of a pebble hitting it. it was the middle of nowhere, no homes or other cars for miles. someone later told me it might have been a tiny chunk of a meteorite. either that or the man was trying to kill me.

[bhutocracy]

Originally posted by KRL

Super Quakes
Revelation 16:18 (NKJV) ?and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

If we take the Bible literally,

had me until here.

LOL "if we take the bible literally" stupid fucktards.

[skazzel]

Originally posted by KRL
The end of civilization as we know will be from this event one day.

Forget all of this inner-ear dinosaurs falling from earthquake shit man. An impact the size of the suspected KT impact would have created a huge dust cloud in the atmosphere that could have lasted months. That means very little sunlight, which would devastate food supplies throughout the entire food chain. Huge animals (like the dinosaurs) simply would not have been able to obtain enough food to survive.

A lot of the smaller reptiles, even crocs / gators made it because they use very little energy. It is a little puzzling how cold-blooded reptiles could have survived since they require external heat sources (ie - the sun) to maintain their body temperature, but given the huge amount of energy created by the impact (since the impact was at least partially in the ocean, it would have vaporized millions of gallons of water - the earth would be like a sauna; perfect for reptiles), the earth probably remained quite warm despite all of the debris blocking the sunlight.

It is a sad event really, even though it happened before humans were around. If it weren't for the KT impact we would have dinosaurs in zoos and shit today. Imagine going to a zoo and watching a T-Rex or some velociraptors. Fucking awesome. Though ancient humans might not have fared so well as dino-food.

It's even possible that the extinction of large reptillian predators allowed mammals to evolve into more intelligent species. Post KT, the only land based predators that could kill and eat a human would be large cats, some bears and crocs / gators. This makes things a lot easier on mammals compared to having to deal with all kinds of nasty dinosaurs.

Humans would survive a KT-sized impact if it happened today, but society as we know it would cease to exist. Just in the past ten years we've had a few large asteroids come dangerously close to the earth. It is not a question of "if" but "when". We are in a race against the clock and we don't even know when our time is going to be up.

[KRL]

The odds are currently 1 in 1000 within this century of an asteroid strike of some significance.

That's fairly safe odds and the earth being 3/4ths water it will most likely hit the ocean, but I wouldn't want to be near the strike point even if its a little guy.

[eroswebmaster]

If you ever get a chance to visit the meteor site in Arizona do so.

Man that thing is fucking huge!

[KRL]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
If you ever get a chance to visit the meteor site in Arizona do so.

Man that thing is fucking huge!

Fuck Yeh it is.






http://www.meteorcrater.com/bgboomm.avi


If that fucker hit a major metropolitan area or right along the ocean near a major coastal city that would be some nasty scenes.

[KRL]

Known North American meteor crater hits.



# Name, location N.Lat. W.Long. Diam (km) Age (Myr) Age Error Surface Expression Visible Geologic Features

1 Ames, Oklohoma 36 15 98 12 16 470 30 buried 3 km none

2 Avak, Alaska 71 15 156 38 12 100 5 buried 30 m none

3 Barringer (Meteor) Crater, Arizona, alt 35 02 111 01
1.2 .049 .003 rimmed polygonal crater fragments of meteorite, highly shocked sandstone

4 Beaverhead, Montana 46 05 113 00 60 600 ? oval area of crushed sandstones, and shatter cones shatter cones

5 Brent, Ontario 46 05 78 29 3.8 450 30 sediment-filled shallow depression fracturing

6 Calvin, Michigan 41 50 85 57 8.5 450 10 buried 400 m none

7 Carswell, Saskatchewan 58 27 109 30 39 115 10 discontinuous circular ridge shatter cones, breccia, impact melt

8 Charlevoix, Quebec 47 32 70 18 54 357 15 semi-circular trough, central peak breccia, shatter cones, impact melt

9 Chesapeake Bay, Virginia 37 17 76 01 85 35.5 0.6 buried 400-500 m, ring structure none

10 Chicxulub, Mexico, alt 21 20 89 30 180 64.98 0.05 buried 1 km, ring of sink holes none, associated with K/T mass extinction

11 Clearwater East, Quebec 56 05 74 07 26 290 20 circular lake sedimentay float

12 Clearwater West, Quebec 56 13 74 30 36 290 20 island ring in circular lake impact melt, breccias

13 Couture, Quebec 60 08 75 20 8 430 25 circular lake breccia float

14 Crooked Creek, Missouri 37 50 91 23 7 320 80 oval area of disturbed rocks, shallow marginal depression

15 Decatureville, Missouri 37 54 92 43 6 300 or less slight oval depression breccia, shatter cones

16 Deep Bay, Saskatchewan 56 24 102 59 13 100 50 circular bay sedimentary float

17 Des Plaines, Illinois 42 03 87 52 8 280 or less buried 15-100 m none

18 Eagle Butte, Alberta 49 42 110 30 10 65 or less minor structural disturbance shatter cones

19 Flynn Creek, Tennessee 36 17 85 40 3.8 360 20 sediment-filled shallow depression with small central peak breccia, shatter cones

20 Glasford, Illinois 40 36 89 47 4 430 or less buried 350 m none

21 Glover Bluff, Wisconsin 43 58 89 32 8 500 or less disturbed dolomite exposed in three quarries shatter cones

22 Gow, Saskatchewan 56 27 104 29 5 250 or less lake and central island breccia, impact melt

23 Haughton, N.W. Territories 75 22 89 41 24 23.4 1.0 shallow circular depression shatter cones, breccia

24 Haviland, Kansas 37 35 99 10 0.015 0.001 or less excavated depression fragments of meteorite

25 Holleford, Ontario 44 28 76 38 2.4 550 100 sediment-filled shallow depression sedimentary fill

26 Ile Rouleau, Quebec 50 41 73 53 4 300 or less island is central peak of submerged structure shatter cones, breccia dykes

27 Kentland, Indiana 40 45 87 24 13 97 or less central peak exposed in quarries, rest buried breccia, shatter cones, disturbed rocks

28 La Moinerie, Quebec 57 26 66 37 8 400 50 lake-filled depression breccia float

29 Manicouagan, Quebec 51 23 68 42 100 214 1 circumferential lake, central peak impact melt, breccia

30 Manson, Iowa, alt, info 42 35 94 33 35 73.8 0.3 none, central elevation buried 30 m none

31 Marquez Texas 31 17 96 18 12.7 58 2 circular area of disturbed rock shatter cones

32 Middlesboro, Kentucky 36 37 83 44 6 300 or less circular depression disturbed rocks

33 Mistastin, Laborador 55 53 63 18 28 38 4 elliptical lake and central island breccia, impact melt

34 Montagnais, Nova Scotia 42 53 64 13 45 50.5 0.8 none, under water 115 m and sediments none

35 New Quebec, Quebec, alt 61 17 73 40 3.4 1.4 0.1 rimmed, circular lake raised rim, impact melt

36 Newporte, North Dakota 48 58 101 58 3 500 or less none, buried 3 km none

37 Nicholson, N.W. Territories 62 40 102 41 12.5 400 or less irregular lake with islands breccia

38 Odessa, Texas 31 45 102 29 0.17 0.05 or less sediment-filled depression with very slight rim, 4 others buried and smaller meteorite fragments

39 Pilot, N.W. Territories 60 17 111 01 6 445 2 circular lake fracturing, breccia float

40 Presqu'ile, Quebec 49 43 74 48 24 500 or less none, heavily eroded shatter cones

41 Red Wing, North Dakota 47 36 103 33 9 200 25 none, buried 1.5 km none

42 St. Martin, Manitoba 51 47 98 32 40 220 32 none, partially buried impact melt

43 Serpent Mound, Ohio 39 02 83 24 8 320 or less circular area of disturbed rock, slight central peak breccia, shatter cones

44 Sierra Madera, Texas 30 36 102 55 13 100 or less central hills, annular depression, outer ring of hills breccia, shatter cones

45 Slate Islands, Ontario 48 40 87 00 30 450 ? islands are central peak of submerged structure shatter cones, breccia dyke

46 Steen River, Alberta 59 30 117 38 25 95 7 none, buried 200 m none

47 Sudbury, Ontario 46 36 81 11 250 1850 3 deformed elliptical basin breccia, impact melt, shatter cones, breccia dyke

48 Upheaval Dome, Utah 38 26 109 54 10 65 or less circular area of disturbed rock breccia dykes

49 Wanapitei, Ontario 46 45 80 45 7.5 37 2 lake-filled, depression breccia float

50 Wells Creek, Tennessee 36 23 87 40 12 200 100 basin with central hill, inner and outer annular valleys, ridges breccia, shatter cones

51 West Hawk, Manitoba 49 46 95 11 2.4 100 50 circular lake none

[ADL Colin]

Originally posted by AlienQ
Yup shit like this is very real and a total present danger.
Ignorant humans rather kill one another than rage against the forces of nature that threaten our race.

We're practicing. Without global conflict we wouldn't have nuclear weapons and a head-start on the type of weapons we might collectively need some day ;-)

Competition, Mr. Smith.