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Stud Money · 10-04-2003, 02:12 PM

http://uk.gay.com/headlines/5148

A new study claims to prove that sexual orientation is decided before birth, being "hard-wired" into the human brain along with other key traits.

The report, a combination of work between the University of East London (UEL) and the Institute of Psychiatry, investigates sex differences in the startle response - the eye-blink reaction to sudden loud noises.

According to a release today, it found that there was a notable difference between homosexual and heterosexual subjects.

And because the startle response is an involuntary reaction, rather than a product of environmental conditioing, researchers claim it is a strong indication that sexual orientation is determined before birth.

They add that the report is the first to offer independent evidence of a "non-learned neurological basis for sexual orientation", with other report linking foetal development with testosterone levels being hotly contested.

Scientists used a technique known as prepulse inhibition (PPI), which measures the strength of response to loud noises.

Results showed clear differences between the groups, with lesbians showing a markedly stronger inhibition (a PPI of 33%) compared to straight women (just 13%).

Although the difference between heterosexual men and gay men is less extreme, 40% vs 32% respectively, researchers claim the difference is still significant.

"The startle response is pre-conscious and cannot be learned, " UEL's Dr Qazi Rahman explained.

"It is mediated by an ancient region of the brain called the limbic system which also controls sexual behaviour."

Dr Rahman added that the findings could have a large impact on the way sexuality is treated, both culturally and during health programmes.

"These findings may well affect the way we as a society deal with sexuality and the issues surrounding sexual orientation," he said.

"They may also have far-reaching health implications, offering clues as to why men and women, and gay men and lesbians, sometimes suffer from different types of mental health disorders.

"If we know that certain groups differ from each other in brain function or a biological marker then we are in a position to provide better treatments which are tailored to suit particular groups".

LadyMischief · 10-04-2003, 02:13 PM

Wouldn't really surprise me, since homosexuality isn't all that uncommon in nature either. It's not unknown for animals like wolves or other types of animals to have homosexual pairings. It's not COMMON, but it does happen. If it was "taught" thing, where would the animals learn it?

Stud Money · 10-04-2003, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief
If it was "taught" thing, where would the animals learn it?

Animal school? lol

Daymare · 10-04-2003, 02:14 PM

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Lane · 10-04-2003, 02:14 PM

there are anomalies in everything

Spunky · 10-04-2003, 02:14 PM

Homo

Adorno · 10-04-2003, 02:20 PM

Being a queen is not genetic.

<IMX> · 10-04-2003, 02:20 PM

Would that be a good thing?

If there was an ability to decifier whether a child had a non-standard genetic trait, how many parents might abort that fetus?

...

Adorno · 10-04-2003, 02:22 PM

"non-standard". The polite way of saying "defective".

Poo-Chee · 10-04-2003, 02:25 PM

nice to know

marcu5 · 10-04-2003, 02:34 PM

snipah7 · 10-04-2003, 02:39 PM

do you like beastiality before birth?

Centurion · 10-04-2003, 05:27 PM

So, if a car backfires when you're a fetus, you come out with the "Queer Eye"?

Interesting.
Start popping balloons around pregnant women and see what eventually happens!

Furious_Female · 10-04-2003, 07:57 PM

I always believed in what the study's findings concluded. I never believed being homosexual or heterosexual is a choice. It's been known by scientists for a long time that lesbians have higher levels of testosterone and gay men have higher levels of estrogen. And if you think back to grammar school and know who is gay as an adult... you realize those people were gay from an early age. I also don't think being homosexual is a birth defect... a human is a human. I didn't ask to be heterosexual anymore than someone asked to be gay. I hope more people realize it's genetic and not a choice, would reduce discrimination

OsirisID · 10-04-2003, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Centurion
So, if a car backfires when you're a fetus, you come out with the "Queer Eye"?

Interesting.
Start popping balloons around pregnant women and see what eventually happens!

Hahahaha!

Pad · 10-04-2003, 08:33 PM

here's another interesting fact; if you are a homosexual you are going to rot in hell for enternity you dirty faggots

bi chicks are a'ok!

Centurion · 10-04-2003, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furious_Female
I always believed in what the study's findings concluded. I never believed being homosexual or heterosexual is a choice. It's been known by scientists for a long time that lesbians have higher levels of testosterone and gay men have higher levels of estrogen. And if you think back to grammar school and know who is gay as an adult... you realize those people were gay from an early age. I also don't think being homosexual is a birth defect... a human is a human. I didn't ask to be heterosexual anymore than someone asked to be gay. I hope more people realize it's genetic and not a choice, would reduce discrimination

Umm..actually the point about gay men having more estrogen than straight men isn't true. Where did you get that from?

I agree with you it is a pre-disposition from birth (what causes it exactly I don't know). It is not a "choice" one makes.

LadyMischief · 10-04-2003, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pad
here's another interesting fact; if you are a homosexual you are going to rot in hell for enternity you dirty faggots

bi chicks are a'ok!

And you sir, are a hypocrite.

Centurion · 10-04-2003, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pad
here's another interesting fact; if you are a homosexual you are going to rot in hell for enternity you dirty faggots

bi chicks are a'ok!

Get this! If you were born STUPID..you'll ALWAYS be stupid.

Pad · 10-04-2003, 08:42 PM

big radical guy making fun of people behind computer screens, you're the coolest friendless & lifeless nerdy schmuck i know

JDog · 10-04-2003, 08:46 PM

That's a good fact! I was hardwired not to be gay!

jDoG

p3rsian · 10-04-2003, 08:55 PM

you are gay !

OsirisID · 10-04-2003, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pad
here's another interesting fact; if you are a homosexual you are going to rot in hell for enternity you dirty faggots

bi chicks are a'ok!

Only DOG fearing christians believe in that shit..

Resolute · 10-05-2003, 03:24 AM

Does it really matter !!!!

As long as you a Good Person !

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